Highway 0?

[SignGeek101]

This is kind of a silly question, but why aren't there any highway zero's in North America? Zero is a legitimate number, is it not?

[CNGL-Leudimin]

We already had this some time ago. I know of a couple routes 0 in Europe, but none outside. Internally I have the Western US 2 as US 0 to differentiate it from the Eastern US 2 .

[wxfree]

Yes, it's a perfectly cromulent number.

[english si]

I know of a couple routes 0 in Europe, but none outside.

All of which are capital beltways.

R0 - Brussels
M0 - Budapest
A0 - proposed Bucharest belt

London's cycle network has a circular route 0 too.

[GaryV]

This is kind of a silly question, but why aren't there any highway zero's in North America? Zero is a legitimate number, is it not?

Sure.  But to make it sillier, other legitimate numbers are 1/2, 234.425, sqrt(93) and pi.  Doesn't mean we need to use them for highways though.

[6a]

[SignGeek101]

This is kind of a silly question, but why aren't there any highway zero's in North America? Zero is a legitimate number, is it not?

Sure.  But to make it sillier, other legitimate numbers are 1/2, 234.425, sqrt(93) and pi.  Doesn't mean we need to use them for highways though.

Those numbers aren't integers though. 

[hotdogPi]

This is kind of a silly question, but why aren't there any highway zero's in North America? Zero is a legitimate number, is it not?

Sure.  But to make it sillier, other legitimate numbers are 1/2, 234.425, sqrt(93) and pi.  Doesn't mean we need to use them for highways though.

Those numbers aren't integers though. 

-1 is an integer. Is it used anywhere?

[nexus73]

This is kind of a silly question, but why aren't there any highway zero's in North America? Zero is a legitimate number, is it not?

Sure.  But to make it sillier, other legitimate numbers are 1/2, 234.425, sqrt(93) and pi.  Doesn't mean we need to use them for highways though.

Those numbers aren't integers though. 

-1 is an integer. Is it used anywhere?

If we used the square root of -1 we would have an imaginary number that is perfectly suited for an imaginary road...LOL!

Rick

[Kacie Jane]

This is kind of a silly question, but why aren't there any highway zero's in North America? Zero is a legitimate number, is it not?

Sure.  But to make it sillier, other legitimate numbers are 1/2, 234.425, sqrt(93) and pi.  Doesn't mean we need to use them for highways though.

Those numbers aren't integers though. 

And zero isn't a positive integer.  I'm not sure why the decision seems to have been made that highway numbers on this side of the Atlantic have to be positive integers, but it's a decision I agree with (again for reasons I can't necessarily identify).

[Zzonkmiles]

I would support an Interstate 0 over an Interstate 101 for the East Coast.

[admtrap]

More political than anything else.

The number one has a lot of positive connotations - first place.  Whereas the number zero has largely negative connotations - worthless, null.  Compare "you're number one" to "you're a zero"

Cities and states don't want to be associated with number zero, so there's no route zeroes. 

That's really all there is to it IMO.

[SignGeek101]

More political than anything else.

The number one has a lot of positive connotations - first place.  Whereas the number zero has largely negative connotations - worthless, null.  Compare "you're number one" to "you're a zero"

Cities and states don't want to be associated with number zero, so there's no route zeroes. 

That's really all there is to it IMO.

That's the reason why Ontario doesn't have a highway 1.

(from http://www.thekingshighway.ca/faq.htm).

[vtk]

Michigan initially skipped the numbers 1—9 for that reason.

[c172]

I would find a hwy 0 kind of odd, but I have seen highways with a leading 0 (hwy 0547 or whatever). Just county roads somewhere, I think. And addressing a post after the OP, I did see a CR in Yolo County, Ca (Davis, Woodland, West Sacramento) that was "x 1/2, where x=an integer.

Equally odd, but something I have actually seen, is a transit route #0. It's run by Valley Metro in Phoenix.

[bulldog1979]

Williams County, Ohio, has a unique (at least to me) system of numbering its CRs. the north—south roads are numbered and the east—west ones are lettered. The state line is CR 1, and one mile east of there is CR 2, etc. The road that falls in between them is CR 1.50. Some others fall at other decimal values, so #.75 wouldn't be out of place. The east—west CR that ran next to the hotel where I used to work is CR M.50 as it is halfway between CR M and CR N. It's not the only one with a decimal appended to a letter.

[admtrap]

I would find a hwy 0 kind of odd, but I have seen highways with a leading 0 (hwy 0547 or whatever). Just county roads somewhere, I think. And addressing a post after the OP, I did see a CR in Yolo County, Ca (Davis, Woodland, West Sacramento) that was "x 1/2, where x=an integer.

Equally odd, but something I have actually seen, is a transit route #0. It's run by Valley Metro in Phoenix.

Was it a Pentagon-shielded route number, or was it just a road name (as in Avenue 12 1/2 or Road 26 1/2)?  Madera County and Tulare County both do that for most of their roads.  Those aren't route numbers, they're just lazy naming schemes. 

[c172]

They didn't use the blue CR marker. They used gantries and other green signs.

[OCGuy81]

Yes, it's a perfectly cromulent number.

I love the Simpsons reference here! You've embiggened the forum with that.

[mrose]

Wisconsin doesn't have any single digit numbers either, apart from its US routes 2 and 8. I always wondered why that was. Would a reason that petty seriously happen?

[bzakharin]

I would support an Interstate 0 over an Interstate 101 for the East Coast.

Wouldn't 0 be an East-West route anyway? Also, is there really a possibility for another north-south 2-digit interstate on the east coast any time soon?

[Avalanchez71]

So what is the deal with the county roads in Leon County, FL with the leading zero anyway?

[admtrap]

I would support an Interstate 0 over an Interstate 101 for the East Coast.

Wouldn't 0 be an East-West route anyway? Also, is there really a possibility for another north-south 2-digit interstate on the east coast any time soon?

Well, there have been suggestions to upgrade the US 13/17 corridor as a relief route/alternate to I-95 roughly from Wilmington or Philadelphia down to Raleigh via Newport News.  It would have made a very nice I-99 routing, and 101 is the logical substitute (what else are they gonna call it?  The lowest unused 2di odd is 67, after all).  But realistically, not any time soon. 

[Rover_0]

I've toyed with this thought, and it would (slightly) violate US Route numbering conventions, but what about MSR-200? Or if you're feeling more ambitious, reroute US-2 onto 200 and renumber 2 as 0.

But if anything, MSR-200 becomes US-200.

[Alex]

So what is the deal with the county roads in Leon County, FL with the leading zero anyway?

See this post.

And where NE2 wrote:

See http://www.dot.state.fl.us/planning/statistics/hwysys/jurisdictionhandbook.pdf (p. 21).

Reveals the numbering for Leon County: