Groups that do well after a key musician or vocalist leaves

[roadman65]

I know this is the reverse of what I started, but what is the difference between Wham and George Michael?  To me they are the same, but I heard (and was considered) a group spite the fact it was only two people in it.  Now Steely Dan, Air Supply, America, and others were two man bands, but you have both artists contributing.  I know that George Michael, does not have any talent so he was the vocals exclusively as there were no back round vocals either.  Then you had to have uncredited studio musicians  to make the musical sounds and whoever else was considered Wham with George Michael had to be one of a few.  Post Wham you never even heard of the other person, only the man who changed a certain practice that only women did prior to his debut what many men (especially the NFL) do now.

To me I consider all things sung by Michael as by him.  Just like one user who considers two other users here who both were known to ask silly forum questions to be the same, I consider both of these artists to be the same until I see reason to differentiate.

I could've sworn that Andrew Ridgely (yes, the other person in Wham!) did vocals as well.

Maybe, I only heard songs like What She Wants, Careless Whisper, Last Christmas, and Wake Me Up which feature only Michael.  If he did it was the in between songs or other hits that quickly faded out soon that are not played.

[Stephane Dumas]

Does the Rolling Stones with the death of Brian Jones would fit the category? They adapted to the 1970s and 1980s music.

[kurumi]

The 1980s ('84 to '88 specifically) just killed a lot of great rock bands. They continuing releasing albums, but the spark was gone. Compare the 1970s work vs. mid-1980s work for Heart, Van Halen, Rush, Yes, Genesis, ELP ... yergh.

[roadman65]

Does the Rolling Stones with the death of Brian Jones would fit the category? They adapted to the 1970s and 1980s music.

Actually that is a good example.  They aquired Mick Taylor, Ron Wood, and lost Bill Wyneman.  Look at them now.

[agentsteel53]

only the man who changed a certain practice that only women did prior to his debut what many men (especially the NFL) do now.

wait, what?  I cannot, for the life of me, decipher this sentence.

[NE2]

only the man who changed a certain practice that only women did prior to his debut what many men (especially the NFL) do now.

wait, what?  I cannot, for the life of me, decipher this sentence.

I think he's talking about dogfighting.

[agentsteel53]

only the man who changed a certain practice that only women did prior to his debut what many men (especially the NFL) do now.

wait, what?  I cannot, for the life of me, decipher this sentence.

I think he's talking about dogfighting.

that was invented by Andrew Ridgeley, aka the Red Baron.

[roadman65]

only the man who changed a certain practice that only women did prior to his debut what many men (especially the NFL) do now.

wait, what?  I cannot, for the life of me, decipher this sentence.

Back in the 80's men could not wear a certain something in one ear, or else they would get pegged as a certain group.  He was the one that broke that barrier and he did raise some contraversy.  Although not like Mr.  Christian artist Charlie Daniels who was the one that broke the song censorship barrier with the famous line " I told you once you son of a bitch, I'm the best there has ever been!", but some people made fun of Mr. Michael until Mr. T did the same thing.

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

only the man who changed a certain practice that only women did prior to his debut what many men (especially the NFL) do now.

wait, what?  I cannot, for the life of me, decipher this sentence.

Back in the 80's men could not wear a certain something in one ear, or else they would get pegged as a certain group.  He was the one that broke that barrier and he did raise some contraversy.  Although not like Mr.  Christian artist Charlie Daniels who was the one that broke the song censorship barrier with the famous line " I told you once you son of a bitch, I'm the best there has ever been!", but some people made fun of Mr. Michael until Mr. T did the same thing.

George Michael = Mr. Clean?

[Alps]

Are you forgetting the words "earring" and "gay"?

[relaxok]

Blood, Sweat, & Tears switched out Al Kooper for David-Clayton Thomas After their first album.

The debut album was 100x better than anything that came after it, so to me this doesn't fit the bill.  They did much better commercially I guess, but were definitely worse.

[relaxok]

I know that George Michael, does not have any talent so he was the vocals exclusively as there were no back round vocals either.  Then you had to have uncredited studio musicians  to make the musical sounds and whoever else was considered Wham with George Michael had to be one of a few. 

This is literally the most absurd thing I've ever seen written about music on a website.

George Michael has written almost ALL of his songs, and arranged and played nearly every instrument on the Faith album, which had 5 top 10 singles.  He is in fact famous as essentially a one-man band.

Now you know.

[Alps]

I know that George Michael, does not have any talent so he was the vocals exclusively as there were no back round vocals either.  Then you had to have uncredited studio musicians  to make the musical sounds and whoever else was considered Wham with George Michael had to be one of a few. 

This is literally the most absurd thing I've ever seen written about music on a website.

The Beatles were raspberry totem poles on the meringue experience of the underinflated velodrome.

There, that's considerably more absurd.

[texaskdog]

Deep Purple's best era was the Mk II lineup with Ian Gillan as the singer.

Black Sabbath was never the same after Ozzy left, although I liked the "Born Again" album with Gillan as the vocalist.

Terry Kath's death, to me, was also the death of Chicago.

I always thought Kiss did just fine without Frehley and Criss.

Van Halen wasn't the same without DLR, it will be interesting to hear the new album.

Bon Scott era AC/DC > Brian Johnson era AC/DC

Kiss is nothing without Ace

[formulanone]

The Beatles were raspberry totem poles on the meringue experience of the underinflated velodrome.

There, that's considerably more absurd.

No, that actually kind of sort of makes sense, but only if we're talking about The Beatles.

...I'll take my poser hat off now.

[texaskdog]

would be interesting to think what would have happened had Epstein not died

[hm insulators]

The Who stayed level after Keith Moon's death.

Debatable.

I never liked anything The Who did after Keith Moon died. And now that John Entwistle is also gone, do Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey really need to keep playing with half a band?

[Laura]

Oh Genesis... <3

I have to admit that I like pretty much every era of Genesis (excluding the Calling All Stations album). As much as people want to hate on them getting soft in the 80's, the songwriting contributions were pretty even across the board from Banks/Collins/Rutherford. And their solo projects sounded similar with slight deviations because they mostly helped each other out and were "solo" only because one member was missing from it.

My favorite era is post-Gabriel but with Hackett, with A Trick of the Tail being my favorite album. There's something about it that draws all of the emotions out of me...

[roadman65]

Oh Genesis... <3

I have to admit that I like pretty much every era of Genesis (excluding the Calling All Stations album). As much as people want to hate on them getting soft in the 80's, the songwriting contributions were pretty even across the board from Banks/Collins/Rutherford. And their solo projects sounded similar with slight deviations because they mostly helped each other out and were "solo" only because one member was missing from it.

My favorite era is post-Gabriel but with Hackett, with A Trick of the Tail being my favorite album. There's something about it that draws all of the emotions out of me...

Tony Banks had a solo album?  I was not aware.  I always knew Phil did and of course Mike and the Mechanics.  I never knew that each helped each other out on solo projects, except on I Don't Care Anymore it does sound like Tony Banks played keyboards on it considering it does sound a lot like Man On The Corner.

[Takumi]

Tony Banks had a solo album?  I was not aware.  I always knew Phil did and of course Mike and the Mechanics.  I never knew that each helped each other out on solo projects, except on I Don't Care Anymore it does sound like Tony Banks played keyboards on it considering it does sound a lot like Man On The Corner.

Peter Gabriel also performed backing vocals on Phil's song "Take Me Home" from No Jacket Required.

[blawp]

Cobra Starship took off after Elisa Jordana left.

[golden eagle]

No Doubt didn't achieve success until after founding member Eric Stefani (Gwen's brother) left.

[kendancy66]

Fleetwood Mac were more successful after the time that Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined, and Peter Green left.  I think there are a lot of their fans that who don't know who Peter Green is.

[OracleUsr]

The new Alice in Chains stuff isn't bad, but not like songs such as The Rooster or Would?

Van Hagar...I almost would say they didn't have anything good, but the obscene-acronym album of 1991 did have some good hits on it.