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Started by andy3175, November 21, 2014, 12:28:32 AM

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Quote from: davewiecking on June 28, 2024, 03:02:44 PM
Quote from: andy3175 on June 19, 2024, 06:37:57 PMUpdate on WYO 22... according to WyDOT, construction to build a detour of the collapsed section of WYO Hwy 22 over Teton Pass could be ready for driving by the middle of next week.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2024/06/18/teton-pass-temporary-fix-could-be-paved-and-re-open-by-middle-of-next-week

QuoteAn end may be in sight for Jackson, Wyoming, workers who live in Idaho and have had to add hours of extra travel a day to get around a "catastrophic" failure of Highway 22 that has kept Teton Pass closed for a week and a half.

On June 8, a large chuck of the mountain slid away from under Highway 22 at milepost 12.8, sending it into the ravine below. This event and the full-blast, 24/7 road reconstruction effort is now being referred to as the "Big Fill Slide."

On Monday night, the Wyoming Department of Transportation announced that officials hope to have a temporary rerouting of the road paved by the middle of next week and the road opened to traffic "soon after."

Opened about an hour ago. Will post a non-FB link if I stumble across one.

https://www.facebook.com/100064686821344/posts/pfbid0KPpTdTSGiSdRHA9EZDzKbFmDf6ppSmo5Fkc15LpFMAXNSAKsF4ixQtYf1VXKJtBVl/?

On May 1, 2025, The Wyoming Department of Transportation reported to the Joint Transportation, Highways and Military Affairs Committee (see https://www.wyoleg.gov/Committees/2025/J08) that the slope failure/landslide that caused Wyoming Highway 22 to collapse and slide off Teton Pass on June 8, 2024, was not avoidable and was caused by extreme, fast-changing weather conditions. The Big Fill Slide project was a rapid reconstruction effort to build the temporary roadway shown in the following photo from WyDOT. However, additional work is needed for the permanent solution.



https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/05/03/failure-that-caused-teton-pass-to-slide-off-mountain-was-unavoidable-wydot-says/

QuoteThe actual mudslide that caused the collapse was triggered several thousand feet up the mountain from where the road was eventually wiped out, leaving several feet of mud over the top of the highway. ...

Shortly after the slide, Gov. Mark Gordon issued an emergency declaration, allowing WYDOT to be able to apply with the federal government for emergency repair money. ... Under this program, for the first 180 days after an event, the feds will reimburse 100% of all costs. After that, the costs move to a 50/50 split with the state.

A box culvert was installed on Teton Pass by WYDOT to better channel mud during future runoff and high moisture events. This came at a cost of $1.4 million. ...

Two days after the Highway 22 collapse, WYDOT started developing plans for a temporary detour route to get the road back open, and on June 28, 2024, they accomplished that — just 20 days after the slide wiped out the road. ...

About one week after the slide, WYDOT also issued a request for proposals for a permanent reconstruction of the road. The agency decided to build the road back as it had been prior to the slide.

Fulton said some members of the public questioned why they didn't move the road to avoid future slides. Doing so would've increased Highway 22's 10% grade to 22%, or required the construction of another horseshoe switchback in the road, he said. ...

The actual work on this part of the project started in September, with work continuing through Dec. 16. Fulton said the work stopped at this point because the quantity of snow became too much to overcome. ...

Stabilizing the slopes above the incident cost about $11 million and installing drainage pipes and various foam glass aggregates for the base of the road cost another $30 million.


Regards,
Andy

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bing101

Road Guy Rob takes a tour of the tunnel in Wyoming.


rte66man

https://www.dot.state.wy.us/news/final-paving-work-on-the-big-fill-slide-will-close-teton-pass-for-the

QuoteFinal paving work on the Big Fill Slide will close Teton Pass for the weekend of June 21
June 6, 2025
Jackson, Wyo.  The Wyoming Department of Transportation and contract crews from Ames Construction will be entering the final phases of work this month on the Big Fill Slide on Wyoming State Highway 22, Teton Pass. As crews pave the final stretch of new roadway, WYDOT will need to close the road to traffic for the weekend of June 21. The closure is planned to begin the evening of June 20, at 6 p.m. and will run through Saturday and Sunday, opening back up on Monday, June 23 at 6 a.m. Crews will work 24 hours a day, with an hour by hour schedule to expedite the work. During the closure, drivers will have to detour around Teton Pass using US 26 through Swan Valley and then into the Snake River Canyon.

During the closure, WYDOT and crews will be milling, grading, placing crushed base, paving, installing guardrail and signs. WYDOT came to the decision after weighing alternative schedules with the contractor, discussing how they could accommodate the work with the least amount of impact on drivers and commuters.

"We really only had two options. We could do the work under a lane closure, which would only give drivers one, alternating lane of travel for ten days or more. If we did that, it would cause extensive delays and wait times for drivers for weeks, backing up traffic on the mountain every day. Those delays would likely be longer than the detour around during commuter times. After discussing with the contractor and local stakeholders, we thought it was best for the community if we just close the road and get the work done quickly in one weekend," WYDOT resident engineer Bob Hammond said.

During the weekend closure, WYO 22 will be closed to vehicles at the Coal Creek Campground on the west side of the pass and closed to vehicles at the mile marker 7 road closure gate on the east side of the pass. During that time, bicyclists and recreationalists will still have access to Coal Creek Campground on the west side, as well as access to the top of Teton Pass from the east side. However, WYDOT asks that those walking or biking be cautious and aware of heavy trucks traveling to and from the work site and not to descend west toward the construction site.

WYDOT and the contractor are confident the work can be completed in a single weekend, but unpredictable weather and other unforeseen variables could necessitate last-minute changes to the plans. WYDOT remains committed to updating the public with timely information and recommends that drivers who travel the area sign up for 511 Notify Text alerts to receive up-to-date information about the work. Drivers can sign up for 511 Notify at 511Notify.

With the calendar hitting the one year anniversary of the Big Fill Slide event, WYDOT remains aware of the impacts the road failure and subsequent construction has had on the people and economies in both Wyoming and Idaho.

"We know how this has impacted the commuters in the area. We are asking for your support and patience one more time. We're almost there, and soon the public will be driving on the new, paved alignment after the closure," Hammond said.

For more information about the Big Fill Slide, visit our media kit at: Big Fill Slide.
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Quote from: rte66man on June 10, 2025, 12:43:04 PMhttps://www.dot.state.wy.us/news/final-paving-work-on-the-big-fill-slide-will-close-teton-pass-for-the

QuoteFinal paving work on the Big Fill Slide will close Teton Pass for the weekend of June 21


It looks like the closure was postponed to this weekend for weather reasons.
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The Ghostbuster

Given how sparsely populated the state of Wyoming is, I highly doubt adding tolls to Interstate 80 (or Interstates 25 or 90) will be feasible. There likely isn't enough traffic to warrant tolls either. They will have to come up with another funding plan to pay for road upkeep.

vdeane

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on August 22, 2025, 10:55:48 AMGiven how sparsely populated the state of Wyoming is, I highly doubt adding tolls to Interstate 80 (or Interstates 25 or 90) will be feasible. There likely isn't enough traffic to warrant tolls either. They will have to come up with another funding plan to pay for road upkeep.
I imagine the interstates have a disproportionate amount of out of state traffic, which might make tolling attractive.  States tend to like raising revenue in ways that primarily hit outsiders.
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andy3175

Quote from: JayhawkCO on August 22, 2025, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Rothman on August 22, 2025, 07:12:35 AM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on August 22, 2025, 03:00:55 AMhttps://sheridanmedia.com/news/205237/fuel-tax-increase-i-80-toll-road-charges-proposals-to-alleviate-rising-roadway-costs/

Could we see I-80 in Wyoming becoming a toll road?

Makes me wonder what'll happen to revenues in the winter.

Likely will get blown away.

The fuel tax proposal was not approved. Nothing mentioned on tolls. From https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/10/20/legislature-shoots-down-controversial-fuel-tax-hike-amid-400m-wydot-deficit/:

QuoteState legislators on Monday shot down a controversial increase to Wyoming's fuel tax and recreational vehicle registration fees, despite concerns the Wyoming Department of Transportation could be facing a budget shortfall of more than $400 million.

WYDOT Chief Financial Officer Dennis Byrne in August shared predictions showing his department faces a projected $411 million shortfall over the next decade. That projection, he said at the time, had likely worsened since the department's analysis.

To solve the problem, some legislators said they must consider raising taxes, while admitting that's an unpopular option in Wyoming.

While the measure was up for approval at an August meeting of the legislative Transportation, Highways and Military Affairs Committee, lawmakers decided to table the measure until October. During the August meeting they also approved an amendment to the bill so that the proposed 10-cent hike would take effect in two parts and not take full effect until the summer of 2028.

The bill would have increased Wyoming's tax on gasoline and diesel fuel from 24 cents to 29 cents beginning in July 2026 before moving it to 34 cents by June of 2028. The price to register snowmobiles, motorboats and off-road vehicles would have also been increased. ...

The committee then shot down the tax bill in a 5-7 vote.

The decision comes as average gas prices across Wyoming continue to fall, according to AARP. The average cost of regular fuel is down about three cents per gallon since this time last year.

Natrona County leads the state with the lowest average of $2.57.
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Andy

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andy3175

A recent bridge strike by an oversized vehicle on Interstate 90 at Beulah (Exit 205 near Wyoming-South Dakota state line) brought the question of responsibility for road and bridge damage caused by oversized vehicles including trucks.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/10/20/i-90-bridge-strike-raises-trucker-scrutiny-on-wydot-signage/

QuoteOn the evening of Oct. 15, a low-boy truck and trailer carrying the mast of a forklift exceeded the posted clearance height of 15 feet 11 inches of the overpass at Beulah along I-90, damaging several girders and braces.

A preliminary inspection revealed that the damage compromised the integrity of the bridge, which will remain closed to traffic until WYDOT engineers complete a more detailed examination.

The name of the truck driver responsible for the bridge strike and the company they work for was not released.

The driver had obtained necessary permits to transport the oversized load beneath the bridge, according to WYDOT. The bridge strike is under investigation by the Wyoming Highway Patrol. ...

The mishap marks at least the second time that the Beulah bridge has been struck. In June, WYDOT completed a $1.9 million repair to the bridge from a 2023 strike.

There are an estimated 13,000 to 18,000 bridge strikes a year nationwide by tractor-trailers, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Statistics for Wyoming were not immediately available.

But there are problem spots, like the McKinley Street Bridge in Casper, which has a very low clearance of 11 feet, 0 inches and has been hit by trucks multiple times. ...

The Wyoming bridge that has been struck the most is on North Fork Road passing over I-25 near the town of Kaycee, which has been hit seven times since 1981, said McGee.

Many of the strikes were caused by trucks traveling in-state, which did not have to pass through one of Wyoming's ports of entry and therefore were not measured, possibly making drivers unaware of height restrictions, he said.

Another notorious spot is the South Parsley Boulevard bridge over Interstate 80 in Cheyenne, which was struck in 2021 and 2022. ...

Ultimately, drivers are responsible for ensuring their loads meet height requirements and can be safely transported beneath bridges, said Doug McGee, a spokesman for WYDOT.

"It is a driver's responsibility to make sure there is clearance for their truck and load," he said, adding that many strikes happen because drivers are inattentive to signage listing height restrictions. "When a bridge strike happens, it can affect traffic flow for people and cost transportation companies a great deal of money (for repairs)."
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Andy

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andy3175

A recent Cowboy State Daily article updates the economic and social impact of Wyoming Hwy 22 connecting Teton County in Wyoming with Teton County in Idaho: https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/09/10/new-and-improved-teton-pass-commute-connects-two-teton-counties-in-two-states/

QuoteSince the rapid response to a landslide closing it last year, the Teton Pass corridor has continued to accelerate its role as a key commuting route connecting Driggs, Idaho, and Jackson. ... The pass was reopened three weeks after the catastrophic failure.

Wyoming Highway 22 unites Teton County in Wyoming with Teton County in Idaho. Increasingly in this "Wydaho" region, the Driggs-to- Jackson-and-back routine involves so many locals that the two towns in two states feel bound together, with Idaho offering bedroom communities for a large part of the Jackson workforce.

On Tuesday, county commissioners from both Teton Counties were updated on work associated with the BUILD Grant Project transportation improvements, including bus service anchored by new transit centers on either side of Teton Pass.
Regards,
Andy

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andy3175

This article presents the history of former Wyoming Route 292 (current Park County Route 8VC, Canyon Road) along Clarks Fork Canyon: https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/07/26/clarks-ill-fated-and-tragic-road-to-nowhere-never-reached-final-destination.

Wyoming 292 was intended in the late 1960s/early 1970s to provide access between Wyoming 120 and US 212 (Beartooth Highway). This was part of a larger initiative to build a road that would connect Cody with Cooke City near the northeastern entrance to Yellowstone National Park. A portion of Wyoming 292 was built just west of the community of Clark, but it ended abruptly. The stub route of Wyoming 292 was built in 1969, along with the northern segment of Wyoming 296. But there was uncertainty as to whether to connect the stub of Wyoming 292 with Wyoming 296 through Clarks Fork Canyon or over Dead Indian Summit (also referred to as a "pass" or a "hill" in the article and EIS).

Plans to build the road were abandoned, especially once the Clarks Fork of the Yellowstone River was designated a Wild and Scenic River. The role of connecting Cody to Cooke City and the northeastern entrance to Yellowstone National Park was later assumed by Wyoming 296 (Chief Joseph Highway) over Dead Indian Summit, which was completed in 1995. It is not clear exactly when Wyoming 292 was decommissioned; the 1979 official map shows it, but later maps do not have it signed. My guess is that once plans to extend it were abandoned, the Wyoming Highway Department worked with Park County to decommission the route and remove it from the state highway system.

I've also added a link to the February 1979 EIS for the Wild and Scenic River designation, which contains information about the end of consideration for Wyoming 292 to be extended further west to link with Wyoming 296. The EIS also notes the plans at that time were to extend Wyoming 296 over Dead Indian Summit.

https://www.fws.gov/rivers/sites/rivers/files/2023-02/yellowstone-study-environmental-statement.pdf

Page 7:

QuoteAccess into the general area of the Clarks Fork River is good, although immediate access to the river is limited. Wyoming Highway #296 parallels the western two-thirds of the study area at a distance of one to two miles from the river. Wyoming Highway #292 provides access to the east end of the Lower Canyon, terminating approximately three-fourths of a mile inside the study area boundary. Forest Development Road #119 is a primitive road requiring the use of high clearance vehicles. There are two unimproved roads to the Upper Canyon along either side of Crandall Creek on Forest Service land which provide access to the confluence of Crandall Creek and the Clarks Fork River. Both of these roads also require the use of high clearance vehicles.

Page 24:

QuoteA proposed highway from the mouth of the canyon west to a junction with Wyoming #296 was rejected by the Wyoming Highway Department in the Final Environmental Statement for the Clarks Fork Canyon Road (Wyoming Highway Department, 1973). This proposed highway would have been a westward extension to Wyoming #292. Wyoming Highway #296 will be constructed over Dead Indian Hill. This route will meet transportation needs identified in the Clarks Fork Canyon Road proposal.

Map: https://maps.app.goo.gl/GALE7xbk46NLrG5w6
Regards,
Andy

www.aaroads.com

pderocco

Having driven it, I'm rather glad we ended up with the Chief Joseph Scenic Byway instead.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: pderocco on July 27, 2026, 11:53:38 PMHaving driven it, I'm rather glad we ended up with the Chief Joseph Scenic Byway instead.

Which is almost as awesome of a drive as the Beartooth without much of the notoriety.

andy3175

#215
This article provides a history on how Interstate 90 near Sundance, Wyo., was rerouted around the Vore Buffalo Jump, a 200-foot sinkhole with a 20-foot layer of bison bones:

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/09/12/200-foot-sinkhole-with-20-000-buffalo-jump-bones-forced-i-90-to-re-route-in-1969/

Vore Buffalo Jump is located on Old U.S. 14 between Exit 199 (Wyo. 111/Aladdin) and Exit 205 (Beulah).

QuoteIt was 1969. WYDOT was working with the federal government to design the best route for I-90 across northern Wyoming, which meant extensive surveying and eminent domain.

The Vore family had been homesteading on that land since the 1880s. Using eminent domain, a portion of their land became federal property for the construction of I-90.

"The service road that goes by the site now was to be the westbound lane of the interstate," Theodore Vore told Cowboy State Daily. "The eastbound lane was to go where the cabin is located today." ...

Recognizing they'd uncovered something unusual, WYDOT engineer Bart Olson brought a box of bones to George Frison, then the Wyoming State Archaeologist, at the University of Wyoming.

From the high quantity of buried bison bones, Frison recognized the sinkhole as the potential site of a buffalo jump, where indigenous tribes hunted and killed bison in mass quantities by driving whole herds off cliffs. ...

It's estimated that the sinkhole contains between 4,000 and 20,000 bison skeletons in addition to numerous other artifacts. More than ten tons of material were excavated and taken to Laramie, where they still reside in UW's Archaeological Repository.

In 1989, the Vore family donated the sinkhole and all its yet-to-be-uncovered artifacts to UW (University of Wyoming).
Regards,
Andy

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andy3175

It has been 25 years since a horrific crash took the lives of eight cross-country team members from the University of Wyoming. This accident helped push the State of Wyoming to widen US 287 to four lanes in several sections to improve safety and reduce chances of head-on collisions. US 287 connects Laramie and the University of Wyoming with Ft. Collins, Denver, and points southward.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/09/16/uw-hasnt-forgotten-8-cross-country-runners-killed-by-drunk-driver-25-years-ago/

QuoteTwenty-five years ago, the University of Wyoming was still reeling five days after with the 9-11 terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people when another tragedy hit closer to home: Eight UW cross country runners were killed in a head-on collision with a drunk driver.

The accident happened on U.S. Highway 287 between Laramie and the Colorado border, on a section infamously known as the "Highway of Death" because of the many lives it has claimed.

After the crash, UW sophomore Anne Hedderman summed up for The Associated Press how the community was coping with the horrific national and local news: "It was blackness upon blackness."

A quarter century later, memories of the eight crash victims who died — Cody Brown, 21, of Hudson; Kyle Johnson, 20, of Riverton; Joshua Jones, 22, of Salem, Oregon; Justin Lambert-Belanger, 20, of Timmins, Ontario; Morgan McLeland, 21, of Gillette; Kevin Salverson, 19, of Cheyenne; Nicholas Schabron, 20, of Laramie; and Shane Shatto, 19, of Douglas — have not faded from memory.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2025/10/25/notorious-highway-of-death-between-laramie-and-ft-collins-keeps-claiming-lives/

QuoteDave Salverson had always hated U.S. Highway 287, the 65-mile stretch of road providing the shortest distance between Laramie, Wyoming, and Fort Collins, Colorado. 

It's the route where he'd nearly been run into a ditch by a reckless driver, and where he was almost demolished by an 18-wheeler skidding across both lanes down a slope of black ice. ...

Kevin Salverson was one of the eight University of Wyoming cross-country runners who died Sept. 16, 2001, in a fatal crash on Highway 287 that left only one survivor – the drunken driver who caused it.

That devastating crash catalyzed a widespread cry for greater highway safety on 287 and still motivates communities and policy-makers across two states.

But even after a variety of safety improvements to both Wyoming and Colorado sections, the route continues to claim lives in alarming numbers. ...

Between 2015 and 2024, the 25-mile stretch of Highway 287 from Laramie to the Colorado state line saw a total of 545 crashes, including 11 fatal crashes resulting in 13 deaths, according to statistics provided by the Wyoming Department of Transportation.

In Colorado, the 30-mile stretch of 287 south of the Wyoming border saw hundreds of crashes, including 13 fatal crashes resulting in 18 deaths, between 2017 and 2024, according to a safety assessment study from the Colorado Department of Transportation.
Regards,
Andy

www.aaroads.com

andy3175

#217
Another highway that has seen fatal accidents is Wyoming 22 over Teton Pass just west of Jackson. A recent article outlines the concerns raised by vehicles having brake troubles going downhill from the summit. WyDOT plans to add more signage and require larger vehicles to conduct brake check areas before descending from Teton Pass.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/09/12/widow-of-teton-pass-crash-victim-vows-this-bloodshed-ends-with-him/

QuoteJavier De Luna Chavez was not a quitter. He survived kidney failure, years of dialysis, a transplant and COVID before he was killed Sept. 2 when the pickup carrying him home careened off Teton Pass and rolled.

His wife, Avilene De Luna, watched Javier fight for his life over the course of a decade. Then he became the third fatality on the steep 10% grade of Wyoming Highway 22 in less than two months. ...

The 41-year-old Colorado father of three died at the scene of the crash after the Ford F-250 he was riding in gained speed descending Teton Pass, crossed the opposite lane of Highway 22, left the road and hit an uphill driveway that launched the truck into the air, according to the Wyoming Highway Patrol.

The truck rolled over the driveway before coming down on its side.

De Luna said Javier had recently spent more than $500 upgrading the pickup's brakes for hauling.

She believes the extreme 10% grade descent overwhelmed those upgraded brakes, though the Wyoming Highway Patrol investigation remains ongoing and has not publicly determined the truck's mechanical condition or precisely what caused it to gain speed. ...

Teton Pass has been the focus of an escalating safety debate throughout the summer.

On July 7, a dump truck hauling asphalt came down the east side of the pass near milepost 6.8 and crashed into a string of vehicles after losing its brakes, killing 66-year-old Nicholas Besobrasow of Tetonia, Idaho, and 57-year-old David Page of Mammoth Lakes, California.

Witnesses saw smoke pouring from the truck's brakes as it accelerated down the sustained 10% grade.

The Highway Patrol initially described the wreck as a brake failure.

After an investigation, however, a trooper concluded the brakes faded because the driver overused them while descending too fast, rather than because of a mechanical defect. ...

The Wyoming Department of Transportation announced two days after Javier's death on Sept. 4 that crews will begin upgrading roadside signage on Teton Pass beginning Sept. 21.

New "Must Stop Brake Check" signs will go up at the summit, while "No Parking" signs will be added at the gravel escape ramp and vehicle arrester system.

Existing warnings for "sharp curves," "steep grades" and "stay in low gear" will also be changed so they address "All Vehicles," rather than only truckers.

WYDOT is also designing map-style signs showing the grade, restrictions and an alternate route through Swan Valley. Those are planned for the scale house, state line and summit turnout.

"We have about 50 signs from the state line to Wilson informing drivers of steep grades and to use low gear," WYDOT District 3 Traffic Engineer Darin Kaufman said in announcing the work.

WYDOT also stresses that drivers themselves remain a critical part of the equation: buckle up, slow down, obey speed limits and use a low gear on steep descents.

Two other recent articles discuss accidents on the Teton Pass grade:

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/09/02/dump-truck-driver-could-get-2-years-for-causing-double-fatal-teton-pass-crash/

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/09/03/its-become-normal-latest-teton-pass-crash-launches-truck-kills-colorado-man/
Regards,
Andy

www.aaroads.com

andy3175



Milepost 307 on Interstate 80 was stolen frequently enough that it was replaced with a Milepost 306.99 sign. 307 is the only area code in Wyoming.

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/08/29/wyomings-lone-307-mile-marker-was-stolen-so-often-on-i-80-it-is-now-306-99/

QuoteA problem that has plagued several other states, including Colorado, Washington and Idaho, is the theft of "420" mile markers by marijuana users/fans who associate the number with cannabis culture.

Young said I-80, the longest highway in the state, stops at mile marker 401 east of Pine Bluffs.

Interstate 25 stops just shy of 307 miles. I-25's northern terminus at Buffalo is at mile marker 300.5, at the junction of Interstate 90.

U.S. Highway 20 runs for 434 miles across Wyoming but does not have a 307 mile marker because it blends with other highways, including U.S. 14, U.S. 16, U.S. 26 and I-25.

Montana has had a similar issue with thefts of 406 mile markers, an iconic number because it's the area code. The state initially tried 405.9 on I-90 just west of Columbus but that was taken, too, so the Department of Transportation gave up and painted "406" in white on the shoulder.
Regards,
Andy

www.aaroads.com

pderocco

Doing a brake check isn't going to accomplish much if the driver doesn't know enough to use a low gear. You can start out with perfect brakes, and have them fade completely by the bottom of the hill.

kphoger

Quote from: pderocco on September 20, 2026, 12:39:19 AMDoing a brake check isn't going to accomplish much if the driver doesn't know enough to use a low gear. You can start out with perfect brakes, and have them fade completely by the bottom of the hill.

Driving down a steep hill into John Brown Canyon in far western Colorado, in a 2007 Nissan Pathfinder, I felt my brakes start to fade and was fortunately able to pull over and let them cool a while.  Because it was an automatic transmission, it hadn't even occurred to me to use a lower gear.

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Rothman

Quote from: kphoger on September 21, 2026, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: pderocco on September 20, 2026, 12:39:19 AMDoing a brake check isn't going to accomplish much if the driver doesn't know enough to use a low gear. You can start out with perfect brakes, and have them fade completely by the bottom of the hill.

Driving down a steep hill into John Brown Canyon in far western Colorado, in a 2007 Nissan Pathfinder, I felt my brakes start to fade and was fortunately able to pull over and let them cool a while.  Because it was an automatic transmission, it hadn't even occurred to me to use a lower gear.

So, only PRND for you. :D
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

andy3175

Historic US 87 signs were posted in Chugwater in 2023. Found mostly along what is now Business I-25 (Wyo Hwy 321) and the old section of US 87 south of the business loop, 10 signs were posted in various locations in and around the town. Between 1926 and 1936, the section of US 87 between Cheyenne and Orin Junction was designated as US 185.

https://historicus87.com/

Regards,
Andy

www.aaroads.com

pderocco

Quote from: andy3175 on September 26, 2026, 01:07:31 AMHistoric US 87 signs were posted in Chugwater in 2023. Found mostly along what is now Business I-25 (Wyo Hwy 321) and the old section of US 87 south of the business loop, 10 signs were posted in various locations in and around the town. Between 1926 and 1936, the section of US 87 between Cheyenne and Orin Junction was designated as US 185.

https://historicus87.com/


I saw those on my recent trip. I wonder why this forlorn place is where they put up signs, and not in Wheatland or Douglas or Buffalo?

andy3175

Quote from: pderocco on September 26, 2026, 02:28:01 AMI saw those on my recent trip. I wonder why this forlorn place is where they put up signs, and not in Wheatland or Douglas or Buffalo?

The signs were funded by the town. A caption near one of the historic route marker photos states, thanks to the "generosity of the Chugwater Economic Development Committee for purchasing in the signs, and the Town of Chugwater." But yeah it would be great if the other towns and cities along US 87 also posted the old route, both on the state highway and county/city route segments.
Regards,
Andy

www.aaroads.com