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Status of Clearview?

Started by bugo, September 02, 2014, 12:54:45 AM

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bugo

Quote from: Zeffy on September 10, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
That's... that's probably one of the ugliest you can get with Clearview.

That's saying a lot, because all Clearview signs are ugly. I sincerely hope that the feds ban the font from new installations and we can go back to the handsome FHWA font series.


jakeroot

Quote from: bugo on September 10, 2014, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 10, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
That's... that's probably one of the ugliest you can get with Clearview.

That's saying a lot, because all Clearview signs are ugly. I sincerely hope that the feds ban the font from new installations and we can go back to the handsome FHWA font series.


seicer


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Scott5114

Quote from: bugo on September 10, 2014, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 10, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
That's... that's probably one of the ugliest you can get with Clearview.

That's saying a lot, because all Clearview signs are ugly. I sincerely hope that the feds ban the font from new installations and we can go back to the handsome FHWA font series.

I don't disagree with the core of your argument, but I differ in that I argue there's a spectrum of good to sucky for signs, regardless of the typeface. The Creek Turnpike sign posted here would still be awful in FHWA Series fonts, because many of its issues are typeface-agnostic–the lack of margins, bad spacing in general, use of too narrow a series, etc. I think that if you have two identically designed signs and one is Clearview and one is FHWA Series, the FHWA Series sign is usually preferable.

Regardless of the typeface, I am sure we can continue to look to OTA and ODOT as the unparalleled leaders in the design and installation of ugly road signs.
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Zeffy

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 11, 2014, 04:06:41 PM
Regardless of the typeface, I am sure we can continue to look to OTA and ODOT as the unparalleled leaders in the design and installation of ugly road signs.

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You can switch to Helvetica with the click of a button, but it takes active effort to suck this hard.
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KEVIN_224

I don't think I've ever seen Clearview here in Connecticut, save for one instance along I-84 in Waterbury.

As for your map Sammi, the only thing I thought when I saw it: Location of fans for either the Green Bay Packers or (CFL) Edmonton Eskimos! :D

bugo

Quote from: Scott5114 on September 11, 2014, 08:24:09 PM


You can switch to Helvetica with the click of a button, but it takes active effort to suck this hard.


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PurdueBill

Quote from: bugo on September 12, 2014, 12:14:55 AM


I know I've seen that one before, but only now did I notice that the E in LEFT appears to be maybe most of a chopped off capital B backwards. 

How does Oklahoma do it?  I bet Dollar Tree sells better signs.  :P

seicer

Why do they still build the gantries outward for lights? It looks like you can fit some nice fluorescent tubes up there :P

spooky

Quote from: PurdueBill on September 12, 2014, 08:43:05 AM
I know I've seen that one before, but only now did I notice that the E in LEFT appears to be maybe most of a chopped off capital B backwards. 

could also be a lowercase m on its side?

PHLBOS

Quote from: KEVIN_224 on September 11, 2014, 09:15:19 PM
I don't think I've ever seen Clearview here in Connecticut, save for one instance along I-84 in Waterbury.
That one has since been replaced about a year or two ago.
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Zeffy

Quote from: bugo on September 12, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on September 11, 2014, 08:24:09 PM
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Okay, okay, fine. DRPA sucks, but apparently Oklahoma has an even greater case of suck when it comes to signs.
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Duke87

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MTA signs are ridiculous too, but the Triboro still has a couple signs that are ridiculous in non-reflective button copy. Not sure whether to love or hate.

See for example the sign on the left here.
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SSOWorld

Wisconsin has clearview only on the Madison Beltline between Park St and the Insterstate.  There will be no more installations of Clearview by WisDOT.  However, local munis are using Clearview on their signs (street blades in particular).
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Quote from: Zeffy on September 10, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: bugo on September 10, 2014, 09:22:13 AM
If you want to see ugly...



That's... that's probably one of the ugliest you can get with Clearview.

and it sits right next to a very nice looking Highway Gothic sign.
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Quote from: myosh_tino on September 14, 2014, 12:15:23 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 10, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
Quote from: bugo on September 10, 2014, 09:22:13 AM
If you want to see ugly...



That's... that's probably one of the ugliest you can get with Clearview.

and it sits right next to a very nice looking Highway Gothic sign.

Somehow that is the perfect metaphor for the state of Oklahoma.

Laura



Quote from: Duke87 on September 13, 2014, 09:54:23 PM
MTA signs are ridiculous too, but the Triboro still has a couple signs that are ridiculous in non-reflective button copy. Not sure whether to love or hate.

See for example the sign on the left here.
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Quote from: bugo on September 10, 2014, 09:29:53 AMPontiac Aztek.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

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Quote from: SteveG1988 on September 10, 2014, 09:07:37 AM
If you want ugly, look at the DRPA signage, not even Clearview or Highway Gothic.



Ugh that monstrosity pulled me out of lurking to complain about DRPA's god awful Helvetica signs. It's bad enough I've gotta pay $5 a pop to go over their bridges but then my toll goes toward shitty signs like that?  :banghead:

Brandon

Quote from: spooky on September 12, 2014, 09:48:42 AM
Quote from: PurdueBill on September 12, 2014, 08:43:05 AM
I know I've seen that one before, but only now did I notice that the E in LEFT appears to be maybe most of a chopped off capital B backwards. 

could also be a lowercase m on its side?

No, that's a cut B.  An m would have a tab on the left side, and both arches would be of equal size.  This one has arches of two different sizes; hence, it must be a B.
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