Proposed Russian Road That Would Connect Britain to America

Started by Grzrd, March 24, 2015, 10:39:29 PM

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kphoger

#50
By the way, I'm really digging these long distances on highway signs.  For example, 1939 km to Irkutsk from Sokol.

Edited to add:  2012 km to Irkutsk

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.


JayhawkCO

I'm grumpy about the current US/Russia political climate. I had never gotten there in my travels and taking the Trans-Siberian railroad is one of my bucket list travel items. Driving some of these highways would also be a blast.

vdeane

I wonder if they'll get around to connecting Kamchatka by road while they're doing any of this.
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1995hoo

#53
Quote from: kphoger on September 04, 2025, 11:07:12 AMBy the way, I'm really digging these long distances on highway signs.  For example, 1939 km to Irkutsk from Sokol.

Edited to add:  2012 km to Irkutsk

3,177 km to Magadan, although it looks like the sign is no longer there.

Edited to add: And then there's this.

"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

kphoger

Fixed, because I'm an idiot and mistook Yakutsk for Irkutsk.

Quote from: kphoger on September 04, 2025, 11:07:12 AMBy the way, I'm really digging these long distances on highway signs.  For example, 1939 km to Yakutsk from Sokol.

Edited to add:  2012 km to Yakutsk

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 04, 2025, 11:21:06 AMI'm grumpy about the current US/Russia political climate. I had never gotten there in my travels and taking the Trans-Siberian railroad is one of my bucket list travel items. Driving some of these highways would also be a blast.

It would also be an oblast.

(Yes, I self quoted.)

Molandfreak

Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 04, 2025, 03:15:24 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 04, 2025, 11:21:06 AMI'm grumpy about the current US/Russia political climate. I had never gotten there in my travels and taking the Trans-Siberian railroad is one of my bucket list travel items. Driving some of these highways would also be a blast.

It would also be an oblast.

(Yes, I self quoted.)
Crossing the Bering Strait would be a Most satisfying trip.

Inclusive infrastructure advocate

kphoger

Quote from: JayhawkCO on September 04, 2025, 03:15:24 PMIt would also be an oblast.

Let's see, moving east from Lake Baikal...

Yep, Irkutsk is an oblast.
Nope, Buryatia is a republic, not an oblast.
Nope, Zabaykalsky is a krai, not an oblast.
Yep, Amur is an oblast.
Yep, the Jewish Autonomous Oblast is an oblast, go figure.
Nope, Khabarovsk is a krai, not an oblast.
Nope, Primorsky is a krai, not an oblast.

Moving farther north and east...

Nope, Sakha is a republic, not an oblast.
Yep, Magadan is an oblast.
Nope, Chukotka is an okrug, not an oblast.

And just in case a branch road makes it south from there...

Nope, Kamchatka is a krai, not an oblast.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

GaryV

Quote from: kphoger on September 04, 2025, 02:33:56 PMbecause I'm an idiot and mistook Yakutsk for Irkutsk.

Didn't you play enough Risk as a kid?

Molandfreak


Inclusive infrastructure advocate

Rothman

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 04, 2025, 01:47:02 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 04, 2025, 11:07:12 AMBy the way, I'm really digging these long distances on highway signs.  For example, 1939 km to Irkutsk from Sokol.

Edited to add:  2012 km to Irkutsk

3,177 km to Magadan, although it looks like the sign is no longer there.

Edited to add: And then there's this.



An oil field as a control city...some on this forum's heads would explode...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Road Hog

Quote from: kphoger on September 04, 2025, 11:07:12 AMBy the way, I'm really digging these long distances on highway signs.  For example, 1939 km to Irkutsk from Sokol.

Edited to add:  2012 km to Irkutsk
Yakutsk. I'm getting better at reading Cyrillic.

EDIT: Late to the party as usual.

kphoger

Quote from: 1995hoo on September 04, 2025, 01:47:02 PMAnd then there's this.



Quote from: Rothman on September 04, 2025, 06:02:15 PMAn oil field as a control city...some on this forum's heads would explode...

So, judging by the distances on the sign, it appears to be heading north out of Vitim, with the road to Peledui branching off up ahead.

And, for anyone interested, here is the oil field that's being used as a control city on a mileage sign.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

ElishaGOtis

I can drive 55 ONLY when it makes sense.

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kkt

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on September 02, 2025, 10:14:25 PMPretty much near zero percent chance this happens but its fun to think about Trump mentioned this project during some talking point he made in the Russia-Ukraine negotiations, which need not to be focused on to prevent this from getting political. I don't see this happening anytime soon but it would be cool if the conflict was solved and this project was a result of that. Just fun to think about.

He talks about a lot of projects that have zero percent chance of happening.

Bickendan


mgk920

Remember that Russian (former Soviet) railways are 100% incompatible with those of North America, western Europe, China and so forth.  That is an issue that will (someday) have to be addressed.

Mike

kkt

Quote from: mgk920 on October 19, 2025, 12:42:20 PMRemember that Russian (former Soviet) railways are 100% incompatible with those of North America, western Europe, China and so forth.  That is an issue that will (someday) have to be addressed.

Mike

It's an inconvenience but train cars can be designed to be moved from one set of wheels to another fairly efficiently.  Spain and Portugal have their own broad gauge, not the same as Russian gauge.  New high-speed tracks built in the last 20 years or so are using the same gauge as France so it's no longer necessary, but it only added a few minutes to the trip.

mgk920

Quote from: kkt on October 19, 2025, 06:55:54 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on October 19, 2025, 12:42:20 PMRemember that Russian (former Soviet) railways are 100% incompatible with those of North America, western Europe, China and so forth.  That is an issue that will (someday) have to be addressed.

Mike

It's an inconvenience but train cars can be designed to be moved from one set of wheels to another fairly efficiently.  Spain and Portugal have their own broad gauge, not the same as Russian gauge.  New high-speed tracks built in the last 20 years or so are using the same gauge as France so it's no longer necessary, but it only added a few minutes to the trip.


Also, the 'broad' track gauge on the Iberian Peninsula is sufficiently wide as to be able to easily create dual gauge tack by simply laying a third running rail, something that is not possible with Russian track.  The difference between Russian gauge and standard gauge is only 85 mm (a very insidious difference).  Russian couplers are completely different and incompatible with those of other places, too.  Also, Spain is sloooowly converting its broad gauge track to standard gauge.

Mike