Cities not in their namesake counties

xonhulu · July 14, 2009, 06:17:18 PM

On my recent Yellowstone trip, looking at some maps I picked up I noticed something unusual: two examples where a state had a city and county with the same name, but the former wasn't in the latter. The 2 examples I saw were in Montana, where Choteau isn't in Choteau County, and Idaho where Boise isn't in Boise County (close, but it's in Ada County). I could probably look at an atlas and find more examples, but I thought it'd be more fun to open it up to the members here instead to give other examples they know of.

mightyace · July 14, 2009, 06:24:30 PM

Here's a few to start off.

I grew up in Columbia County, PA, but Columbia, PA is in Lancaster County.

Fayetteville, PA is in Franklin County not Fayette County.

Chester, PA is in Delaware County though West Chester is in Chester County, PA.

Bradford, PA is in McKean County, PA and not Bradford County.

West Mifflin, PA is in Allegheny County and Mifflinville is in Columbia County and not Mifflin County.

Monroeville, PA is in Allegheny County and Monroeton is in Bradford County and not Monroe County.

Lehighton, PA is in Carbon County and not Lehigh County.

Montgomery, PA is in Lycoming County not Montgomery County.

Neither Sandusky nor Upper Sandusky, Ohio are in Sandusky County, Ohio.

Baltimore, MD is an independent city and is not part of Baltimore County, MD which surrounds it.

Franklin, TN is in Williamson County, TN and not Franklin County, TN.

Franklin, PA is in Venango County, PA and not in Franklin County, PA.

corco · July 14, 2009, 06:43:23 PM

Laramie is not in Laramie County Wyoming, more abstractly Lewiston Idaho is not in nearby Lewis County

cu2010 · July 14, 2009, 07:38:04 PM

Monroe, NY is in Orange County...not Monroe County. In fact, they're in two entirely different parts of the state.

We also have a Lewiston, NY that is not in Lewis County, and we have Kingston, NY that isn't in Kings County.

mefailenglish · July 15, 2009, 07:46:45 AM

Off the top of my head...

Hernando FL is in Citrus County, not Hernando County.
Dade City FL is in Pasco County, not Dade County.
Port Orange, Orange City, Orange Park, and Orange Lake are all NOT in Orange County FL.

US71 · July 15, 2009, 08:21:41 AM

Van Buren, AR (in Crawford, not Van Buren)
Searcy, AR (in White, not Searcy)
Conway, AR (in Faulkner not Conway)
Benton, AR (in Saline not Benton)

But Bentonville is in Benton County

rawmustard · July 15, 2009, 10:00:06 AM

Just off the top of my head for Michigan:

Clinton is in Lenawee County
Mason is in Ingham County
Otsego is in Allegan County
Schoolcraft is in Kalamazoo County
St. Joseph is in Berrien County

I'm pretty certain that for all of these, the counties and the same-named communities each are named from the same source. Of course, this isn't taking into account all the townships which may share a name with a different county, of which there are several.

74/171FAN · July 15, 2009, 10:43:51 AM

Richmond, VA is not in Richmond County
Roanoke, VA is not considered a part of the surrounding Roanoke County

mightyace · July 15, 2009, 10:52:17 AM

Quote from: 74/171FAN on July 15, 2009, 10:43:51 AM
Richmond, VA is not in Richmond County
Roanoke, VA is not considered a part of the surrounding Roanoke County

I bet that's fairly common in Virginia with their "independent cities."

njroadhorse · July 15, 2009, 11:10:58 AM

Ocean Township, NJ is in Monmouth County, not Ocean County.

Warren, NJ is in Somerset County, not Warren County

Bryant5493 · July 15, 2009, 11:55:56 AM

Choctaw, Mississippi (an indian reservation) is in Neshoba County, not Choctaw County.

Be well,

Bryant

cu2010 · July 15, 2009, 01:46:47 PM

Just thought of another example from NY...Allegany, NY is in Cattaraugus County, not nearby Allegany County.

And although it's not a city (well, technically, Allegany, Lewiston, and Monroe aren't, either

), Allegany State Park is also in Cattaraugus County.

Revive 755 · July 15, 2009, 02:04:18 PM

* St. Louis City, MO, is an independent city and thus not part of St. Louis County.
* Jefferson City, MO is in Cole County; Jefferson County is south of St. Louis County.
* Iowa City, IA, is in Johnson County; Iowa County borders Johnson County on the west.
* Des Moines, IA is in Polk County; Des Moines County is on the Mississippi containing Burlington.
* Marion, IL is in Williamson County; Marion County is up north containing Salem.
* Lincoln, NE, is in Lancaster County; Lincoln County is out west containing North Platte.
* Kearney, NE, is in Buffalo County, Kearney County is the southern border of Buffalo County.

froggie · July 16, 2009, 09:38:21 AM

QuoteI bet that's fairly common in Virginia with their "independent cities."

It is. Except that Richmond County, VA isn't anywhere near the city of Richmond, VA...it's well northeast of the city on the Northern Neck, with 4 counties in between.

QuoteChoctaw, Mississippi (an indian reservation) is in Neshoba County, not Choctaw County.

There's quite a few examples in Mississippi....Jackson, Prentiss, Quitman, and Marion, for starters...

Coelacanth · July 16, 2009, 10:56:09 AM

There are some examples in MN.

Mankato is in Blue Earth County
Blue Earth is in Faribault County
if only Faribault was in Mankato County, but there's no such place and it's in Rice County

Ramsey is in Anoka County

SP Cook · July 16, 2009, 10:23:54 PM

West Virginia:

(actual, meaning that the town really was named for a county it isn't in):

Berkeley Springs is in Morgan County. Morgan County was created after Berkeley Springs was founded by dividing Berkeley County in to two.

(apparent, meaning the town has a name of a county, it is not in, but not really named for the county, although generally both were named for the same person):

Jefferson is in Kanawha County, not Jefferson.
Marshall University is in Cabell, Wayne, and Kanawha Counties, not Marshall.
Barboursville is also in Cabell County, not Barbour.
Morgantown is in Monongalia County, not Morgan.
Lewisburg is in Greenbrier County, not Lewis.
Point Pleasant is in Mason County, not Pleasants.
Summersville is in Nicholas County, not Summers.
Grantsville is in Calhoun County, not Grant.

Alps · July 16, 2009, 10:34:17 PM

Gloucester City, NJ is in Camden County.
Warren, NJ is in Somerset County.
Union Twp., NJ is in Hunterdon County and Union City, NJ is in Hudson County. There's also a Union Twp. in Union County.
Ocean City, NJ is in Cape May County.

Scott5114 · July 17, 2009, 11:58:29 AM

I was curious about this phenomenon in Oklahoma, and I made a whole page about the matter...

florida · July 18, 2009, 01:48:51 AM

Suwannee, FL is in Dixie County, two counties south of Suwannee County.

Hellfighter · July 19, 2009, 09:18:50 PM

Schoolcraft, MI is located in Kalamazoo County and not in Schoolcraft County, which is in the UP.

Bryant5493 · July 19, 2009, 11:11:21 PM

Forsyth, Georgia's in Monroe County, not Forsyth County.
Jackson, Georgia's in Butts County, not Jackson County.
Macon, Georgia's in Bibb County, not Macon County.
Decatur, Georgia's in DeKalb County, not Decatur County.

Be well,

Bryant

Crewdawg · July 23, 2009, 01:43:33 PM

Maricopa AZ in in Pima County not Maricoa County

Crewdawg · July 23, 2009, 02:30:52 PM

On the other hand San Francisco city limits are the same as the county lines

SSOWorld · July 25, 2009, 12:22:03 AM

Quote from: SILLYSAM on July 23, 2009, 02:30:52 PM
On the other hand San Francisco city limits are the same as the county lines

The two are one entity "City and County of San Francisco."

Chris · July 25, 2009, 04:16:24 AM

Is that the same as a "Consolidated city-county"?

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Cities not in their namesake counties