Signed "City Routes"

Started by Buck87, October 23, 2013, 12:25:29 PM

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Buck87

When Fremont, Ohio got a bypass, all of the routes that used to go through town were realigned onto it. Instead of having some sort of business route signed through town for US 20 or 6, the city came up with its own "city route" signs to mark the streets that ALL of the old routes used to take. It just uses a plain number, regardless of whether it was a US or state route, and they are only signed within the city limits.

As far as I know this is a pretty unique setup. Is there anywhere else that does something like this?


Here are a few pics I took there last week:





On this last one the arrow for 19 and 20 should be pointing both ways instead of just right:



And here's a link with some more info on this, with some pics from 2002.
http://www.roadfan.com/fremont.html


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agentsteel53

good lord, are there any signs remaining with the correct font?

I was there in 2006 and the signs were correct.

as for city routes in general, CITY ROUTE (and occasionally just CITY) is an old synonym for BUSINESS. plenty of examples exist, mainly in the midwest.




still in the wild - it's supposed to be US-61, btw.

Belle Fourche, SD uses a simple square for the city route of US-212.  there are other examples with very plain signs (squares with numbers on them) but I can't recall offhand where. 
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NE2

Arkansas used a C suffix for these. There might be one or two remaining on state highways.

As for the bare bones design: Woonsignage.
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SD Mapman

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 23, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
Belle Fourche, SD uses a simple square for the city route of US-212.  there are other examples with very plain signs (squares with numbers on them) but I can't recall offhand where. 
And it's freakin ugly... but it is Belle Fourche, you can't expect too much.
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agentsteel53

Quote from: SD Mapman on October 23, 2013, 04:15:28 PM
And it's freakin ugly... but it is Belle Fourche, you can't expect too much.

eh.  it's a plain square with a number in it.  too bland to be either attractive or unattractive.  it's ... a square.

what's wrong with Belle Fourche?  I've been through there but have never stopped, but I figured it to be just another average farming town.  perhaps the square for it is oddly appropriate!
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Alps

Honorable mention to Birmingham's Truck Routes, which were (are?) signed by the city:


SD Mapman

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 23, 2013, 05:41:40 PM
what's wrong with Belle Fourche?  I've been through there but have never stopped, but I figured it to be just another average farming town.  perhaps the square for it is oddly appropriate!
I'm from Spearfish... so everything.
The traveler sees what he sees, the tourist sees what he has come to see. - G.K. Chesterton

Dr Frankenstein

Winnipeg has city routes, as do Kingston and Cornwall in Ontario. Ottawa also has numbered city routes, but they're hardly signed at all even though they appear on maps.

agentsteel53

Quote from: SD Mapman on October 24, 2013, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 23, 2013, 05:41:40 PM
what's wrong with Belle Fourche?  I've been through there but have never stopped, but I figured it to be just another average farming town.  perhaps the square for it is oddly appropriate!
I'm from Spearfish... so everything.

*shrug?*

is this one of those "Michigan folks hate Ohio folks all because of some prolate spheroid controversy" type deals?
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PHLBOS

Once upon a time in Massachusetts (before 1971), Boston had a network of C (for city) routes that were derivatives/offshoots of their US or state route counterparts.

Does anyone know if this C1/C9 sign along Beacon Street is still there (scroll down for photo)?

http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/boston/
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Brian556

In Plano, Tx, the city has installed FM markers on the decommissioned section of FM 544 through the city. The ones from about 1988 when the decommissioning happened are very good, but new installations are not on spec.

Since this is no longer technically a state road, it would make sense to sign it as "CITY ROUTE 544", using a custom sign with  the city name and logo.

This route does need to be signed for navigational purposes, esp. since it has a few stairsteps.

Molandfreak

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 23, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
Belle Fourche, SD uses a simple square for the city route of US-212.  there are other examples with very plain signs (squares with numbers on them) but I can't recall offhand where.
They should sign it with it's official designation, U.S. 212P. That would be the first signed U.S. route with a P suffix that I know of.

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agentsteel53

what does the "P" stand for?
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 24, 2013, 02:35:35 PM
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 24, 2013, 09:40:59 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 23, 2013, 05:41:40 PM
what's wrong with Belle Fourche?  I've been through there but have never stopped, but I figured it to be just another average farming town.  perhaps the square for it is oddly appropriate!
I'm from Spearfish... so everything.

*shrug?*

is this one of those "Michigan folks hate Ohio folks all because of some prolate spheroid controversy" type deals?
Yes.
Quote from: Molandfreak on October 24, 2013, 04:59:48 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 23, 2013, 12:43:16 PM
Belle Fourche, SD uses a simple square for the city route of US-212.  there are other examples with very plain signs (squares with numbers on them) but I can't recall offhand where.
They should sign it with it's official designation, U.S. 212P. That would be the first signed U.S. route with a P suffix that I know of.
They could, but they have no imagination or sense of style.
The traveler sees what he sees, the tourist sees what he has come to see. - G.K. Chesterton

Molandfreak


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bugo

There's an OK 412P near Fair Oaks that is a spur off of US 412.  It was once OK 33P.

silverback1065

Good for Fremont, if only they could have thought of better looking shields, those are as boiler plate as you can get!

agentsteel53

Quote from: SD Mapman on October 25, 2013, 12:03:46 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 24, 2013, 02:35:35 PM
*shrug?*

is this one of those "Michigan folks hate Ohio folks all because of some prolate spheroid controversy" type deals?
Yes.

weird.

as someone born in Hungary, raised in Boston, and now living in San Diego, I feel genocidal hatred towards Oconomowoc, Wisconsin.  die, Oconomowoc, and have greater variety in your vowels as you do so!
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agentsteel53

Quote from: bugo on October 25, 2013, 12:37:10 AM
There's an OK 412P near Fair Oaks that is a spur off of US 412.  It was once OK 33P.

that's a state route.

I believe there is a NY-9P.
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SD Mapman

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 25, 2013, 09:24:21 AM
Quote from: SD Mapman on October 25, 2013, 12:03:46 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 24, 2013, 02:35:35 PM
*shrug?*

is this one of those "Michigan folks hate Ohio folks all because of some prolate spheroid controversy" type deals?
Yes.

weird.
If you lived here, you'd understand.
Anyway... I tried to design a green shield for the thing based off of this:

It hasn't been working too well.
The traveler sees what he sees, the tourist sees what he has come to see. - G.K. Chesterton

dgolub

Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 25, 2013, 09:25:17 AM
I believe there is a NY-9P.

Yes, there is.  It's up by Saratoga.

dgolub

I've never seen city routes before, but it looks like a pretty cool idea.  I wish New York had them, since the city is so big as to take up five counties and had no route numbers on anything except highways and a few state routes that come in from other areas.



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