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kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 21, 2026, 12:17:57 PMA couple of weeks ago the University of Nevada Las Vegas radio station was promoting a live adaptation of the 1980s Clue movie. Except it was a burlesque adaptation, where the weapon each character had was concealed under their clothes, and then revealed by them doing a striptease.

That story would have been better if it were a radio program instead of a live burlesque.

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Scott5114

Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2026, 12:25:08 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 21, 2026, 12:17:57 PMA couple of weeks ago the University of Nevada Las Vegas radio station was promoting a live adaptation of the 1980s Clue movie. Except it was a burlesque adaptation, where the weapon each character had was concealed under their clothes, and then revealed by them doing a striptease.

That story would have been better if it were a radio program instead of a live burlesque.

I'm not sure I want any of the KUNV announcers narrating that.
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Max Rockatansky

Getting upset about graffiti on long abandoned highway segments. 

kphoger

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 21, 2026, 07:46:36 PMGetting upset about graffiti on long abandoned highway segments. 

Who gets upset about graffiti on abandoned infrastructure?

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Max Rockatansky

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Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2026, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 21, 2026, 07:46:36 PMGetting upset about graffiti on long abandoned highway segments. 

Who gets upset about graffiti on abandoned infrastructure?

Lots of people who follow our Facebook page.  I just get annoyed by the same people who whine about a small graffiti tag when they ought to be focusing on the cool abandoned highway segment.  The post engagement is probably good for in terms of getting the algorithm going though.

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Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2026, 08:26:15 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 21, 2026, 07:46:36 PMGetting upset about graffiti on long abandoned highway segments. 

Who gets upset about graffiti on abandoned infrastructure?

I get upset at pretty much all graffiti.
I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

Max Rockatansky

For the record I don't endorse tagging anything.  But I'm not going to lose my shit when a segment of highway that has been abandoned for half a century has a little bit of spray paint on it.  Those older abandoned road segments will long outlast the graffiti.

Scott5114

I feel like your reaction to graffiti is something that is really tied to the culture of wherever you grew up. Living in Oklahoma, graffiti always made me feel nervous because it's only the worst parts of the Oklahoma City that tend to have it, and rural graffiti isn't all that much of a thing (other than "Kent loves Sally" type things obviously done by bored teenagers).

Driving through New Mexico and seeing the heavy graffiti on abandoned Route 66 buildings in rural areas was eye opening. Still, once I got to Las Vegas it took a while to get used to the idea that perfectly safe neighborhoods will still have graffiti and that's just the way it is here. I don't feel unsafe at all in my boring suburban neighborhood on the edge of town, and yet there are a couple of tags on the wall across the street from me.
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thspfc

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2026, 12:24:51 AMgraffiti always made me feel nervous because it's only the worst parts of the Oklahoma City that tend to have it
65th in violent crime and 68th in property crime? Don't go to any other cities.

formulanone

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I have mixed feelings on graffiti; on one hand it's childish disrespect for a public good and you don't have the right to deface property that isn't yours. On the other hand, public advertising deserves no respect because it's put in a place to distract the masses and psychologically make us feel insecure, unworthy, and incapable of making our own decisions. So I generally have no problem with its defacement, with exceptions made on private property and for limited self-promotion.

Graffiti lies somewhere in an uncanny valley between artful messaging and can make a bold statement that's sometimes drowned out by society. But mostly it looks like bored territorial pissings which is essentially harmless. I actually believe it's best to just have a singular public place where can exist if you don't want it out of control, with the understanding that it might offend but might also wow and wonder, yet a temporary canvas in a floating world of ideals.

Scott5114

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Quote from: thspfc on April 22, 2026, 09:12:04 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2026, 12:24:51 AMgraffiti always made me feel nervous because it's only the worst parts of the Oklahoma City that tend to have it
65th in violent crime and 68th in property crime? Don't go to any other cities.

No, I know perfectly well Oklahoma City is statistically safe as far as cities go. What I am saying is, growing up in that area, graffiti was generally an environmental cue you were in a rough area. You didn't see it in well-to-do parts of town. That was a cue I had to unlearn in Las Vegas, because even the posher parts of town like Summerlin have graffiti. Here the environmental cues for a bad part of town are different (fenced-off front yards, for instance, which is something you rarely see even in the worst parts of OKC).

Quote from: formulanone on April 22, 2026, 09:13:07 AMI have mixed feelings on graffiti; on one hand it's childish disrespect for a public good and you don't have the right to deface property that isn't yours. On the other hand, public advertising deserves no respect because it's put in a place to distract the masses and psychologically make us feel insecure, unworthy, and incapable of making our own decisions. So I generally have no problem with its defacement, with exceptions made on private property and for limited self-promotion.

Graffiti lies somewhere in an uncanny valley between artful messaging and can make a bold statement that's sometimes drowned out by society. But mostly it looks like bored territorial pissings which is essentially harmless. I actually believe it's best to just have a singular public place where can exist if you don't want it out of control, with the understanding that it might offend but might also wow and wonder, yet a temporary canvas in a floating world of ideals.

Besides moving to LV, another thing that changed my mind about graffiti was this photo:


It's kind of hard to take it as much of a serious problem if you look at it from that perspective.
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kphoger

Quote from: kphoger on April 21, 2026, 08:26:15 PMWho gets upset about graffiti on abandoned infrastructure?
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 22, 2026, 09:48:56 AM... graffiti was generally an environmental cue you were in a rough area.

Or, even, an abandoned area.

That's my point.  If something is abandoned, then who cares?  It's not somebody's property, it's no longer public infrastructure, it's just a bunch of concrete somewhere.

Quote from: formulanone on April 22, 2026, 09:13:07 AMI actually believe it's best to just have a singular public place where can exist ...

But a lot of the motivation behind doing graffiti in public spaces is to rebel against societal norms or to challenge authority.  Having one legitimate place to showcase your artwork wouldn't really scratch that itch, so people would still put their graffiti where they're not supposed to.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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Scott5114

What I don't get is the graffiti done by sticking up random-looking combinations of hardware store letter stickers.
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formulanone

Quote from: kphoger on April 22, 2026, 10:51:53 AM
Quote from: formulanone on April 22, 2026, 09:13:07 AMI actually believe it's best to just have a singular public place where can exist ...

But a lot of the motivation behind doing graffiti in public spaces is to rebel against societal norms or to challenge authority.  Having one legitimate place to showcase your artwork wouldn't really scratch that itch, so people would still put their graffiti where they're not supposed to.

Yeah, it's not a perfect solution. But most people aren't looking to perform Krylon masterworks, either.

thenetwork

Quote from: formulanone on April 22, 2026, 09:13:07 AMI have mixed feelings on graffiti; on one hand it's childish disrespect for a public good and you don't have the right to deface property that isn't yours. On the other hand, public advertising deserves no respect because it's put in a place to distract the masses and psychologically make us feel insecure, unworthy, and incapable of making our own decisions. So I generally have no problem with its defacement, with exceptions made on private property and for limited self-promotion.

Graffiti lies somewhere in an uncanny valley between artful messaging and can make a bold statement that's sometimes drowned out by society. But mostly it looks like bored territorial pissings which is essentially harmless. I actually believe it's best to just have a singular public place where can exist if you don't want it out of control, with the understanding that it might offend but might also wow and wonder, yet a temporary canvas in a floating world of ideals.


Tagging railroad cars is like writing your name on a $20 bill -- what are the odds that once it leaves town you'll ever see your "mark" again?  And who will be able to translate the gobbly book they wrote anyways?

That's why railroad companies don't use vibrant colors or logos on their train cars like they did decades ago.  Most rail cars nowadays start off in dull silver, rust red, or black because they know they will be tagged within the first year or two.

kphoger

Quote from: thenetwork on April 22, 2026, 05:36:47 PMTagging railroad cars is like writing your name on a $20 bill -- what are the odds that once it leaves town you'll ever see your "mark" again?  And who will be able to translate the gobbly book they wrote anyways?

That's why railroad companies don't use vibrant colors or logos on their train cars like they did decades ago.  Most rail cars nowadays start off in dull silver, rust red, or black because they know they will be tagged within the first year or two.

Got to say, though, I do enjoy spotting a Colossus of Roads moniker.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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TheCatalyst31

I don't have a problem with graffiti in general, but I admit I soured on tag bombing after this local incident where a bar owner wrote his tag all over rival bars and caused expensive damage to a bunch of vintage arcade machines. I've seen that guy's tag elsewhere in Madison, along with a few others that I can recognize for as often as I've seen them, and they're never especially artistic or even varied at all.

kphoger

Cheetos — stick to your teeth

Haribo gummy bears — too hard

Twizzlers — like eating plastic

popcorn — like eating salted Styrofoam

Doritos — not as good as potato chips OR plain tortilla chips

Oreos — especially the Double Stuf, with twice as much weird super-sweet frosting crap

Peeps — when people recommend letting a food get stale first, something went wrong

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Max Rockatansky

The heavy amount of dye in regular Oreos will turn your poop black lack if you eat too many of them. 

kphoger

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 29, 2026, 12:09:26 PMThe heavy amount of dye in regular Oreos will turn your poop black lack if you eat too many of them

So . . . more than two.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kphoger on April 29, 2026, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 29, 2026, 12:09:26 PMThe heavy amount of dye in regular Oreos will turn your poop black lack if you eat too many of them

So . . . more than two.

Yes, pretty much.

kphoger

As a parent, I've also found out that too much Froot Loops will turn a kid's poop a weird green color.

From personal experience, I've found that too much beets will make you worry about your health when you go to flush the toilet the following day.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

wanderer2575

Quote from: kphoger on April 29, 2026, 12:03:38 PMPeeps — when people recommend letting a food get stale first, something went wrong

How could you mention this and then forget circus peanuts?

https://www.straightdope.com/21342305/does-anybody-actually-like-circus-peanuts

kphoger

Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 29, 2026, 12:32:30 PMHow could you mention this and then forget circus peanuts?

Because I've never had one in my life.  Are these typically rated highly by people?

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: kphoger on April 29, 2026, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on April 29, 2026, 12:32:30 PMHow could you mention this and then forget circus peanuts?

Because I've never had one in my life.  Are these typically rated highly by people?

Not the kind of people I want to be friends with.