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I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« on: May 28, 2009, 04:28:19 PM »

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/251/story/731951.html  HOT lanes could soon be coming to I-85 in Gwinnett County to help those that want to see the Gwinnett Braves pay a toll to get there faster :-D(this could be a part of it)
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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2009, 04:46:34 PM »

Man, there are already like 14 - 16 lanes through there.

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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 04:49:41 PM »

Man, there are already like 14 - 16 lanes through there.

The article said that they are tolling (converting) existing HOV lanes.  So, there should be no new lanes there.
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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 10:39:40 PM »

I heard about that on the news. I don't like that, tolling lanes built with public monies. I'm not sure if anyone would pay for using the HOV lanes, when some are using them illegally already.


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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 07:28:46 AM »

Experience elsewhere indicates that:

A) violation rate drops with converting HOV to HO/T.

B) there are some people who would pay a toll to avoid congestion, because they value their time greater than that of the toll.

HO/T lanes include variable-rate pricing...which (most of the time) guarnatees free-flow in the HO/T lanes.  HOVs of course can ride for free and not have to worry about the toll at all.
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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2009, 04:36:47 AM »

I don't think this is necessarily a bad idea. I mean, HOV-lanes are often underused in terms of capacity compared with the main lanes, and now they're gonna open the HOV lane for people who want to bypass the congestion and are willing to pay tolls for that.

I wonder if there will be variable tolls based on actual traffic density like they have proposed in Los Angeles. They could be as high as $ 1 per mile, so I think they should be called CEO-lanes.

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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2009, 08:21:03 AM »

Yes, the tolls would be variably priced to ensure free-flow or nearly free-flow in the lanes.

But to call them "CEO-lanes" or "Lexus Lanes" (the term commonly used by opponents on this side of the pond) is a misnomer.  One recent study of already existing HO/T lanes (not sure if it was I-15 in San Diego or I-394 in Minneapolis) shows that only 25% of toll payers are of the wealthy variety.  A vast majority are regular middle-class Joe Shmoe's...
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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 01:25:20 AM »

Chris, all the lanes stay crowded. I used to live in Gwinnett so I know by experience.
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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2009, 03:07:10 PM »

Yeah, they are pretty crowded, and I don't particuarly use them. Because, in my opinion, they don't move any quicker than the general purpose lanes, even when there's a bottleneck. If and when they're converted to toll lanes, I won't use them, because I'm not paying to use a lane on an otherwise free freeway.


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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2009, 07:44:46 PM »

It doesn't matter what kind of lanes you put on 85 and it will still be congested. I lived in Duluth and worked off Jimmy Carter Boulevard in Norcross and it was a good day if I got there in less than 40 minutes. And that's a distance of about seven miles (coming from GA 120)!
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Re: I-85(Gwinnett County, GA)
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2009, 08:25:37 PM »

^^ I've been caught in traffic up there -- it's ridiculous!


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