__________ is/are overrated.

[kphoger]

a moment of silence

Official moments of silence are overrated.

[Rothman]

a moment of silence

Official moments of silence are overrated.

[Rothman]

Starship Troopers.  Didn't like it when it came out.  Gave it another try due to the "It's a satire!" fanboys and still don't like it.

[Max Rockatansky]

Starship Troopers.  Didn't like it when it came out.  Gave it another try due to the "It's a satire!" fanboys and still don't like it.

I like Starship Troopers but it isn't as good as RoboCop and Total Recall were.  All three have that same Paul Verhoeven satirical style. 

[Rothman]

Starship Troopers.  Didn't like it when it came out.  Gave it another try due to the "It's a satire!" fanboys and still don't like it.

I like Starship Troopers but it isn't as good as RoboCop and Total Recall were.  All three have that same Paul Verhoeven satirical style. 

Yeah, I just find it quite muddled compared to those other, much better, movies.  Starts off well, but then just deteriorates into "war against bugs."  The other two are paced better, better acted and the social criticism is more consistent throughout.

Hard for my puritan side to not think it's popular resurgence is people figured out there was nudity in it.

[kphoger]

The newer version of MS Paint.  The old one was better.

[kurumi]

Starship Troopers.  Didn't like it when it came out.  Gave it another try due to the "It's a satire!" fanboys and still don't like it.

I like Starship Troopers but it isn't as good as RoboCop and Total Recall were.  All three have that same Paul Verhoeven satirical style. 

Yeah, I just find it quite muddled compared to those other, much better, movies.  Starts off well, but then just deteriorates into "war against bugs."  The other two are paced better, better acted and the social criticism is more consistent throughout.

Hard for my puritan side to not think it's popular resurgence is people figured out there was nudity in it.

Starship Troopers might have surged for its memeability (similar to how The Prequels rose from "terrible" to "terrible but we're fond of them"):
* I'm doing my part!
* Would you like to know more?
* The only good bug is a dead bug
* It sucked his brains out!
* It's afraid!

[Max Rockatansky]

Starship Troopers.  Didn't like it when it came out.  Gave it another try due to the "It's a satire!" fanboys and still don't like it.

I like Starship Troopers but it isn't as good as RoboCop and Total Recall were.  All three have that same Paul Verhoeven satirical style. 

Yeah, I just find it quite muddled compared to those other, much better, movies.  Starts off well, but then just deteriorates into "war against bugs."  The other two are paced better, better acted and the social criticism is more consistent throughout.

Hard for my puritan side to not think it's popular resurgence is people figured out there was nudity in it.

Starship Troopers might have surged for its memeability (similar to how The Prequels rose from "terrible" to "terrible but we're fond of them"):
* I'm doing my part!
* Would you like to know more?
* The only good bug is a dead bug
* It sucked his brains out!
* It's afraid!

Speaking of the Star Wars prequels, I was thinking about them after seeing The Mandalorian and Grogu with my wife.  That movie is at least an objectively better film than Episodes I and II were.  We are so fast to overlook things like Jar Jar Binks and sand hating these days.

[kphoger]

I've never really understood the hate for the Star Wars prequels.  The Ewoks are way more out of place than Jar Jar.

[Max Rockatansky]

I've never really understood the hate for the Star Wars prequels.  The Ewoks are way more out of place than Jar Jar.

I don't "hate" them, aside from Episode 9 I don't think any Star Wars movies are actually bad.  The prequel movies delivered on the promise of showing how a violent sociopath lost all control of himself.   

[formulanone]

I've never really understood the hate for the Star Wars prequels.  The Ewoks are way more out of place than Jar Jar.

I don't "hate" them, aside from Episode 9 I don't think any Star Wars movies are actually bad.  The prequel movies delivered on the promise of showing how a violent sociopath lost all control of himself.   

I think I was just initially disappointed that Episodes I-III were 90% focused on a storyline with forgone conclusion. Kind of hoped we'd see the divergent arcs of other characters central to IV-VI, but I suppose it would have felt like three movies without a coherent and consistent plot.

Funny how my kids kind of got me to enjoy them from a different angle (the politicking) as I hadn't rewatched them for about 10-15 years.

I'll stand by the Ewoks being the obvious anti-technological aspect and visually cute underdogs but I was also 9 when I saw them...so they get the same pass another generation saw in Jar Jar and the pod race (of which parts felt like an homage to John Frankenhiemer's Grand Prix!).

[Max Rockatansky]

I've never really understood the hate for the Star Wars prequels.  The Ewoks are way more out of place than Jar Jar.

I don't "hate" them, aside from Episode 9 I don't think any Star Wars movies are actually bad.  The prequel movies delivered on the promise of showing how a violent sociopath lost all control of himself.   

I think I was just disappointed that Episodes I-III were 90% focused on a storyline with forgone conclusion.

Funny how my kids kind of got me to enjoy them from a different angle (the politicking) as I hadn't rewatched them for about 10-15 years.

The galactic political stuff is probably the best part of the three movies.  Darth Sidious does so much behind the scenes manipulating in the trilogy.  It really plays well into the Imperial bureaucracy later seen in Andor and Rogue One.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

As time has gone on and we have all three sequel movies to look back on as a whole, it's hard for me to see them as anything but a poor retelling of the original movies with some window dressing to make it look like it's something other than that. That's what leaves me so disappointed.

[CtrlAltDel]

As time has gone on and we have all three sequel movies to look back on as a whole, it's hard for me to see them as anything but a poor retelling of the original movies with some window dressing to make it look like it's something other than that. That's what leaves me so disappointed.

I concur.

[CtrlAltDel]

The newer version of MS Paint.  The old one was better.

I concur with this as well. To the point that I downloaded and installed the old one.

[Max Rockatansky]

As time has gone on and we have all three sequel movies to look back on as a whole, it's hard for me to see them as anything but a poor retelling of the original movies with some window dressing to make it look like it's something other than that. That's what leaves me so disappointed.

I concur.

Whatever the plan was after Episode 8 got backpedaled out of nowhere in Episode 9.  Kylo Ren should have been the trilogy big bad after going off his rocker.  An actual twist being worthwhile would've been that he was completely beyond any measure of redemption. 

[PColumbus73]

As time has gone on and we have all three sequel movies to look back on as a whole, it's hard for me to see them as anything but a poor retelling of the original movies with some window dressing to make it look like it's something other than that. That's what leaves me so disappointed.

I concur.

I've always felt the post-Disney Star Wars films were just a cash grab. The sequel trilogy suffered from inconsistent storytelling considering the movies kept changing directors who all seemed to want it their way. Also relying too much on fan service, callbacks, and nostalgia to mask poorly executed movies. I.e. Princess Leia Mary Poppins-ing her way to safety or Palpatine being the big bad in the final movie.

Disney as a whole suffers from CEOs who are themselves boring and unimaginative.

[thenetwork]

As time has gone on and we have all three sequel movies to look back on as a whole, it's hard for me to see them as anything but a poor retelling of the original movies with some window dressing to make it look like it's something other than that. That's what leaves me so disappointed.

I concur.

I've always felt the post-Disney Star Wars films were just a cash grab. The sequel trilogy suffered from inconsistent storytelling considering the movies kept changing directors who all seemed to want it their way. Also relying too much on fan service, callbacks, and nostalgia to mask poorly executed movies. I.e. Princess Leia Mary Poppins-ing her way to safety or Palpatine being the big bad in the final movie.

Disney as a whole suffers from CEOs who are themselves boring and unimaginative.

Major movie studios that insist on spending more time cranking out endless prequels, sequels or reboots (instead of trying something new and different for a change)...

...are overrated.

[DTComposer]

I was just a bit young to see Star Wars in the theater, but from Empire Strikes Back onward I have seen all of them in the theater on their opening weekend. I'm not so big a fanboy that I got into the expanded universe and such, but I remember being able to watch the trailer for Episode 1 online (which was in itself a big deal) and being so excited to see the movie.

I thought it was...fine. Episode 2 was definitely mediocre at best. Episode 3 was exciting at the end.

The sequels certainly have their issues (although many of things people complain about with the actual story were present in the previous films), but to me, now middle-aged, they're just more entertaining than the prequels. My 11-year-old son, who is not a huge Star Wars person, has watched the sequels and the OT multiple times, but I'm not sure he's even made it all the way through the prequels.

Major movie studios that insist on spending more time cranking out endless prequels, sequels or reboots (instead of trying something new and different for a change)...

...are overrated.

I agree, but it works both ways. Pixar gets dunked on for Toy Story 4 and 5, but they also get dunked on for Elemental and Turning Red. If you're gonna get pilloried by the internet masses for every movie that doesn't live up to their 1999-2010 output (which I would argue is one of the greatest runs by any studio ever), and pilloried by the stockholders for every movie that doesn't clear half a billion dollars, then why wouldn't you just play it safe creatively for a bigger chance at financial success?

EDIT: I feel like people have misinterpreted my comment as an endorsement of why studios do what they do. I in no way endorse this approach in creating art (or anything, really).

[Scott5114]

why wouldn't you just play it safe creatively for a bigger chance at financial success?

Because that's artistically bankrupt?

Playing it safe is how you get media that gets criticized for being "soulless". If there isn't something in there for people to potentially dislike then there is no chance there will be anything in there to potentially like.

This is why capitalism ruins art—the best art is when someone is out there saying the message they want to say without regard to whether it's popular or not.

[I-57/Route 66 Fan]

a moment of silence

Official moments of silence are overrated.

Why do you say that?

[kphoger]

This is why capitalism ruins art

Nothing compares to all those awesome movies from 1980s Angola!

[bugo]

why wouldn't you just play it safe creatively for a bigger chance at financial success

You are obviously not an artist. True artists don't create for money, they create because they want or have to.

[bugo]

I have never, ever seen any of the Star Wars movies. I have never been much into movies (I like music much more), and nobody ever played it for me when I was a kid. I have never had the desire to see any of them. I didn't intend to not see them when I was young, I just happened to not see them. So now, I refuse to watch any of them. I am a stubborn contrarian and a bit of an art snob, and sometimes I like to piss on things that are extremely popular. And "I've never seen any of the Star Wars films" is a good icebreaker.

[Max Rockatansky]

I like Star Wars fine but outside of the original two movies none of them are high art.  I'm good with watching okay or middle of the road movies so long as they provide entertainment.  The Star Wars franchise has a lot of movies that are just okay and entertaining.