New Jersey Turnpike

[PHLBOS]

Was the high-test leaded? I wasn't sure about that one.  I also remember the Sunoco stations that had the dial with 5 or 6 different types.

During the late 70s (possibly even the very early 80s) and back, you better believe it was. 

Sunocos alreadys had several different grades (the old-style pumps indeed had a round knob that one would turn to set towards the desired type), including a lower than normal regular grade.  The only difference between now and then was that the various grades used to be all leaded.

I've heard about that, but by the time I remember, regular was the same as everywhere else, but there was economy (86 I think)

Sunoco's Economy Unleaded was 86 (which is more useless than the standard 87 for today's vehicles but that's another topic for the OT threads); their Economy Leaded, when they used to offer such, was 88.

[MikeSantNY78]

Not to bitch, but when did this discussion of the NJTP disintegrate into a comparison of gas prices? Sure, there's some relevance about funding the road, utilizing whatever Trenton has in mind, but can we get back to the highway itself, please? Would greatly appreciate...

Like, for example, has GSV been able to provide road-level coverage of the new outer carriageways in the 6-9 expansion? Would like to see...

[jeffandnicole]

Haha...hey, topics go off subject occasionally. Just a simple post will bring it back on topic.

As for the GSV, they seem to do specific areas every few years or so. And when they do record a road, it'll be several months before the images are uploaded and available for viewing. 

Even if the GSV drove the outer lanes on day 1, you probably wouldn't see the images until autumn at the earliest.

[Roadrunner75]

Even if the GSV drove the outer lanes on day 1, you probably wouldn't see the images until autumn at the earliest.

So I probably shouldn't bother checking GSV for awhile to see myself waving at exit 109 on the GSP?  At least I already got my internet fame by showing up on GSV in Jersey City last year...

[Zeffy]

Even if the GSV drove the outer lanes on day 1, you probably wouldn't see the images until autumn at the earliest.

So I probably shouldn't bother checking GSV for awhile to see myself waving at exit 109 on the GSP?  At least I already got my internet fame by showing up on GSV in Jersey City last year...

Do link that! The GMSV car captured one of my sisters who no longer lives at my current house as she walked our dog back in 2011. Boy was I shocked when I found that.

[BrianP]

New Jersey sues over Florida pizza shop logo

The New Jersey Turnpike Authority wants a Florida pizza shop to pay a big toll for using a logo similar to the Garden State Parkway's green and yellow signs.

[ATLRedSoxFan]

The new gantry signs don't look bad, but I wish there was some way to include Art-deco in the new gantry design.

[bzakharin]

New Jersey sues over Florida pizza shop logo

The New Jersey Turnpike Authority wants a Florida pizza shop to pay a big toll for using a logo similar to the Garden State Parkway's green and yellow signs.

And they don't care about Tito's Burritos? (http://www.titosburritos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/TB_NJTBmensTee2.jpg)

[MikeSantNY78]

Even if the GSV drove the outer lanes on day 1, you probably wouldn't see the images until autumn at the earliest.

All I wanted to know - thankya kindly...

[Alps]

New Jersey sues over Florida pizza shop logo

The New Jersey Turnpike Authority wants a Florida pizza shop to pay a big toll for using a logo similar to the Garden State Parkway's green and yellow signs.

And they don't care about Tito's Burritos? (http://www.titosburritos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/TB_NJTBmensTee2.jpg)

Now I have to check them out. Morristown's nice and close.

[NJRoadfan]

Now I have to check them out. Morristown's nice and close.

Go to the original in Summit, you will approve of it.

[SignBridge]

Is this all the NJTA's lawyers have to worry about? Everything else at NJTA must be running pretty darned well.

[Pete from Boston]

Is this all the NJTA's lawyers have to worry about? Everything else at NJTA must be running pretty darned well.

Right?

I hope they're not big enough dirtbags to go after WFMU:

[storm2k]

Drove the Turnpike from Exit 12 all the way to the Del Mem Br this past weekend. Kind of boggling how inconsistent they are with the pullthrough signs at each interchange in the expanded dual-dual section now. Some list a city name (keeping with the new MUTCD compliant signing they're going with elsewhere on NJTPA property) but others list THRU TRAFFIC as a control city. I know the decision to go with MUTCD signage came after they started this project, but the fact that some list one while others list differently is weird and annoying.

[MikeSantNY78]

Drove the Turnpike from Exit 12 all the way to the Del Mem Br this past weekend. Kind of boggling how inconsistent they are with the pullthrough signs at each interchange in the expanded dual-dual section now. Some list a city name (keeping with the new MUTCD compliant signing they're going with elsewhere on NJTPA property) but others list THRU TRAFFIC as a control city. I know the decision to go with MUTCD signage came after they started this project, but the fact that some list one while others list differently is weird and annoying.

Probably still working on signs while revamping the original (inner) carriageway (the last part of the project), to be completed by (I believe) Thanksgiving or so, when both roadways will be open and available...

[The Nature Boy]

Despite my usual dislike of the NJ Turnpike, I have this weird desire to drive it. I have no reason to go that far north though.

[PHLBOS]

Drove the Turnpike from Exit 12 all the way to the Del Mem Br this past weekend. Kind of boggling how inconsistent they are with the pullthrough signs at each interchange in the expanded dual-dual section now. Some list a city name (keeping with the new MUTCD compliant signing they're going with elsewhere on NJTPA property) but others list THRU TRAFFIC as a control city. I know the decision to go with MUTCD signage came after they started this project, but the fact that some list one while others list differently is weird and annoying.

What could happen is that once the major construction projects draw to a close; one could see several of those newer THRU TRAFFIC BGS legends get masked over with a city destination. 

I've seen such done before on other highways.

[Roadrunner75]

I recently noticed this seemingly random stretch of lighting on the outer roadway in both directions between exits 12 and 13: 
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=40.6224,-74.216887&spn=0.000004,0.002468&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=40.6224,-74.217396&panoid=OenJ74M4PUqz3zkX2XsLVA&cbp=12,210.63,,0,-3.94
It doesn't seem to directly serve a purpose for a merge or exit lane, as the usual lighting mounted on the right shoulder side begins for the outer roadways a little bit to the north at 13.  Was the lane drop a little north of 13 a bit further south in this area at one time?

[okroads]

Not to bitch, but when did this discussion of the NJTP disintegrate into a comparison of gas prices? Sure, there's some relevance about funding the road, utilizing whatever Trenton has in mind, but can we get back to the highway itself, please? Would greatly appreciate...

Like, for example, has GSV been able to provide road-level coverage of the new outer carriageways in the 6-9 expansion? Would like to see...

It's not GSV, but I took pictures from Exit 7A-9 back in July. https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/sets/72157646259913074/ Traffic was shifted onto the outer roadway as the inner roadway is being reconstructed.

[1995hoo]

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It's not GSV, but I took pictures from Exit 7A-9 back in July. https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/sets/72157646259913074/ Traffic was shifted onto the outer roadway as the inner roadway is being reconstructed.

Interesting to see the new sign for the carriageway split says "TRUCKS BUSES CARS" instead of the "CARS-TRUCKS-BUSES" they've used for as long as I can remember. I assume from looking at the photo the change is simply due to the new signs' size and the need to configure the text to fit it all in with the Turnpike logo that wasn't present on the old flip signs?

[Roadrunner75]

Interesting to see the new sign for the carriageway split says "TRUCKS BUSES CARS" instead of the "CARS-TRUCKS-BUSES" they've used for as long as I can remember. I assume from looking at the photo the change is simply due to the new signs' size and the need to configure the text to fit it all in with the Turnpike logo that wasn't present on the old flip signs?

I think it makes more sense that way at the very least, to emphasize trucks and buses for the outer lanes.  Obviously the amount of traffic at peak periods (and of course any closures of the inner lanes) would mean a certain amount of cars in the outer lanes, but generally cars should be prodded to the inner lanes.

[roadman65]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/14471780757/in/set-72157646259913074/
I like the way this sign gantry has the old button copy for the pull through sign and the reflective copy sign for Exit 10.  Mixing and matching end up here due to changes on Exit 9's guide signs, but no change (yet anyway) for the through movement over the years as that panel was most likely there since 1971 when NJTA widened that stretch and placed that whole structure.

[PHLBOS]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/14471780757/in/set-72157646259913074/
I like the way this sign gantry has the old button copy for the pull through sign and the reflective copy sign for Exit 10.  Mixing and matching end up here due to changes on Exit 10's guide signs, but no change (yet anyway) for the through movement over the years as that panel was most likely there since 1971 when NJTA widened that stretch and placed that whole structure.

Typo alert: the gantry in that photo is the one for Exit 9.

[roadman65]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/14471780757/in/set-72157646259913074/
I like the way this sign gantry has the old button copy for the pull through sign and the reflective copy sign for Exit 10.  Mixing and matching end up here due to changes on Exit 10's guide signs, but no change (yet anyway) for the through movement over the years as that panel was most likely there since 1971 when NJTA widened that stretch and placed that whole structure.

Typo alert: the gantry in that photo is the one for Exit 9.

Fixed it.  It was not much of a typo as it was placing the right photo for the right link.  I wanted this photo here anyway, but for some reason I was thinking about Exit 10 at the time.  Maybe because I remember that area so well as to have lived there for many years.

The guide panel for Exit 9, I believe was changed in the 1990's as I always remembered that one particular sign to be a button copy to only use New Brunswick as sole control point.  When they revised it to add East Brunswick to it is why the newer button copy has been added.

[MikeSantNY78]

Not to bitch, but when did this discussion of the NJTP disintegrate into a comparison of gas prices? Sure, there's some relevance about funding the road, utilizing whatever Trenton has in mind, but can we get back to the highway itself, please? Would greatly appreciate...

Like, for example, has GSV been able to provide road-level coverage of the new outer carriageways in the 6-9 expansion? Would like to see...

It's not GSV, but I took pictures from Exit 7A-9 back in July. https://www.flickr.com/photos/okroads/sets/72157646259913074/ Traffic was shifted onto the outer roadway as the inner roadway is being reconstructed.

Nice shots - they did well for the time...outer CWs looking pretty good.