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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2000 on: August 01, 2018, 07:43:43 PM »

Wasn't there some project to make US70 a freeway somewhere near there? I can't remember if it was near I-540 or I-440.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2001 on: August 01, 2018, 10:29:55 PM »

Wasn't there some project to make US70 a freeway somewhere near there? I can't remember if it was near I-540 or I-440.

Yes, between I-540 and the East End Connector.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/community/durham-news/article103937111.html
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2002 on: August 02, 2018, 05:23:55 PM »

Heads up: NCDOT will make an announcement tomorrow concerning improvements to the interchange of I-440/US 1 (Raleigh Beltline)and Glenwood Avenue (US 70). This is a big deal.

The announcement:

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-02-i-440-improvements.aspx
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2003 on: August 03, 2018, 06:51:33 PM »

Heads up: NCDOT will make an announcement tomorrow concerning improvements to the interchange of I-440/US 1 (Raleigh Beltline)and Glenwood Avenue (US 70). This is a big deal.

The announcement:

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-02-i-440-improvements.aspx

This is the current interchange: https://goo.gl/maps/cqcGyfhnJrT2
A SPUI perhaps?
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2004 on: August 06, 2018, 12:56:57 PM »

A public meeting is being held on August 9 to discuss widening the 2-lane stretch of US-17 between NC-171 near Washington and Williamston.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-06-public-input-us-17.aspx
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2005 on: August 06, 2018, 04:26:22 PM »

A public meeting is being held on August 9 to discuss widening the 2-lane stretch of US-17 between NC-171 near Washington and Williamston.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-06-public-input-us-17.aspx

I can see why this is warranted. While I didn't observe any heavy traffic here the last time I came through (May 2016), there were still delays due to the lack of turn lanes along this stretch. Pretty frustrating.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2006 on: August 06, 2018, 06:22:52 PM »

A public meeting is being held on August 9 to discuss widening the 2-lane stretch of US-17 between NC-171 near Washington and Williamston.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-06-public-input-us-17.aspx

I can see why this is warranted. While I didn't observe any heavy traffic here the last time I came through (May 2016), there were still delays due to the lack of turn lanes along this stretch. Pretty frustrating.

Since the entire length of US 17 in NC is part of NCDOT's "master plan" for freeway improvement, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this is only only of a series of projects to deploy at least expressway-level improvements along that corridor; when completed, further upgrades can be applied as needed.  My guess: it'll be 4-lane divided (although I'll bet some of the interim towns will push for "5-lane" arterials in their vicinity) all the way from Wilmington to Williamston by 2030 to 2035.  Of course, this is if NCDOT and local promoters don't just say "screw it, let's just build another Interstate down 17!" at some point.   It's NC, so it's not outside the realm of possibility!
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2007 on: August 06, 2018, 06:44:02 PM »

A public meeting is being held on August 9 to discuss widening the 2-lane stretch of US-17 between NC-171 near Washington and Williamston.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-06-public-input-us-17.aspx

I can see why this is warranted. While I didn't observe any heavy traffic here the last time I came through (May 2016), there were still delays due to the lack of turn lanes along this stretch. Pretty frustrating.

Since the entire length of US 17 in NC is part of NCDOT's "master plan" for freeway improvement, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this is only only of a series of projects to deploy at least expressway-level improvements along that corridor; when completed, further upgrades can be applied as needed.  My guess: it'll be 4-lane divided (although I'll bet some of the interim towns will push for "5-lane" arterials in their vicinity) all the way from Wilmington to Williamston by 2030 to 2035.  Of course, this is if NCDOT and local promoters don't just say "screw it, let's just build another Interstate down 17!" at some point.   It's NC, so it's not outside the realm of possibility!
This proposal is for "smart street" design, with no left turns onto NC 17 permitted. I expect this is the model for most of the rest of US 17; we'll probably see proposals to redo some of the existing 4-lane sections (such as those in Brunswick County between Wilmington and the SC line) to this format. IMO any idea of converting the whole of US 17 in NC to an interstate is far in the future, if it ever comes at all.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2008 on: August 06, 2018, 07:48:51 PM »

http://www.wfae.org/post/contractor-says-i-77-tolls-will-open-year-end-not-some-ramps#stream/0

So the loudest opposition is from those in North Meck who blow more money on a cup of coffee than it will take to travel the entire length? LOL
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2009 on: August 07, 2018, 08:56:06 AM »

http://www.wfae.org/post/contractor-says-i-77-tolls-will-open-year-end-not-some-ramps#stream/0

So the loudest opposition is from those in North Meck who blow more money on a cup of coffee than it will take to travel the entire length? LOL

So will EZ-Pass work if and when this is done and tolls are activated?

That contractor is pretty optimistic about the completion of this mess. In various trips through that project, it looks like a lot of the work was done at random depending on the whims of some manager with a dart board.
 
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2010 on: August 07, 2018, 09:24:15 AM »

http://www.wfae.org/post/contractor-says-i-77-tolls-will-open-year-end-not-some-ramps#stream/0

So the loudest opposition is from those in North Meck who blow more money on a cup of coffee than it will take to travel the entire length? LOL

So will EZ-Pass work if and when this is done and tolls are activated?

That contractor is pretty optimistic about the completion of this mess. In various trips through that project, it looks like a lot of the work was done at random depending on the whims of some manager with a dart board.
 

To answer question 1, yes, EZ-Pass is compatible. But it is a different transponder, which can still be purchased by NC Turnpike Authority (cost is $7.40, there is a free version which works in NC, FL, GA- that is the one I elected to order)

To your second point, I couldn’t have said it better myself! I have pictures documented on Facebook group FreewayJim and SE Roads, and live smack dab in the middle of it (Huntersville). I’m so ready for it to open!!! Ugghhhh
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2011 on: August 07, 2018, 11:58:42 AM »

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2012 on: August 08, 2018, 05:41:19 PM »

A public meeting is being held on August 9 to discuss widening the 2-lane stretch of US-17 between NC-171 near Washington and Williamston.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-06-public-input-us-17.aspx

I can see why this is warranted. While I didn't observe any heavy traffic here the last time I came through (May 2016), there were still delays due to the lack of turn lanes along this stretch. Pretty frustrating.

Since the entire length of US 17 in NC is part of NCDOT's "master plan" for freeway improvement, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this is only only of a series of projects to deploy at least expressway-level improvements along that corridor; when completed, further upgrades can be applied as needed.  My guess: it'll be 4-lane divided (although I'll bet some of the interim towns will push for "5-lane" arterials in their vicinity) all the way from Wilmington to Williamston by 2030 to 2035.  Of course, this is if NCDOT and local promoters don't just say "screw it, let's just build another Interstate down 17!" at some point.   It's NC, so it's not outside the realm of possibility!

$80 million to widen ten miles of highway that averaged less than 6,000 vehicles per day in 2016. No wonder they have to build toll lanes in Charlotte: gotta keep sending money down east! (oink, oink)
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2013 on: August 08, 2018, 06:40:15 PM »

https://www.ncquickpass.com/resources/Pages/nc-quickpass-transponders.aspx

Specifics of NC Quick Pass Transponders
Interesting, along with a fresh coat of paint, it appears that NC Quick Pass are rolling out a new hard-case transponder design:


In addition, it looks like NC will be offering a FLEX option soon (though this is the only reference to it that I can find on the site):

Quote from: FAQ
Will my transponder work outside of North Carolina?
The NC Quick Pass sticker works on all North Carolina toll facilities and on SunPass and Peach Pass facilities in Florida and Georgia.
The NC Quick Pass E-ZPass works on all North Carolina toll roads, SunPass and Peach Pass facilities as well as E-ZPass toll facilities in other states.
The NC Quick Pass E-ZPass Flex works on all toll roads and express lanes in North Carolina as well as SunPass, Peach Pass and E-ZPass toll facilities. You can use this transponder to declare HOV status and drive for free on North Carolina Express Lanes when you meet the occupancy requirements posted on the road.

I wonder if this will work on GDOT and VDOT flex lanes. If so, I think I may exchange my current transponder.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2014 on: August 08, 2018, 07:08:17 PM »

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I wonder if this will work on GDOT and VDOT flex lanes. If so, I think I may exchange my current transponder.

Any EZPass-compatible transponder will work in the VDOT HO/T lanes.  But you will get charged unless you have a specific VDOT Flex transponder being used in flex mode (because you're in a carpool).
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2015 on: August 08, 2018, 08:40:31 PM »



Looks like the casing used by the current Kapsch "G4" E-ZPass transponders.



Wonder if they are making multi-protocol hard case variants for NCDOT now, or NCDOT is just transmitting the IAG protocol signal from the hard cased transponders.

http://www.traffictechnologytoday.com/news.php?NewsID=87031
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2016 on: August 08, 2018, 09:47:49 PM »

For reference, here is the current hard-case transponder issued by NCDOT (at least as of mid-2016 when I got mine):


(modified to remove personal info)

I suspect that the hard-case option used by NCDOT is more or less just an active device transmitting the IAG signal paired with a passive component that works with the NC, GA, and FL systems. In theory, a similar effect could be achieved by sticking one of the sticker transponders on the back of an E-Z Pass (though I'm pretty sure it's a bit more technically complex than that).

That's why I'm interested in the smaller size of the new hard cases. Supposedly interoperability with Texas (and possibly OK and KS) is coming soon, and I'm wondering if this may be a part of it.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2017 on: August 08, 2018, 10:48:35 PM »

For reference, here is the current hard-case transponder issued by NCDOT (at least as of mid-2016 when I got mine):


(modified to remove personal info)

I suspect that the hard-case option used by NCDOT is more or less just an active device transmitting the IAG signal paired with a passive component that works with the NC, GA, and FL systems. In theory, a similar effect could be achieved by sticking one of the sticker transponders on the back of an E-Z Pass (though I'm pretty sure it's a bit more technically complex than that).

That's why I'm interested in the smaller size of the new hard cases. Supposedly interoperability with Texas (and possibly OK and KS) is coming soon, and I'm wondering if this may be a part of it.


I'm hoping the free transponder is interoperable with TX but it's not like I drive to Texas often lol (when I've gone I have flown anyways)

Side note- I drove to Atlanta two weeks ago, just after receiving my QuickPass transponder. I used the express lanes (it was late late, after midnight) just to experiment the transponder. ~10 days later I still haven't seen the transaction post to my account. Will I get a bill from Georgia?
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2018 on: August 09, 2018, 09:23:31 AM »


In addition, it looks like NC will be offering a FLEX option soon (though this is the only reference to it that I can find on the site):

Quote from: FAQ
Will my transponder work outside of North Carolina?
The NC Quick Pass sticker works on all North Carolina toll facilities and on SunPass and Peach Pass facilities in Florida and Georgia.
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The NC Quick Pass E-ZPass Flex works on all toll roads and express lanes in North Carolina as well as SunPass, Peach Pass and E-ZPass toll facilities. You can use this transponder to declare HOV status and drive for free on North Carolina Express Lanes when you meet the occupancy requirements posted on the road.


So did North Carolina do a deal with Florida so its E-ZPass system will work with SunPass?

A quick search on "ezpass florida" turned up this article from last August in the Tampa paper that responds to a reader's question, "When is the Florida DOT going to accept E-ZPass on its toll roads? Orlando's Central Expressway accepts it."

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The time frame for this to happen, if it ever does, remains elusive. We asked the Department of Transportation to fill us in on this frequently asked reader question back in June. After six weeks and an additional nudge, we heard back from Chad Huff, spokesperson for Florida's Turnpike Enterprise, who told us that Florida's SunPass is accepted in Georgia and North Carolina, and will be accepted in South Carolina soon (no date provided).

But in terms of SunPass and E-ZPass becoming what is referred to as "interoperable," Huff said things are complicated.

"Efforts are continuing to make SunPass interoperable with E-ZPass, however given the fact that the E-Z Pass consortium represents nearly 40 different tolling agencies, it makes the necessary cooperation with that group extremely complicated. In the meantime, SunPass has made the hardware and software upgrades necessary and stands ready to accept E-ZPass transponders when the time comes," Huff said last week.

When that time might be is murky at best.

(see https://www.tampabay.com/news/transportation/roads/no-compatibility-in-sight-for-e-zpass-and-florida-toll-system/2334589)

An article from back in November in the Orlando paper says "The E-ZPasses will be functional on toll roads managed by the Central Florida Expressway Authority: 118 miles on State Roads 408, 414, 417, 429, 451, 528 and 429. They will not work on toll roads managed by the Florida Department of Transportation, like Florida’s Turnpike."

So where is the hang-up in accepting Florida EPass in other states or E-ZPass in Florida? It appears North Carolina and some other states have figured it out. Is it a case of equipment (note "SunPass has made the hardware and software upgrades") or resistance/reluctance?

Bruce in Blacksburg (who would like to ditch one of two epass accounts)
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2019 on: August 09, 2018, 11:13:01 AM »


An article from back in November in the Orlando paper says "The E-ZPasses will be functional on toll roads managed by the Central Florida Expressway Authority: 118 miles on State Roads 408, 414, 417, 429, 451, 528 and 429. They will not work on toll roads managed by the Florida Department of Transportation, like Florida’s Turnpike."

So where is the hang-up in accepting Florida EPass in other states or E-ZPass in Florida? It appears North Carolina and some other states have figured it out. Is it a case of equipment (note "SunPass has made the hardware and software upgrades") or resistance/reluctance?

Bruce in Blacksburg (who would like to ditch one of two epass accounts)


To my understanding (again, I'm having trouble with having used my NC Quick Pass in Georgia recently) is that the NC Quick Pass is good with the Florida Sun Pass apart from the EZPass program.

Any Florida residents who can help with this?? TIA
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2020 on: August 09, 2018, 01:01:26 PM »

NC Quick Pass hardcase is the only transponder that is interoperable in both the northeast (EZ-Pass) and Southeast (Florida/Georgia). I think I read that South Carolina, Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas are in the works as well.

That said, when I went to Florida about three years ago, there were some places where it was read successfully, but others where it was not. In particular, on highway 528 between Orlando and the beach, the pass was not being read. I drove through the toll pass lanes a couple times but the light never flashed indicating that it was read. So rather than get in trouble, I figured I must have misunderstood something and paid cash at the next gate.

When I got home, however, several weeks later, I got some charges (For the correct transponder rate, no fines) on my NC Quick Pass account from when I had gone through the gates. (The transponder number listed on the line item for the charge was my license plate number.) So there were some gates where they just didn't have the correct transponder in place and had to bill by my license plate.

As I understand it, there are actually two separate toll systems in Florida, SunPass and E-Pass, both of which have interop agreements with NC. All the SunPass gates can read the NC transponders just fine, but not all of the E-Pass gates could (yet) so they just decided to bill by license plate.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2021 on: August 09, 2018, 04:34:33 PM »

As I understand it, there are actually two separate toll systems in Florida, SunPass and E-Pass, both of which have interop agreements with NC. All the SunPass gates can read the NC transponders just fine, but not all of the E-Pass gates could (yet) so they just decided to bill by license plate.

My hope is that this is how it will shake out with PeachPass gates in Atlanta.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2022 on: August 10, 2018, 06:47:12 PM »

On Tuesday NCDOT will hold a public hearing on possible improvements to Exit 21 of Future I-26 north of Asheville.
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-10-opinions-buncombe-options.aspx

Actually the work mostly involves the intersection of Weaverville and New Stock Roads adjacent to the interchange. The link to the maps is missing, but here is where they are:
https://www.ncdot.gov/news/public-meetings/Pages/U-5973-2018-08-14.aspx

The current situation can be seen here: https://goo.gl/maps/z4NCRKBjxHM2

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #2023 on: August 21, 2018, 05:51:29 AM »

A public meeting is being held in Lumberton on August 28 to discuss rebuilding the I-95/Carthage Road interchange (Exit 19).

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2018/2018-08-20-lumberton-i-95-exit-19-open-house.aspx
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Re: North Carolina
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