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Started by NE2, September 18, 2025, 02:31:33 PM

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Quillz

Quote from: epzik8 on October 03, 2025, 12:39:02 PMIn more Maryland, I've never seen "Facility Name Safety, Headlight Use Required" signs like these in any other state, and I'm even having trouble finding examples of mandatory headlight use zones outside of Maryland in general.


California has several "daylight headlights zones." Perhaps most notably is nearly all of the Pearblossom Highway (CA-138), which was notorious for a lot of accidents.


architect77

Quote from: Flint1979 on October 04, 2025, 11:11:14 PMA Michigan left is a right turn, followed by a u-turn or a u-turn followed by a right turn. Basically you are making all right turns and then turn around if you want to make a left turn.

So if I'm going down Telegraph and want to make a left turn onto Schoolcraft I'd have to turn right on Schoolcraft and drive for about 1,000 or so feet and turn around in the median. Schoolcraft is the service drive for the Jeffries Freeway so it's a popular one used.

OK I got it. If you want to go left at an intersection you turn right and then make a u-turn wherever you want. There isn't a designated spot with a u turn lane.

In my mind I had always thought a Michigan Left meant you went straight through intersection then make a uturn in the center median to go back in the other direction and then made a right at the intersection.

Basically it's sort of an ad hoc solution. They don't provide for left turns and you just figure out how to do it any way you can.

Left turn phases are being eliminated from intersections more and more and it's a good thing, less waiting more green time.

GaryV

Quote from: architect77 on October 05, 2025, 11:21:02 AMOK I got it. If you want to go left at an intersection you turn right and then make a u-turn wherever you want. There isn't a designated spot with a u turn lane.
Absolutely not. You make a u turn in a designated crossover. You don't just barrel your way across the median.


thenetwork

Quote from: Flint1979 on October 04, 2025, 11:11:14 PMA Michigan left is a right turn, followed by a u-turn or a u-turn followed by a right turn. Basically you are making all right turns and then turn around if you want to make a left turn.

So if I'm going down Telegraph and want to make a left turn onto Schoolcraft I'd have to turn right on Schoolcraft and drive for about 1,000 or so feet and turn around in the median. Schoolcraft is the service drive for the Jeffries Freeway so it's a popular one used.

That's not what happens at that partucular intersection.  At Telegraph and Schoolcraft/I-96, you "exit" off Telegraph onto a short service drive.  You are allowed to turn left onto Schoolcraft from the Telegraph service road and vice-versa  because of all the US-24 and I-96 lanes above and below the service drives

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tshW2Ad2yrvEP7rv9?g_st=ac

architect77

Quote from: GaryV on October 05, 2025, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: architect77 on October 05, 2025, 11:21:02 AMOK I got it. If you want to go left at an intersection you turn right and then make a u-turn wherever you want. There isn't a designated spot with a u turn lane.
Absolutely not. You make a u turn in a designated crossover. You don't just barrel your way across the median.



Ok The link of the intersection I clicked on looked like there was a continuous center paved turning lane for the businesses along the road.

The next post shows a grade separated intersection which doesn't look like the first link with the sign with the diagram looking like a fish hook.

Scott5114

Quote from: architect77 on October 06, 2025, 01:58:31 AM
Quote from: GaryV on October 05, 2025, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: architect77 on October 05, 2025, 11:21:02 AMOK I got it. If you want to go left at an intersection you turn right and then make a u-turn wherever you want. There isn't a designated spot with a u turn lane.
Absolutely not. You make a u turn in a designated crossover. You don't just barrel your way across the median.



Ok The link of the intersection I clicked on looked like there was a continuous center paved turning lane for the businesses along the road.

The next post shows a grade separated intersection which doesn't look like the first link with the sign with the diagram looking like a fish hook.

What is my post, chopped liver?
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Flint1979

Quote from: thenetwork on October 05, 2025, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on October 04, 2025, 11:11:14 PMA Michigan left is a right turn, followed by a u-turn or a u-turn followed by a right turn. Basically you are making all right turns and then turn around if you want to make a left turn.

So if I'm going down Telegraph and want to make a left turn onto Schoolcraft I'd have to turn right on Schoolcraft and drive for about 1,000 or so feet and turn around in the median. Schoolcraft is the service drive for the Jeffries Freeway so it's a popular one used.

That's not what happens at that partucular intersection.  At Telegraph and Schoolcraft/I-96, you "exit" off Telegraph onto a short service drive.  You are allowed to turn left onto Schoolcraft from the Telegraph service road and vice-versa  because of all the US-24 and I-96 lanes above and below the service drives

https://maps.app.goo.gl/tshW2Ad2yrvEP7rv9?g_st=ac

I know. I was just using a random intersection off the top of my head without even acknowledging how the intersection was set up but yeah that is how Telegraph and Schoolcraft is setup.

ElishaGOtis

Quote from: Quillz on October 05, 2025, 02:14:22 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 03, 2025, 12:39:02 PMIn more Maryland, I've never seen "Facility Name Safety, Headlight Use Required" signs like these in any other state, and I'm even having trouble finding examples of mandatory headlight use zones outside of Maryland in general.


California has several "daylight headlights zones." Perhaps most notably is nearly all of the Pearblossom Highway (CA-138), which was notorious for a lot of accidents.

Arizona and Nevada have quite a few as well, most notably on rural 2-lane highways that are on the busy side.
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Scott5114

Quote from: ElishaGOtis on October 07, 2025, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Quillz on October 05, 2025, 02:14:22 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 03, 2025, 12:39:02 PMIn more Maryland, I've never seen "Facility Name Safety, Headlight Use Required" signs like these in any other state, and I'm even having trouble finding examples of mandatory headlight use zones outside of Maryland in general.


California has several "daylight headlights zones." Perhaps most notably is nearly all of the Pearblossom Highway (CA-138), which was notorious for a lot of accidents.

Arizona and Nevada have quite a few as well, most notably on rural 2-lane highways that are on the busy side.

Yes, but Nevada's are just plain white regulatory signs. I think the intent of bringing up the Maryland example is to specifically call out the shield and the white-on-black color scheme.
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kphoger

Quote from: epzik8 on October 03, 2025, 12:39:02 PMIn more Maryland, I've never seen "Facility Name Safety, Headlight Use Required" signs like these in any other state, and I'm even having trouble finding examples of mandatory headlight use zones outside of Maryland in general.
Quote from: ElishaGOtis on October 07, 2025, 11:24:13 AMArizona and Nevada have quite a few as well, most notably on rural 2-lane highways that are on the busy side.
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 09, 2025, 05:36:05 AMYes, but Nevada's are just plain white regulatory signs. I think the intent of bringing up the Maryland example is to specifically call out the shield and the white-on-black color scheme.

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dantheman

A couple of Connecticut's unique ones have made this thread already, so I will add their Park & Ride sign:
NO PARKING
TRUCKTRACTOR
SEMITRAILER
TRAILER

https://maps.app.goo.gl/trj7U8YZVeiDYXVL6

I know for sure that these are posted at the I-91 park & ride lots at exits 35 and 38, and I think I've seen them at other P&R lots in the state too. I think the one linked above was just replaced with a different sign that replaces "TRUCKTRACTOR" with something that is actually a real word, but I can't remember what it says now... will have to check next time I'm in the area.

architect77

NC has some logo at their weigh stations, not sure if it's a federal or state agency.

weighinmotion by Stephen Edwards, on Flickr

gonealookin

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 18, 2025, 06:19:15 PMNevada has a whole host of animal-silhouette warning signs that don't appear in the federal manual. Notable ones are the burro warning sign (what other state needs that?)...

Not a silhouette, but the Big Island of Hawaii does have Donkey Crossing warning signs:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/rW1rkmwJkGZARkk66

Bitmapped

PennDOT has "Winding Road Next X Miles" signs. These have historically been used on lower traffic routes as a general catch-all instead of signing every curve, but I've noticed some instances lately where there was a Winding Road sign and the curves were still individually signed.

Here's an example in Greene County: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZYBNi5qbfMvHumJy8

Quillz

Alaska has signs that tell you how many moose have been killed since an arbitrary date. (69 as of July, according to the lone sign I've seen on AK-1 just north of Anchorage).

Outside of perhaps the New England states, I suspect this is probably unique to Alaska. I'm also not clear if they are referring to the entire state, or just the Anchorage area. It's also implied they are killed via car collisions, but it doesn't outright say it.

pderocco

Driving US-1 through Maine, I noticed that between Acadia and Calais the reassurance signs have an extra banner saying COASTAL.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9NwUgJfCTcuZmj179

https://maps.app.goo.gl/T9KZh69hWxjppWD46

I have no idea what they're for. It's not as though there was another INLAND US-1 somewhere else. And it's only kinda sorta coastal, since in most places you're a few miles from the coast, only occasionally seeing an inlet from the ocean. Not exactly Pacific Coast Highway.

Rothman

Quote from: pderocco on October 20, 2025, 12:11:32 AMDriving US-1 through Maine, I noticed that between Acadia and Calais the reassurance signs have an extra banner saying COASTAL.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9NwUgJfCTcuZmj179

https://maps.app.goo.gl/T9KZh69hWxjppWD46

I have no idea what they're for. It's not as though there was another INLAND US-1 somewhere else. And it's only kinda sorta coastal, since in most places you're a few miles from the coast, only occasionally seeing an inlet from the ocean. Not exactly Pacific Coast Highway.

*shrug*

It's just the main coastal route for tourists.  Don't overthink it...
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pderocco

Quote from: Rothman on October 20, 2025, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: pderocco on October 20, 2025, 12:11:32 AMDriving US-1 through Maine, I noticed that between Acadia and Calais the reassurance signs have an extra banner saying COASTAL.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/9NwUgJfCTcuZmj179

https://maps.app.goo.gl/T9KZh69hWxjppWD46

I have no idea what they're for. It's not as though there was another INLAND US-1 somewhere else. And it's only kinda sorta coastal, since in most places you're a few miles from the coast, only occasionally seeing an inlet from the ocean. Not exactly Pacific Coast Highway.

*shrug*

It's just the main coastal route for tourists.  Don't overthink it...
I'm not overthinking it, you're overshrugging it.

formulanone

Quote from: Quillz on October 19, 2025, 11:42:36 PMAlaska has signs that tell you how many moose have been killed since an arbitrary date. (69 as of July, according to the lone sign I've seen on AK-1 just north of Anchorage).

Outside of perhaps the New England states, I suspect this is probably unique to Alaska. I'm also not clear if they are referring to the entire state, or just the Anchorage area. It's also implied they are killed via car collisions, but it doesn't outright say it.

Florida used to have signs proclaiming approximately how many panthers were left in Big Cypress, but those signs have been gone for about 30 years or so. My understanding is that their population has increased, though from a just a few dozen to between 100-250. 

michravera

Quote from: Quillz on October 05, 2025, 02:14:22 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on October 03, 2025, 12:39:02 PMIn more Maryland, I've never seen "Facility Name Safety, Headlight Use Required" signs like these in any other state, and I'm even having trouble finding examples of mandatory headlight use zones outside of Maryland in general.


California has several "daylight headlights zones." Perhaps most notably is nearly all of the Pearblossom Highway (CA-138), which was notorious for a lot of accidents.

In California, the "daylight headlight zones" are everywhere that ought to have freeway or 4-lane divided that hasn't been (or won't be) upgraded. I personally turn on headlights, for instance, along US-101 every time that there is a break in the freeway. I don't drive as much fast and flat single lane as I used to, but I put on headlights for those too.



Revive 755

Looking through https://www.pa.gov/content/dam/copapwp-pagov/en/penndot/documents/public/pubsforms/publications/pub%20236.pdf, Page 86/798 and 88/798 have vertical versions of the Left/Right Lane Must Turn Left/Right signs that could qualify.

crispy93

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Quote from: vdeane on September 18, 2025, 09:14:26 PMThere's these classics from NY.

I'm pretty sure I've seen signs with that exact wording here in the south, didn't it predate the "Reduced Speed Ahead" wording?
Illinois used that wording too.
That's interesting, because IIRC the NY signs were linked to a specific legal concept of linear vs. area speed limits that either isn't around much or is around much less in the rest of the country (basically, the NY speed limit signs that say "city speed limit X", "area speed limit X", etc. are more than just informational).

The fact that I didn't think of the speed limit signs themselves in the first place probably says something about how well my brain has been functioning this month... I really need to get more sleep at some point.

The SPEED ZONE AHEAD signs were particularly confusing in NYC because the "state speed limit" doesn't apply there since NYCDOT caps all freeways at 50 MPH. For example, there used to be one approaching the toll booths at the Whitestone Bridge (curiously, the sign was AFTER the 35 mph zone began: https://maps.app.goo.gl/DjZs7bHHU2FS9oTj8). The sign was removed when the toll plaza was dismantled and the bridge approach is now 40 mph.
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architect77

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Raleigh signage does something not often seen. The destination of a few freeways is a broad reference that the route will take you to the Northern part of town. I don't often see guidance to general sides of a city.

In the 80s Raleigh grew outward in only the North direction, and it's known as North Raleigh, mostly residential along arterials.

But these signs almost certainly are not referring to that specific area and seems to be telling visitors to take this route if your destination is anywhere in the Northern half of town.

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Scott5114

Quote from: architect77 on November 02, 2025, 03:40:56 PMRaleigh signage does something not often seen. The destination of a few freeways is a broad reference that the route will take you to the Northern part of town. I don't often see guidance to general sides of a city.

This is standard practice along I-80 in Nevada. Most towns have three exits: are West Whatever, Downtown Whatever, and East Whatever.

Winnemucca is high-falutin' with its four exits: West Winnemucca, Winnemucca Downtown West, Winnemucca Downtown East, and East Winnemucca.

Interestingly, NDOT District 1 does not follow this practice on I-15, even though there are a few towns north of Las Vegas where they could.
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hbelkins

Quote from: Scott5114 on November 02, 2025, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: architect77 on November 02, 2025, 03:40:56 PMRaleigh signage does something not often seen. The destination of a few freeways is a broad reference that the route will take you to the Northern part of town. I don't often see guidance to general sides of a city.

This is standard practice along I-80 in Nevada. Most towns have three exits: are West Whatever, Downtown Whatever, and East Whatever.

Winnemucca is high-falutin' with its four exits: West Winnemucca, Winnemucca Downtown West, Winnemucca Downtown East, and East Winnemucca.

Interestingly, NDOT District 1 does not follow this practice on I-15, even though there are a few towns north of Las Vegas where they could.

Michigan also uses "DOWNTOWN" quite a bit.
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