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Gordie Howe Bridge (US-Canada)

Started by CoolAngrybirdsrio4, January 13, 2022, 02:01:53 PM

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mgk920

The USA's federal administration has already begun addressing problems with CDLs on its side of the border.

Mike


Rothman

Quote from: mgk920 on October 24, 2025, 11:54:17 AMThe USA's federal administration has already begun addressing problems with CDLs on its side of the border.

Mike

By doing what?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.


hwyfan

The electronic toll transponder which will be used at the Gordie Howe International Bridge is named "Breakaway Pass".  It will initially not have any interoperability agreements in place.  It will be administered by Bridging North America, the consortium behind the bridge project. 

Terms and conditions for it are posted online:
https://gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/terms-and-policies/tolling-privacy-policy/

Rothman

Quote from: hwyfan on January 19, 2026, 01:08:53 PMThe electronic toll transponder which will be used at the Gordie Howe International Bridge is named "Breakaway Pass".  It will initially not have any interoperability agreements in place.  It will be administered by Bridging North America, the consortium behind the bridge project. 

Terms and conditions for it are posted online:
https://gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/terms-and-policies/tolling-privacy-policy/

And yet, Google AI will tell you the bridge is E-ZPass compatible due to it using what-it-probably-AI-generated-content on TollGuru as a bad source.  Wonder how many people are going to show up to the bridge expecting that they'll be able to use E-ZPass when they will not be.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Joe The Dragon

Quote from: hwyfan on January 19, 2026, 01:08:53 PMThe electronic toll transponder which will be used at the Gordie Howe International Bridge is named "Breakaway Pass".  It will initially not have any interoperability agreements in place.  It will be administered by Bridging North America, the consortium behind the bridge project. 

Terms and conditions for it are posted online:
https://gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/terms-and-policies/tolling-privacy-policy/
good luck getting the 407 to take any interoperability with out an foreign transponder fee (maybe per trip) + an foreign account fee per month used.

vdeane

Quote from: Joe The Dragon on January 19, 2026, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: hwyfan on January 19, 2026, 01:08:53 PMThe electronic toll transponder which will be used at the Gordie Howe International Bridge is named "Breakaway Pass".  It will initially not have any interoperability agreements in place.  It will be administered by Bridging North America, the consortium behind the bridge project. 

Terms and conditions for it are posted online:
https://gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/terms-and-policies/tolling-privacy-policy/
good luck getting the 407 to take any interoperability with out an foreign transponder fee (maybe per trip) + an foreign account fee per month used.
Maybe someone should contact the Prime Minister to suggest a Canadian interoperability law, since he's been pushing to make cross-provincial trade easier.  Sadly, such probably wouldn't include becoming interoperable with US transponders given the current political climate... but it is possible to use E-ZPass when traveling from mainland Ontario to Hill Island, so it arguably exists in Canada on a level beyond international travel to/from the US.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

mgk920


hwyfan

Quote from: vdeane on January 19, 2026, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on January 19, 2026, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: hwyfan on January 19, 2026, 01:08:53 PMThe electronic toll transponder which will be used at the Gordie Howe International Bridge is named "Breakaway Pass".  It will initially not have any interoperability agreements in place.  It will be administered by Bridging North America, the consortium behind the bridge project. 

Terms and conditions for it are posted online:
https://gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/terms-and-policies/tolling-privacy-policy/
good luck getting the 407 to take any interoperability with out an foreign transponder fee (maybe per trip) + an foreign account fee per month used.
Maybe someone should contact the Prime Minister to suggest a Canadian interoperability law, since he's been pushing to make cross-provincial trade easier.  Sadly, such probably wouldn't include becoming interoperable with US transponders given the current political climate... but it is possible to use E-ZPass when traveling from mainland Ontario to Hill Island, so it arguably exists in Canada on a level beyond international travel to/from the US.

However, in the instances where E-ZPass is presently available in Canada, it is with binational bridge authorities primarily headquartered in the United States. 

vdeane

Quote from: hwyfan on January 20, 2026, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: vdeane on January 19, 2026, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: Joe The Dragon on January 19, 2026, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: hwyfan on January 19, 2026, 01:08:53 PMThe electronic toll transponder which will be used at the Gordie Howe International Bridge is named "Breakaway Pass".  It will initially not have any interoperability agreements in place.  It will be administered by Bridging North America, the consortium behind the bridge project. 

Terms and conditions for it are posted online:
https://gordiehoweinternationalbridge.com/terms-and-policies/tolling-privacy-policy/
good luck getting the 407 to take any interoperability with out an foreign transponder fee (maybe per trip) + an foreign account fee per month used.
Maybe someone should contact the Prime Minister to suggest a Canadian interoperability law, since he's been pushing to make cross-provincial trade easier.  Sadly, such probably wouldn't include becoming interoperable with US transponders given the current political climate... but it is possible to use E-ZPass when traveling from mainland Ontario to Hill Island, so it arguably exists in Canada on a level beyond international travel to/from the US.

However, in the instances where E-ZPass is presently available in Canada, it is with binational bridge authorities primarily headquartered in the United States. 
True, and the Thousand Islands Bridge is no exception to that, but it is the lone case where one can use E-ZPass within Canada without going through customs.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

The Ghostbuster

Google Maps still hasn't updated its Satellite View on the Gordie Howe Bridge. Apple Maps on the other hand (which I have on my phone), shows more of the bridge completed on its Satellite View: https://maps.apple.com/frame?map=satellite&center=42.287441581135425%2C-83.10145702858496&span=0.009597129811979244%2C0.022264801393546918.

Stephane Dumas

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 20, 2026, 01:19:31 PMGoogle Maps still hasn't updated its Satellite View on the Gordie Howe Bridge. Apple Maps on the other hand (which I have on my phone), shows more of the bridge completed on its Satellite View: https://maps.apple.com/frame?map=satellite&center=42.287441581135425%2C-83.10145702858496&span=0.009597129811979244%2C0.022264801393546918.

Good question, for unknown reasons, Google Earth show a satellite view of the Gordie Howe bridge, a big zoom in from April 11, 2025 as well as a zoom out from September 28, 2025 but not Google Maps.
https://earth.google.com/web/search/Gordie+Howe+International+Bridge,+D%c3%a9troit,+Michigan,+%c3%89tats-Unis/@42.2875605,-83.0980511,172.21271889a,605.8051558d,35y,0h,0t,0r/data=CjQiJgokCWBdMTbdyEZAEfWSsMw9yEZAGSUkHk85ZVLAIeV4HLQnZlLAKgYIARIAGAFCAggBOgMKATBCAggASg0I____________ARAA

The_Ginger

Quote from: Stephane Dumas on January 21, 2026, 05:55:03 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 20, 2026, 01:19:31 PMGoogle Maps still hasn't updated its Satellite View on the Gordie Howe Bridge. Apple Maps on the other hand (which I have on my phone), shows more of the bridge completed on its Satellite View: https://maps.apple.com/frame?map=satellite&center=42.287441581135425%2C-83.10145702858496&span=0.009597129811979244%2C0.022264801393546918.

Good question, for unknown reasons, Google Earth show a satellite view of the Gordie Howe bridge, a big zoom in from April 11, 2025 as well as a zoom out from September 28, 2025 but not Google Maps.
https://earth.google.com/web/search/Gordie+Howe+International+Bridge,+D%c3%a9troit,+Michigan,+%c3%89tats-Unis/@42.2875605,-83.0980511,172.21271889a,605.8051558d,35y,0h,0t,0r/data=CjQiJgokCWBdMTbdyEZAEfWSsMw9yEZAGSUkHk85ZVLAIeV4HLQnZlLAKgYIARIAGAFCAggBOgMKATBCAggASg0I____________ARAA
The reasoning behind this lies on Google Maps's 3D Buildings layer. The 3D Buildings layer will be the default layer, even if newer imagery is available. In the case here, the 3D Buildings layer (albeit not available on Google Maps, but available on Google Earth) will continue to trump the newer, "peasant," imagery until a new 3D Buildings layer is created.

Stephane Dumas

Quote from: TheGinger on January 21, 2026, 07:33:35 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on January 21, 2026, 05:55:03 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 20, 2026, 01:19:31 PMGoogle Maps still hasn't updated its Satellite View on the Gordie Howe Bridge. Apple Maps on the other hand (which I have on my phone), shows more of the bridge completed on its Satellite View: https://maps.apple.com/frame?map=satellite&center=42.287441581135425%2C-83.10145702858496&span=0.009597129811979244%2C0.022264801393546918.

Good question, for unknown reasons, Google Earth show a satellite view of the Gordie Howe bridge, a big zoom in from April 11, 2025 as well as a zoom out from September 28, 2025 but not Google Maps.
https://earth.google.com/web/search/Gordie+Howe+International+Bridge,+D%c3%a9troit,+Michigan,+%c3%89tats-Unis/@42.2875605,-83.0980511,172.21271889a,605.8051558d,35y,0h,0t,0r/data=CjQiJgokCWBdMTbdyEZAEfWSsMw9yEZAGSUkHk85ZVLAIeV4HLQnZlLAKgYIARIAGAFCAggBOgMKATBCAggASg0I____________ARAA
The reasoning behind this lies on Google Maps's 3D Buildings layer. The 3D Buildings layer will be the default layer, even if newer imagery is available. In the case here, the 3D Buildings layer (albeit not available on Google Maps, but available on Google Earth) will continue to trump the newer, "peasant," imagery until a new 3D Buildings layer is created.

More stranger Google Earth show the progress of the new hospital facilities in front of the Henry Ford Hospital but Apple maps didn't shown it yet.

And on a bit off-topic, but I wondered since when we now access directly to Apple Maps on Windows without using it via DuckDuckGo?  Althought we don't get all the features like Apple Maps Look Around, a counterpart of Google Streeview.

Plutonic Panda

I didn't really read too much of it, but I saw on Twitter that Trump posted on his social media or whatever it's called truth something he will not allow the bridge to open unless Canada starts allowing American products to be sold at grocery stores or something like that. Has anyone else seen this? Does he even have the authority to do that?

Max Rockatansky


MikeTheActuary


GaryV

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on February 09, 2026, 07:56:04 PMI saw on Twitter that Trump posted on his social media

Quote from: linked storycomplained that the bridge was built "with virtually no U.S. content"

Yeah, because Canada paid for the whole thing!

Sani

Insane and frustrating, but not surprising. I figured DHS was, at best, slow-rolling facility approvals and staffing, and that was why no official opening date had been announced. I'll be surprised if it opens before the midterms, or even the end of his presidency... whenever that may be.

PColumbus73

It will be a bad look on our part to have brand new impressive bridge that is closed because of one guy's hissy fit.

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: PColumbus73 on February 10, 2026, 08:42:42 AMIt will be a bad look on our part to have brand new impressive bridge that is closed because of one guy's hissy fit.

I don't think most Americans understand how bad we already look to the rest of the world because of him.
Indiana: counties 100%, highways 100%
Illinois: counties 100%, highways 61%
Michigan: counties 100%, highways 56%
Wisconsin: counties 86%, highways 23%

MBHockey13

Who cares? American products SHOULD be sold in Canada if they want to sell their products here. Using leverage is part of the negotiation. I'm sure it will work too.

Max Rockatansky

I know Canada paid entirely for the bridge but what is the ownership stake distribution?

rawmustard

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 10, 2026, 09:46:59 AMI know Canada paid entirely for the bridge but what is the ownership stake distribution?

All I can find is that it is owned equally by Canada and the state of Michigan.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: MBHockey13 on February 10, 2026, 09:42:19 AMWho cares? American products SHOULD be sold in Canada if they want to sell their products here. Using leverage is part of the negotiation. I'm sure it will work too.

Are you under the impression that American products aren't sold in Canada?

Regardless, Canada will make some small meaningless concession, Trump will declare victory, blah blah blah...