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Arizona Looking to Dump Metric Signage on I-19

Started by Zonie, October 04, 2014, 08:00:59 PM

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kphoger

Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on August 02, 2025, 10:27:36 PMI was wondering why the word filter didn't get that, but apparently you have to leave out the space to get mezzanine.

I forgot there was even a filter.

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Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.


vdeane

Quote from: kphoger on August 02, 2025, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on August 02, 2025, 10:27:36 PMI was wondering why the word filter didn't get that, but apparently you have to leave out the space to get mezzanine.

I forgot there was even a filter.
Is it even still operational?  I remember at one point after a major forum downtime seeing a name I didn't recognize in the context of P13 where I would have expected Sault Saint John Madden.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

TheCatalyst31

Quote from: vdeane on August 02, 2025, 10:54:34 PM
Quote from: kphoger on August 02, 2025, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on August 02, 2025, 10:27:36 PMI was wondering why the word filter didn't get that, but apparently you have to leave out the space to get mezzanine.

I forgot there was even a filter.
Is it even still operational?  I remember at one point after a major forum downtime seeing a name I didn't recognize in the context of P13 where I would have expected Sault Saint John Madden.
It's still operational, because I didn't type mezzanine in my original post just to make sure it was still working. I don't know if the P13 filter is still around, but I also don't know the original name so I can't test that one out. The only other filter I remember is the hep cat one, and while I assume it's still working, the original word for that one is a racial slur so I'm not testing that.

hotdogPi

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Max Rockatansky

Sault Sainte John Madden

Nope, the famous P13 filter is still active.

vdeane

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 03, 2025, 09:53:32 AMSault Sainte John Madden

Nope, the famous P13 filter is still active.
Wish I remembered where the post I saw was, then.  It was very soon after the downtime that removed things like the like button - perhaps it was gone at the time and since came back.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

JKRhodes

I see historical value in preserving the metric signage, to illustrate how the conversion act of the 1970s ultimately won less than 100 miles out of a 50k mile system in efforts to align the USA  with the rest of the world.

The Ghostbuster

I understand Interstate 19 having metric signage and kilometer-based exit numbers, given that 19 nearly makes it to the Mexican border. Still, I would rather it had mileage-based distances and exit numbers (Highway 1 in Delaware, on the other hand, should not have kilometer-based exit numbers; nor should it have those goofy exit numbers that are neither mileage-based or kilometer-based).

vdeane

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on Today at 12:05:06 PMHighway 1 in Delaware, on the other hand, should not have kilometer-based exit numbers; nor should it have those goofy exit numbers that are neither mileage-based or kilometer-based
Indeed.  If a road wants to be metric, it should commit and have both distances and exit numbers in metric.  Using km-based exit numbers while all distances are in miles is about as useful for navigation and using sequential exit numbers.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

kphoger

Quote from: vdeane on Today at 12:46:28 PMIf a road wants to be metric, it should commit and have both distances and exit numbers in metric.  Using km-based exit numbers while all distances are in miles is about as useful for navigation and using sequential exit numbers.

Then there's Puerto Rico, with speed limits in miles/hour but distance signs in kilometers.  Easy math, right?  If you're driving 45 mph, and your destination is 45 km away, then it will take you exactly 37.26 minutes to reach your destination.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

vdeane

Quote from: kphoger on Today at 12:55:37 PM
Quote from: vdeane on Today at 12:46:28 PMIf a road wants to be metric, it should commit and have both distances and exit numbers in metric.  Using km-based exit numbers while all distances are in miles is about as useful for navigation and using sequential exit numbers.

Then there's Puerto Rico, with speed limits in miles/hour but distance signs in kilometers.  Easy math, right?  If you're driving 45 mph, and your destination is 45 km away, then it will take you exactly 37.26 minutes to reach your destination.
At least you can still say "I'm going to exit 42 and at km 62, so it's 20 km to go".  Of course, that might have somewhat reduced utility if their cars still have odometers in miles (which they probably do, since my car just has a single button to toggle between metric and US customary and can't change them separately), but that's still better than "I'm going to exit 142 (based on km) and am at mile 102, so I still have who the f*** can do that math in their head to go".
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

pderocco

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on Today at 12:05:06 PMI understand Interstate 19 having metric signage and kilometer-based exit numbers, given that 19 nearly makes it to the Mexican border.
Does Mexico have sixty miles of mile-based signage?

kphoger

Quote from: pderocco on Today at 04:01:04 PMDoes Mexico have sixty miles of mile-based signage?

No.

The closest I've seen are dual km/h & mph speed limit signs between the Colombia border bridge and highway 2.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.