aaroads.com topics in 2064

[jakeroot]

A traffic light is a whole different animal than certain types of signage. If a traffic light goes out, you just treat it like a stop sign. If electronic guide signage were to go out, without a physical standby, you might not have any idea where you're going and that can lead to accidents.

You could have a sign with a battery backup. Not sure how long it would last, though.

That's true, and with improvements in radio/battery technology I can imagine batteries lasting long enough, barring any sort of extreme disaster. However, I think, more than electronic signs, we're going to see cars using cameras which are able to correctly read and interpret physical signs. Optical character recognition is already a thing and it works quite well.

Eventually, every car will drive itself, and at least on the autonomous-only roads, we won't need any signs at all (you'll plug in your destination and the car will go, already knowing the route).

[kalvado]

Reasons why a sign might not be able to be read, in no particular order:

1. Blocked by leaves
2. Blocked by a large truck (either above or to the side)
3. Knocked down and not replaced
4. Covered in snow
5. Facing the wrong direction (usually as a result of being hit or in a weird-angle intersection)
6. Too faded
7. Vandalized (e.g. speed limit 155, which I have actually seen, but has been fixed)

All of those things, with exception to the last one, affect human drivers too, though.

There is such a term - "energy harvesting". For low-power devices, you can use things like temperature changes, vibration, wake of traveling traffic - not to mention traditional wind and sun. You can have active readers similar to RFID readers installed on vehicles. Combination of all above... Whatever technology would be 50 years from now.
If  there is a demand for solution, something will come up...

[MNHighwayMan]

There is such a term - "energy harvesting". For low-power devices, you can use things like temperature changes, vibration, wake of traveling traffic - not to mention traditional wind and sun. You can have active readers similar to RFID readers installed on vehicles. Combination of all above... Whatever technology would be 50 years from now.
If there is a demand for solution, something will come up...

Right, but all of those devices only inject more points-of-failure into the system. This is why (call me an old fogey if you want, although IMO that'd be kind of funny) I'd prefer that all roads still maintain physical signage to at least some degree.

[kalvado]

There is such a term - "energy harvesting". For low-power devices, you can use things like temperature changes, vibration, wake of traveling traffic - not to mention traditional wind and sun. You can have active readers similar to RFID readers installed on vehicles. Combination of all above... Whatever technology would be 50 years from now.
If there is a demand for solution, something will come up...

Right, but all of those devices only inject more points-of-failure into the system. This is why (call me an old fogey if you want, although IMO that'd be kind of funny) I'd prefer that all roads still maintain physical signage to at least some degree.

Well, let's put matter on hold until 2067.. Time will tell!

[MNHighwayMan]

Well, let's put matter on hold until 2067.. Time will tell!

That I can definitely agree to... I'll be 75 in 2067 (if I even make it that long! ), so who knows what will happen.

[Roadgeekteen]

Well, let's put matter on hold until 2067.. Time will tell!

That I can definitely agree to... I'll be 75 in 2067 (if I even make it that long! ), so who knows what will happen.

You should make it. 75 is not that old.

[MNHighwayMan]

Well, let's put matter on hold until 2067.. Time will tell!

That I can definitely agree to... I'll be 75 in 2067 (if I even make it that long! ), so who knows what will happen.

You should make it. 75 is not that old.

Well, speaking rather personally for a moment, none of my grandparents have made it that far, so I'm definitely not relying on genetics to get me there.

[Roadgeekteen]

Well, let's put matter on hold until 2067.. Time will tell!

That I can definitely agree to... I'll be 75 in 2067 (if I even make it that long! ), so who knows what will happen.

You should make it. 75 is not that old.

Well, speaking rather personally for a moment, none of my grandparents have made it that far, so I'm definitely not relying on genetics to get me there.

They were born in the early 1900s. The average life span was below 75 back then.

[MNHighwayMan]

 

My grandparents were all born in the 1940s/50s. 2/4 still survive, so sure it's still possible they might live to 75.

[Roadgeekteen]

My grandparents were all born in the 1940s/50s. 2/4 still survive, so sure it's still possible they might live to 75.

You worded that weirdly.

[bing101]

The Carquinez Bridge will cost only $90 to cross in 2064.
The San Mateo Bridge and Dumbarton bridge will cost $150 to cross in 2064.

The Golden Gate bridge will cost $200 to cross and the Bay Bridge will cost $180
to cross in 2064 

[Scott5114]

There is such a term - "energy harvesting". For low-power devices, you can use things like temperature changes, vibration, wake of traveling traffic - not to mention traditional wind and sun. You can have active readers similar to RFID readers installed on vehicles. Combination of all above... Whatever technology would be 50 years from now.
If there is a demand for solution, something will come up...

Right, but all of those devices only inject more points-of-failure into the system. This is why (call me an old fogey if you want, although IMO that'd be kind of funny) I'd prefer that all roads still maintain physical signage to at least some degree.

I've thought about this before (mostly theorizing what roads might look like in a Star Trek type of environment) and come to the conclusion that it would simply be most efficient to have standard road signs like we have today. However, it could be a good idea to include some sort of electronic system to generate temporary holographic traffic control where needed, like in the event of an accident or construction. You could even put in CGI cones or stripes to route traffic without having to require a worker to get out in the road to place them.

[sparker]

The Carquinez Bridge will cost only $90 to cross in 2064.
The San Mateo Bridge and Dumbarton bridge will cost $150 to cross in 2064.

And a loaf of sourdough will cost $69.95, a chub of Molinari salami will cost $225, and Trader Joe's peanut butter will still be a bargain at $42.50 a jar.  Just like, in a partial sense, bridge tolls (the increases of some of which track maintenance parts & labor), inflation will account for a substantial portion of commodity pricing (including services).  Actually, if history is taken into account, the actual price of the cross-Bay bridges would be somewhere between $85 and $90, with the Zampa/Carquinez and Benicia bridges priced a bit lower.  Still, not a fun prospect!

[Roadgeekteen]

The Carquinez Bridge will cost only $90 to cross in 2064.
The San Mateo Bridge and Dumbarton bridge will cost $150 to cross in 2064.

And a loaf of sourdough will cost $69.95, a chub of Molinari salami will cost $225, and Trader Joe's peanut butter will still be a bargain at $42.50 a jar.  Just like, in a partial sense, bridge tolls (the increases of some of which track maintenance parts & labor), inflation will account for a substantial portion of commodity pricing (including services).  Actually, if history is taken into account, the actual price of the cross-Bay bridges would be somewhere between $85 and $90, with the Zampa/Carquinez and Benicia bridges priced a bit lower.  Still, not a fun prospect!

How much would college cost? 1 billion dollars?

[hotdogPi]

The Carquinez Bridge will cost only $90 to cross in 2064.
The San Mateo Bridge and Dumbarton bridge will cost $150 to cross in 2064.

And a loaf of sourdough will cost $69.95, a chub of Molinari salami will cost $225, and Trader Joe's peanut butter will still be a bargain at $42.50 a jar.  Just like, in a partial sense, bridge tolls (the increases of some of which track maintenance parts & labor), inflation will account for a substantial portion of commodity pricing (including services).  Actually, if history is taken into account, the actual price of the cross-Bay bridges would be somewhere between $85 and $90, with the Zampa/Carquinez and Benicia bridges priced a bit lower.  Still, not a fun prospect!

How much would college cost? 1 billion dollars?

College costs were rising much faster than inflation until 2021.
But in 2021, Bernie Sanders made public universities free.

In 2064, private universities are in the $10M/year range.

[Roadgeekteen]

The Carquinez Bridge will cost only $90 to cross in 2064.
The San Mateo Bridge and Dumbarton bridge will cost $150 to cross in 2064.

And a loaf of sourdough will cost $69.95, a chub of Molinari salami will cost $225, and Trader Joe's peanut butter will still be a bargain at $42.50 a jar.  Just like, in a partial sense, bridge tolls (the increases of some of which track maintenance parts & labor), inflation will account for a substantial portion of commodity pricing (including services).  Actually, if history is taken into account, the actual price of the cross-Bay bridges would be somewhere between $85 and $90, with the Zampa/Carquinez and Benicia bridges priced a bit lower.  Still, not a fun prospect!

How much would college cost? 1 billion dollars?

College costs were rising much faster than inflation until 2021.
But in 2021, Bernie Sanders made public universities free.

In 2064, private universities are in the $10M/year range.

The students will really feel the bern in there college classes in 2021.

[kalvado]

The Carquinez Bridge will cost only $90 to cross in 2064.
The San Mateo Bridge and Dumbarton bridge will cost $150 to cross in 2064.

And a loaf of sourdough will cost $69.95, a chub of Molinari salami will cost $225, and Trader Joe's peanut butter will still be a bargain at $42.50 a jar.  Just like, in a partial sense, bridge tolls (the increases of some of which track maintenance parts & labor), inflation will account for a substantial portion of commodity pricing (including services).  Actually, if history is taken into account, the actual price of the cross-Bay bridges would be somewhere between $85 and $90, with the Zampa/Carquinez and Benicia bridges priced a bit lower.  Still, not a fun prospect!

How much would college cost? 1 billion dollars?

more like 3 000 000 yuans

[Roadgeekteen]

The Carquinez Bridge will cost only $90 to cross in 2064.
The San Mateo Bridge and Dumbarton bridge will cost $150 to cross in 2064.

And a loaf of sourdough will cost $69.95, a chub of Molinari salami will cost $225, and Trader Joe's peanut butter will still be a bargain at $42.50 a jar.  Just like, in a partial sense, bridge tolls (the increases of some of which track maintenance parts & labor), inflation will account for a substantial portion of commodity pricing (including services).  Actually, if history is taken into account, the actual price of the cross-Bay bridges would be somewhere between $85 and $90, with the Zampa/Carquinez and Benicia bridges priced a bit lower.  Still, not a fun prospect!

How much would college cost? 1 billion dollars?

more like 3 000 000 yuans

Will China really take over the world?

[kalvado]

The Carquinez Bridge will cost only $90 to cross in 2064.
The San Mateo Bridge and Dumbarton bridge will cost $150 to cross in 2064.

And a loaf of sourdough will cost $69.95, a chub of Molinari salami will cost $225, and Trader Joe's peanut butter will still be a bargain at $42.50 a jar.  Just like, in a partial sense, bridge tolls (the increases of some of which track maintenance parts & labor), inflation will account for a substantial portion of commodity pricing (including services).  Actually, if history is taken into account, the actual price of the cross-Bay bridges would be somewhere between $85 and $90, with the Zampa/Carquinez and Benicia bridges priced a bit lower.  Still, not a fun prospect!

How much would college cost? 1 billion dollars?

more like 3 000 000 yuans

Will China really take over the world?

Well, I don't know - but since you have to pay yuans for the college...

Another possible topic for 2067:

Chinese authorities requested bilingual signage on all roads with at least 25% Chinese ownership.
FHWA response: it will take some time to replace signs on almost 35 000 miles of interstates...

[Takumi]

^ realistic.

* Takumi heads off to learn Mandarin

[formulanone]

However, it could be a good idea to include some sort of electronic system to generate temporary holographic traffic control where needed, like in the event of an accident or construction.

Favorite Shade of Pink For Holographic Traffic Control Devices?

o Salmon
o Maguro
o Roasted Lavender
o Pink (recording artist)
o Pink (Victoria's Secret sub-brand)
o Pink Panther
o Port Wine Cheese
o Artificial Chicken Breast

[Takumi]

However, it could be a good idea to include some sort of electronic system to generate temporary holographic traffic control where needed, like in the event of an accident or construction.

Favorite Shade of Pink For Holographic Traffic Control Devices?

o Salmon
o Maguro
o Roasted Lavender
o Pink (recording artist)
o Pink (Victoria's Secret sub-brand)
o Pink Panther
o Port Wine Cheese
o Artificial Chicken Breast

[Scott5114]

However, it could be a good idea to include some sort of electronic system to generate temporary holographic traffic control where needed, like in the event of an accident or construction.

Favorite Shade of Pink For Holographic Traffic Control Devices?

o Salmon
o Maguro
o Roasted Lavender
o Pink (recording artist)
o Pink (Victoria's Secret sub-brand)
o Pink Panther
o Port Wine Cheese
o Artificial Chicken Breast

o Jazz

[TheArkansasRoadgeek]

However, it could be a good idea to include some sort of electronic system to generate temporary holographic traffic control where needed, like in the event of an accident or construction.

Favorite Shade of Pink For Holographic Traffic Control Devices?

o Salmon
o Maguro
o Roasted Lavender
o Pink (recording artist)
o Pink (Victoria's Secret sub-brand)
o Pink Panther
o Port Wine Cheese
o Artificial Chicken Breast

Remember, if the FHWA is still around we're using standard colors! Purple is Incident Management.
I would go with Pink Panther.

[freebrickproductions]

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