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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #800 on: September 25, 2019, 01:07:29 AM »

When will the project be completed, meaning everything cleaned up, landscaping in place, signals and signs installed, etc.?

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2023. There are a lot of elements (including new streets and bridges) that have to be lifted into place.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #801 on: September 25, 2019, 06:46:29 AM »

When will the project be completed, meaning everything cleaned up, landscaping in place, signals and signs installed, etc.?  Rick

Plus what about the boulevard part of the project?
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #802 on: September 25, 2019, 09:35:28 AM »

The definitive viaduct video from WSDOT:

The difference is as clear as night and day, and I stand by the post I made before it:
I must admit, downtown Seattle looks a million times better without the viaduct!
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #803 on: September 25, 2019, 01:32:03 PM »

I must admit, downtown Seattle looks a million times better without the viaduct!

Yes!

Almost the same view as from the viaduct can still be had from several points along 1st Ave. and Pike Place Market.  On the whole, it's probably better that people get out and walk to enjoy the view rather than watch the view while they are driving.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #804 on: September 29, 2019, 01:33:08 PM »

Agreed, the highway served its purpose, and well, but it was time to move on.  When that structure was built, that was an industrial and port wasteland.  Now it is the center of the city's 'vibe'.

Also, until the bypass tunnel was built a century or so ago, mainline railroads used Alaska Way, 'street running' style, too.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #805 on: September 29, 2019, 03:38:19 PM »

Also, until the bypass tunnel was built a century or so ago, mainline railroads used Alaska Way, 'street running' style, too.

Yeah, Alaskan Way was nuckin' futs for a while. Many freeways were designed to cut off the nice areas from the industrial or poor areas, but the viaduct was purely designed to pass over the craziness of the old road, even after the tunnel opened. Of course, it was also designed to tie into several other freeways, and that never happened. But it served its primary purpose quite well for a very long time.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #806 on: October 01, 2019, 03:50:01 PM »

Also, until the bypass tunnel was built a century or so ago, mainline railroads used Alaska Way, 'street running' style, too.

Yeah, Alaskan Way was nuckin' futs for a while. Many freeways were designed to cut off the nice areas from the industrial or poor areas, but the viaduct was purely designed to pass over the craziness of the old road, even after the tunnel opened. Of course, it was also designed to tie into several other freeways, and that never happened. But it served its primary purpose quite well for a very long time.


It also doesn't help that people didn't care for the waterfronts in most cities until the 70s.  They were where the docks were, and the dock workers, which were seen as lower people.  People also didn't care much for views, as the water was often polluted and smelled bad.  So all the things that people didn't want were along the waterfront, which explains all the freeways built along waterfronts.


And the Railroad tunnel, was one of the biggest reasons that those pro-99 Tunnel were so gung-ho, as we knew it would work, and knew how safe they were.  Then again, it would have been a lot cheaper and faster to do the original cut-and-cover Tunnel/Seawall under Alaskan Way that was proposed starting in the mid-90s.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #807 on: October 09, 2019, 03:20:25 PM »


Tolling to start in the tunnel on November 9, 2019. Get your Good to Go! transponder ready!
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #808 on: November 11, 2019, 03:05:25 AM »

Got a video of the first day of tolling. You can see the final signage here. Couple of errors in what I said, which I've corrected in the video description.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #809 on: November 11, 2019, 10:07:04 AM »

Got a video of the first day of tolling. You can see the final signage here. Couple of errors in what I said, which I've corrected in the video description.


The drive through the tunnel seemed longer than expected.  Oh well, at least you get your money's worth of tunnel vision!

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #810 on: November 11, 2019, 04:24:28 PM »

The drive through the tunnel seemed longer than expected.  Oh well, at least you get your money's worth of tunnel vision!

It's a surprisingly long tunnel! Definitely worth it. The fact that so many people may refuse to pay the toll boggles my mind. It saves an insane amount of time. Nevermind the pedestrians downtown who would obviously appreciate a few less cars getting in their way.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #811 on: November 14, 2019, 01:32:55 PM »

Having driven it, it seems well worth the $3 to avoid downtown traffic, especially if heading to West Seattle or the Airport and I-5 is bogged down.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #812 on: November 14, 2019, 03:51:42 PM »

Having driven it, it seems well worth the $3 to avoid downtown traffic, especially if heading to West Seattle or the Airport and I-5 is bogged down.

Hell, it's only $1 during off-peak hours with a G2G pass. I don't know why people wouldn't get one. You'll make up the cost to buy the Flex Pass within eight rides, and only three with the regular sticker pass (probably sufficient for this tunnel).
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #813 on: November 14, 2019, 04:27:23 PM »



I guess this view now looks a lot different to this photo I took in March 2018.

Jakeroot's video shows the shoulder in the tunnel is on the left. Is there any reason for this?
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #815 on: November 14, 2019, 08:34:22 PM »



I guess this view now looks a lot different to this photo I took in March 2018.

Jakeroot's video shows the shoulder in the tunnel is on the left. Is there any reason for this?

The viewing platform (aka part of the ferry terminal) has also been demolished recently.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #816 on: November 14, 2019, 08:41:46 PM »

Jakeroot's video shows the shoulder in the tunnel is on the left. Is there any reason for this?

I believe it has to do with the emergency doors, which are on the left. If you have to abandon your car for whatever reason, you don't have to run across the carriageway to escape the tunnel. If I'm not mistaken, the southbound carriageway has a right-side shoulder for the same reason, just in reverse.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #817 on: November 14, 2019, 10:41:20 PM »

Jakeroot's video shows the shoulder in the tunnel is on the left. Is there any reason for this?

I believe it has to do with the emergency doors, which are on the left. If you have to abandon your car for whatever reason, you don't have to run across the carriageway to escape the tunnel. If I'm not mistaken, the southbound carriageway has a right-side shoulder for the same reason, just in reverse.

That is correct, it's to have room to get to the doors, and it is on the right southbound since both directions are stacked on top of each other.

Having driven it, it seems well worth the $3 to avoid downtown traffic, especially if heading to West Seattle or the Airport and I-5 is bogged down.

Hell, it's only $1 during off-peak hours with a G2G pass. I don't know why people wouldn't get one. You'll make up the cost to buy the Flex Pass within eight rides, and only three with the regular sticker pass (probably sufficient for this tunnel).

Yeah I don't get it, the tolls are really very reasonable, not complaining much though, just means it'll be even faster for those that do use it! And even during peak hours, the highest toll is only $2.25 with the pass.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #818 on: November 15, 2019, 02:13:43 PM »

If I ever go to Seattle (unlikely), the first thing I will do is take a ride through the Alaskan Way Tunnel. In the meantime, I'll use Streetview on Google Maps to travel through the tunnel.
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #819 on: November 20, 2019, 02:11:10 PM »

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #820 on: November 20, 2019, 11:18:25 PM »

I got my chunk and walked it down to the viaduct.

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #821 on: November 22, 2019, 10:42:40 AM »

I got my chunk and walked it down to the viaduct.

If enough others do the same, maybe you guys can put it back together!
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #822 on: November 23, 2019, 11:53:54 PM »

The last column of the viaduct was removed on Thursday.

Latest WSDOT drone video:

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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #823 on: November 24, 2019, 08:26:34 AM »

Kilroy!   :thumbsup:
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Re: Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement Tunnel
« Reply #824 on: November 25, 2019, 10:09:00 AM »

And so the transformation is complete!
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