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Most acute intersection?

Started by empirestate, January 11, 2014, 08:38:46 PM

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empirestate

The intersection of Telegraph and Broadway in Oakland, CA struck me as being about as acute an angle as I've seen between two streets:
http://goo.gl/maps/jQLbM

Any others out there with an even tighter angle? Extra credit if it's the intersection of two 2-way roads, but not required. Even more credit given if turns aren't restricted around the vertex, as they seem to be in the above example.

Disqualified if it's the junction of the opposing roadways of a dual-carriageway system (divided highway or one-way couplet). Also disqualified if the intersection or surrounding blocks have been significantly modified to reduce the acuteness for one or more approaches. (See for example, the nearby intersection of San Pablo and Market, where the alignment of southbound Market St. has been adjusted, so that the street no longer fits into its original ROW: https://goo.gl/maps/h8vcB)


hotdogPi

Two 2-way roads:

NY 7 and US 20
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

NE2

pre-1945 Florida route log

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jp the roadgeek

The five corners in East Longmeadow, MA
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

hotdogPi

Is there any way to measure the angle of these on Google Maps?
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

NE2

Quote from: 1 on January 11, 2014, 09:08:11 PM
Is there any way to measure the angle of these on Google Maps?
Hold a protractor up to your monitor?
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

vdeane

NY 33 and Griswold Rd: http://goo.gl/maps/KvKsv

4 way, two way roads, no turn restrictions.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

hotdogPi

#7
NY 33 and Griswold Rd. is 21.76 degrees.

NY 7 and US 20 is 24.71 degrees.

Telegraph and Broadway is 33.39 degrees.

MA 220 and MA 186 is 22.65 degrees.



There seems to be a limit at around 20.


Sorry for the incorrect values earlier. I was using trigonometry.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

jemacedo9

The two that came to my mind quickly are:
PA 42 and PA 118:  http://goo.gl/maps/fcpFY
PA 29 at Pickering Dam Rd (SR 1017):  http://goo.gl/maps/2fbP8

hotdogPi

Quote from: jemacedo9 on January 11, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
The two that came to my mind quickly are:
PA 42 and PA 118:  http://goo.gl/maps/fcpFY
PA 29 at Pickering Dam Rd (SR 1017):  http://goo.gl/maps/2fbP8

First one: 15.23 degrees. New record!

Second one doesn't qualify (if it's where I think you're talking about).
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

vtk

#10
Northwest St & Exchage St / Castalia St, Bellevue, OH. Eyeballing it, I think it's about 20 degrees, if not slightly less.

Elmville Rd / Cow Run Rd, near Peebles, OH. Angle around 20 degrees, maybe slightly more?
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

countysigns


jemacedo9

#12
Quote from: 1 on January 11, 2014, 10:35:06 PM
Second one doesn't qualify (if it's where I think you're talking about).

The second one is in Chester County, PA, south of Phoenixville...it is two separate two-lane state roads...though turns are restricted.

Big John

Peachtree St and Forsyth St in Atlanta.

Thing 342

The Blue Ridge Parkway and SR-664 near Lyndhurst, Va.

http://goo.gl/maps/SJImQ

The High Plains Traveler

This probably doesn't win the prize for most acute, but it is the intersection of two major highways: U.S. 83 and U.S. 54 in Liberal, KS. http://goo.gl/maps/u0P7L.  What makes this turn (SB 83 to EB 54) even more difficult is the lack of a protected left cycle and heavy oncoming traffic on 83.

I had to make this turn a number of times, since for my work I would stay in Liberal and then go east of town via U.S. 54 to the power plant. Finally I learned how to avoid it using county roads.
"Tongue-tied and twisted; just an earth-bound misfit, I."

CNGL-Leudimin

I was thinking of Barcelona and the streets that run parallel to the coast and intersect the appropiately named Diagonal avenue, but the angle is a bit obtuse compared to some crossings posted there: 30 degrees approx.
Supporter of the construction of several running gags, including I-366 with a speed limit of 85 mph (137 km/h) and the Hypotenuse.

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sammi

Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 12, 2014, 01:08:43 PM
a bit obtuse compared to... 30° approx

That's still acute though. You could say "less acute".

Jardine

Sunnyside Avenue and Lincoln Way/Highway 30 in Missouri Valley Iowa is a VERY tight angle, and makes for a VERY awkward intersection.

Don't know for sure, but perhaps in the long long ago, Sunnyside was the original alignment of Lincoln Way?  But this would have been maybe 100 years ago, if then.

Zmapper

West Colfax at 6th Ave, Golden, Colorado. Not the most acute, but it is an acute intersection of two major roadways. http://goo.gl/maps/zCAgU

tradephoric

An issue with acute intersections is that they can lead to long pedestrian crossings.
(long pedestrian crossings thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=5955.0).

Here's one of the longest crosswalk in America where two acute roads meet:

https://maps.google.com/?ll=26.81026,-80.15281&z=19&t=h

Mr_Northside

#21
McCoy Rd. & Island Ave. (PA-51) in McKees Rocks has a turn restriction, but is two 2-way roads.

http://goo.gl/maps/hfRiS

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NE2

Quote from: NE2 on January 11, 2014, 08:58:31 PM
Times Square.
I calculate 13.5 degrees. Of course Broadway's been closed to motor vehicles since 2009, so it no longer counts.
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

hotdogPi

Quote from: NE2 on January 12, 2014, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 11, 2014, 08:58:31 PM
Times Square.
I calculate 13.5 degrees. Of course Broadway's been closed to motor vehicles since 2009, so it no longer counts.

If you're talking about Broadway and 7th Ave, Broadway bends at the intersection.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 53, 79, 107, 109, 126, 138, 141, 159
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

NE2

Quote from: 1 on January 12, 2014, 06:13:42 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 12, 2014, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: NE2 on January 11, 2014, 08:58:31 PM
Times Square.
I calculate 13.5 degrees. Of course Broadway's been closed to motor vehicles since 2009, so it no longer counts.

If you're talking about Broadway and 7th Ave, Broadway bends at the intersection.
Seriously? You trust the Goog without even checking the aerial?

PS: here's a 1977 view:
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".



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