If Alex Trebek retires from Jeopardy! in 2016...

Started by Pink Jazz, December 04, 2014, 12:03:42 PM

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Scott5114

I disagree. Jeopardy is not really a host-centric format like Family Feud or Price is Right. All the host has to do is read questions and say right or wrong. Many people could host it well. And they didn't retire the format when Art Fleming retired...
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bugo

Alex does most of the talking on Jeopardy. The host on that show is a very integral part of the programme. As for TPIR and Family Feud, the former has suffered since Bob Barker retired and the latter hasn't been the same since Richard Dawson hosted the show.

1995hoo


Quote from: bugo on December 06, 2014, 09:27:39 PM
Alex does most of the talking on Jeopardy. The host on that show is a very integral part of the programme. As for TPIR and Family Feud, the former has suffered since Bob Barker retired and the latter hasn't been the same since Richard Dawson hosted the show.

I think Steve Harvey does a very good job with Family Feud.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
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commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

bugo

Steve Harvey is an ignorant bigot. Fuck him.

Pete from Boston


Quote from: bugo on December 06, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
Steve Harvey is an ignorant bigot. Fuck him.

How?  Why?  You can't just let a statement like that sit out there without an explanation.

Pete from Boston


Quote from: bugo on December 06, 2014, 06:08:30 PM
If Trebek retires, they should end the show. To my generation and the generations that have come since, Alex has been the only host. I wouldn't want to watch Jeopardy with another host.

But money.  Carson retired and the Tonight Show still makes money.  So Jeopardy!, arguably much more concept-centric than something that's now one of many indistiguishable talk shows, will survive post-Trebek.

algorerhythms

Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 06, 2014, 11:59:42 PM

Quote from: bugo on December 06, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
Steve Harvey is an ignorant bigot. Fuck him.

How?  Why?  You can't just let a statement like that sit out there without an explanation.
Guessing based on Steve Harvey's Wikipedia article, I'm guessing it's his comments on atheism.

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bugo

Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 06, 2014, 11:59:42 PM

Quote from: bugo on December 06, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
Steve Harvey is an ignorant bigot. Fuck him.

How?  Why?  You can't just let a statement like that sit out there without an explanation.

"If you don't believe in God, where is your moral barometer? If you're an atheist, you're basing your goodness and morality on what?"

"You are sitting up there talking to a dude and he tells you he's an atheist, you need to pack it up and go home. You talking to a person who don't believe in God... what's his moral barometer? Where's it at? It's nowhere. You gotta get into this stuff."


bugo

Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 07, 2014, 12:04:14 AM

Quote from: bugo on December 06, 2014, 06:08:30 PM
If Trebek retires, they should end the show. To my generation and the generations that have come since, Alex has been the only host. I wouldn't want to watch Jeopardy with another host.

But money.  Carson retired and the Tonight Show still makes money.  So Jeopardy!, arguably much more concept-centric than something that's now one of many indistiguishable talk shows, will survive post-Trebek.

Money money money. Money money money money money. I'm sick and fucking tired of money. That's all anybody cares about anymore. What about artistic merit? What about the quality of television programmes? Jay Leno couldn't wipe Johnny Carson's ass, and the less that is said about Jimmy Fallon (one of the most unfunny "comedians" I've ever heard) the better. To quote the great Billy Corgan, "who wants honey, as long as there's some money."

Zeffy

Quote from: bugo on December 07, 2014, 04:23:01 AM
"If you don't believe in God, where is your moral barometer? If you're an atheist, you're basing your goodness and morality on what?"

I base my goodness and morality off of being a decent human being. I don't need religion in my life to tell me what is right and wrong. I am always accepting of everyone at first, and it mostly stays that way, unless you bash me or my lack of a religion, in which case I start to hate you.

It's okay though - I'm used to being hated on as an atheist. Some of the over-religious fuckwads in my school constantly felt it was necessary to pick on me for that said reason. Eventually they stopped, because I ignored them like you should. I'd like to think my morality is at least triple some of the religious people I've seen, especially the ones who are willing to murder others for not believing in what they believe in. I'm not going to discuss further, since it's largely against the rules...

Regarding the original topic, I don't think Jeopardy! would be the same without Trebek. He seems to give the show a certain burst of energy that makes it at least semi-entertaining to watch.
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cjk374

Quote from: bugo on December 07, 2014, 04:26:33 AM
Jay Leno couldn't wipe Johnny Carson's ass, and the less that is said about Jimmy Fallon (one of the most unfunny "comedians" I've ever heard) the better. To quote the great Billy Corgan, "who wants honey, as long as there's some money."

I agree with this 100%!  I never liked The Tonight Show after Johnny retired.  IMO, David Letterman was the best late-night show on TV after Johnny's retirement...and sometimes that's a major stretch.

When Alex bids everyone a goodnight for the last time, Jeopardy! should also bid the world of TV a final goodnight as well, and send it's set to the same TV museum that now houses Johnny Carson's set.
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Pete from Boston


Quote from: bugo on December 07, 2014, 04:26:33 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 07, 2014, 12:04:14 AM

Quote from: bugo on December 06, 2014, 06:08:30 PM
If Trebek retires, they should end the show. To my generation and the generations that have come since, Alex has been the only host. I wouldn't want to watch Jeopardy with another host.

But money.  Carson retired and the Tonight Show still makes money.  So Jeopardy!, arguably much more concept-centric than something that's now one of many indistiguishable talk shows, will survive post-Trebek.

Money money money. Money money money money money. I'm sick and fucking tired of money. That's all anybody cares about anymore. What about artistic merit? What about the quality of television programmes? Jay Leno couldn't wipe Johnny Carson's ass, and the less that is said about Jimmy Fallon (one of the most unfunny "comedians" I've ever heard) the better. To quote the great Billy Corgan, "who wants honey, as long as there's some money."

I don't think game show producers really get much into artistic merit.

1995hoo

I couldn't care less about Harvey's views on religion, politics, sports, or whatever when it comes to hosting a game show. I care about whether he does a good job hosting that game show, and in the case of Family Feud I think he does.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Pete from Boston


Quote from: 1995hoo on December 07, 2014, 11:38:33 AM
I couldn't care less about Harvey's views on religion, politics, sports, or whatever when it comes to hosting a game show. I care about whether he does a good job hosting that game show, and in the case of Family Feud I think he does.

I agree.  He knows how to tactfully weave sexual innuendo into a show with "family" in the title.  This takes talent. 

formulanone


Quote from: bugo on December 06, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
Steve Harvey is an ignorant bigot. Fuck him.

All the sweeter to try to "take" the money from him on the show and sponsors.

codyg1985

I love the idea of Anderson Cooper taking the place of Alex on Jeopardy when Alex retires. To me he seems like a good fit for the show.

As for Steve Harvey and Family Feud, I think he is a great fit for the show. As others have mentioned, he plays back at the contestants. I do think that the questions have taken more of a raunchy turn over the past few years to score ratings, which is unfortunate.
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Henry

Let's just hope that Jeopardy don't pull a Drew Carey and hire some random guy without giving him an audition first. I remember when Price did a hosting search back in 2007, with potential replacements such as Mario Lopez, Mark Steines, Rosie O'Donnell and John O'Hurley being considered, none of whom I thought would be a good fit for that show. But they're stuck with Drew now, so they got what they asked for. Even with a simple "right/wrong" response to the contestant's answer-questions, the right host has to click with the show. Same goes for Wheel of Fortune, if and when Pat Sajak leaves.
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Pete from Boston


Quote from: codyg1985 on December 08, 2014, 06:46:34 AM
I love the idea of Anderson Cooper taking the place of Alex on Jeopardy when Alex retires. To me he seems like a good fit for the show.

As for Steve Harvey and Family Feud, I think he is a great fit for the show. As others have mentioned, he plays back at the contestants. I do think that the questions have taken more of a raunchy turn over the past few years to score ratings, which is unfortunate.

I think Steve Harvey's raunchiness only pushes current norms as much as game shows in the 70s did ("Match Game" anyone?).  Dawson played the sly player to a T. 

1995hoo

Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 08, 2014, 12:33:23 PM

Quote from: codyg1985 on December 08, 2014, 06:46:34 AM
I love the idea of Anderson Cooper taking the place of Alex on Jeopardy when Alex retires. To me he seems like a good fit for the show.

As for Steve Harvey and Family Feud, I think he is a great fit for the show. As others have mentioned, he plays back at the contestants. I do think that the questions have taken more of a raunchy turn over the past few years to score ratings, which is unfortunate.

I think Steve Harvey's raunchiness only pushes current norms as much as game shows in the 70s did ("Match Game" anyone?).  Dawson played the sly player to a T. 

Dawson appeared to be wise to the idea that this player apparently wanted to get him to say "Show me dick!"

"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Pete from Boston

In fact, thinking back, Richard Dawson pretty much gave himself license to plant his lips on anything with a pair of ovaries (you thought I was going to say ears).  Quite a lot of it was just part of his charm schtick, but some of those could've bordered on lawsuit material in this day and age.

NJRoadfan

Keep in mind that Family Feud was created specifically for Dawson, mostly because he was stealing the show on Match Game.

One thing Trebek does that his replacement needs to be good at is the player's introduction. That banter is an essential part of the show. Rumor has it that your "story" can determine whether or not you make the cut during tryouts for the show.

bugo

Richard Dawson was the shit. Family Feud was worth watching when he was the host and ever since he's been gone it's been boring.

Henry

Quote from: bugo on December 08, 2014, 10:43:21 PM
Richard Dawson was the shit. Family Feud was worth watching when he was the host and ever since he's been gone it's been boring.
Same is true for Ray Combs.
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Scott5114

Watching that video reminded me of how much more fun Family Feud was with the 70s props and sound effects. You can tell that the chime going off after the #1 answer is revealed (they don't even play a sound effect for that anymore) is a real bell because you can still hear it reverberating when the team is deciding pass/play. The giant trilon swinging around and the flip-dot displays were really cool too. Now you're just watching a bunch of people watching a television.
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