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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1125 on: July 05, 2022, 01:49:16 PM »

That ramp from 95 to the HRD south, any plans to actually pave it?  Condition is awful.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1126 on: July 05, 2022, 08:57:19 PM »

That ramp from 95 to the HRD south, any plans to actually pave it?  Condition is awful.

From my experience, the DOT takes quite a while to pave roads, no matter how important. There was quite a while where the Broad Channel approach to the Cross Bay Bridge and North Conduit Avenue and the Exit 1W ramp from the Van Wyck were both unpaved, and then equally as long unstriped.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1127 on: July 06, 2022, 12:03:50 PM »

That ramp from 95 to the HRD south, any plans to actually pave it?  Condition is awful.
Nothing has changed since February.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1128 on: July 07, 2022, 08:10:57 PM »

With todayís announcement of the death of James Caan, Iím curious, does anyone know if the details of the toll booth are based in any late-1940s Greater New York reality? Like these Ďtoll paidí lights, for example.

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« Reply #1129 on: July 08, 2022, 05:57:46 AM »

With todayís announcement of the death of James Caan, Iím curious, does anyone know if the details of the toll booth are based in any late-1940s Greater New York reality? Like these Ďtoll paidí lights, for example.



This may provide some context:

https://godfather.fandom.com/wiki/Jones_Beach_Causeway
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1130 on: July 19, 2022, 12:26:55 AM »

That ramp from 95 to the HRD south, any plans to actually pave it?  Condition is awful.
Nothing has changed since February.
I do not understand WHY they do not make this a priority...
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1131 on: July 19, 2022, 09:47:56 PM »

That ramp from 95 to the HRD south, any plans to actually pave it?  Condition is awful.
Nothing has changed since February.
I do not understand WHY they do not make this a priority...
It costs money, and they are busy with other projects I'm sure, besides the obvious GWB cashless tolling conversion. PANYNJ, like most toll agencies, is not made of money, contrary to popular belief.

Not to mention the traffic ramifications that would result from even a partial closure for work...
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1132 on: August 02, 2022, 10:44:02 AM »

That ramp from 95 to the HRD south, any plans to actually pave it?  Condition is awful.
Nothing has changed since February.
I do not understand WHY they do not make this a priority...
It costs money, and they are busy with other projects I'm sure, besides the obvious GWB cashless tolling conversion. PANYNJ, like most toll agencies, is not made of money, contrary to popular belief.

Not to mention the traffic ramifications that would result from even a partial closure for work...
This needs to be a priority, it really sucks.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1133 on: August 12, 2022, 11:22:31 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/nUDUUbQbgJSQSYDP7
Why does Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn prohibit Trucks? 


Considering NY Parkways donít allow semis or delivery trucks due to height of the vehicle not able to fit under bridges, Ocean Parkway is not applicable in this rationale. It has no low height bridges.

Itís not even a freeway.


Also is this for real?  https://goo.gl/maps/RZQ31HafcX98DCo78
A subway that gives a very short headroom on a freeway.   
« Last Edit: August 13, 2022, 11:07:28 AM by roadman65 »
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1134 on: August 13, 2022, 12:33:46 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/nUDUUbQbgJSQSYDP7
Why does Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn prohibit Trucks? 


Considering NY Parkways donít allow semis or delivery trucks due to height of the vehicle not able to fit under bridges, Ocean Parkway is not applicable in this rationale. It has no low height bridges.

Itís not even a freeway.


Also is this for real?  https://goo.gl/maps/RZQ31HafcX98DCo78
A subway that gives a very short headroom on a freeway.   

The second thing is for real. Belt Pkwy doesn't allow trucks for a reason. That was also done that way to fit the roadway into that spot without having to get the bridge rebuilt.

Also, in NYC, a Parkway is a Parkway and is restricted to passenger cars only, even if it's not limited access and doesn't have overpasses that are too low. Eastern Parkway also has a truck restriction like this, even though there are no overpasses along its length.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1135 on: August 13, 2022, 03:44:31 PM »

I've heard that the parkways (or at least the LOSP upstate) were constructed with thinner pavement since trucks wouldn't be using them, though I'm not sure if that's the case downstate or with the Ocean Parkway in particular.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1136 on: August 14, 2022, 08:14:25 PM »

I like that the ramp from the GCP to the JRP has been separated from the Van Wyck ramp, but why is Union Tpke. also listed as a destination when it could be on a separate sign (similar to Main Street at the same interchange)? "Brooklyn" is definitely more useful here, especially for traffic coming from the airport. Union can be put on a supplementary sign because most traffic going to either of it's endpoints is going to be using the parkways and local traffic can follow that sign.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1137 on: August 14, 2022, 08:17:46 PM »

A conclusion I've reached over the years is no matter how the engineers choose to sign a given location, there are always several other ways it could have been done.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1138 on: August 25, 2022, 11:33:06 AM »

https://goo.gl/maps/nUDUUbQbgJSQSYDP7
Why does Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn prohibit Trucks? 


Considering NY Parkways donít allow semis or delivery trucks due to height of the vehicle not able to fit under bridges, Ocean Parkway is not applicable in this rationale. It has no low height bridges.

Itís not even a freeway.

This is something that quite a lot of people get backwards (understandably): Parkways don't prohibit trucks because they have low bridges; parkways have low bridges because they prohibit trucks.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1139 on: August 25, 2022, 02:58:09 PM »

Also, the parkways were constructed before the expressways were. I doubt there is much that can be done to raise parkway overpasses and underpasses to Interstate Standard heights, in order to allow trucks to safely pass through.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1140 on: August 25, 2022, 04:25:02 PM »

Also, the parkways were constructed before the expressways were. I doubt there is much that can be done to raise parkway overpasses and underpasses to Interstate Standard heights, in order to allow trucks to safely pass through.
The "easiest" way for most of them would be to lower the parkway, but they flood enough already, not to mention the cost of regrading the entire cross section of a parkway.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1141 on: August 25, 2022, 08:13:14 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/nUDUUbQbgJSQSYDP7
Why does Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn prohibit Trucks? 


Considering NY Parkways donít allow semis or delivery trucks due to height of the vehicle not able to fit under bridges, Ocean Parkway is not applicable in this rationale. It has no low height bridges.

Itís not even a freeway.

This is something that quite a lot of people get backwards (understandably): Parkways don't prohibit trucks because they have low bridges; parkways have low bridges because they prohibit trucks.

That's the way the legendary Robert Moses and his engineers deliberately planned it. Built the bridges too low so that large trucks could never use the recreational Parkways. The only way that will ever change is if all the bridges were torn down and replaced with modern ones with 14 ft. clearance. But it could happen some day........
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« Reply #1142 on: August 30, 2022, 02:10:40 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/fPmvCUyvz6PBFApVA

I was noticing that at the transition point of the Henry Hudson Parkway to 12th Avenue, the city has a pull through for SB NY 9A, stating the legislative name for 12th Avenue, named after the famous Yankee Clipper.

I though it was odd. considering that his name on paper (and some maps) was not that important enough to warrant the signs to feature it.    Not that I have anything against it, but in a way glad that they did that.  After all the man is a legend in the MLB and is dead, but remembered solely for. his playing ball and  such.

However, not to praise NYCDOT or NYSDOT here, just to state that its really there.  Being from the south, I only get to learn about road things from here or GSV, so this is new news for many of you who have seen it for a long time.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1143 on: August 30, 2022, 08:25:20 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/nUDUUbQbgJSQSYDP7
Why does Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn prohibit Trucks? 


Considering NY Parkways donít allow semis or delivery trucks due to height of the vehicle not able to fit under bridges, Ocean Parkway is not applicable in this rationale. It has no low height bridges.

Itís not even a freeway.

This is something that quite a lot of people get backwards (understandably): Parkways don't prohibit trucks because they have low bridges; parkways have low bridges because they prohibit trucks.

That's the way the legendary Robert Moses and his engineers deliberately planned it. Built the bridges too low so that large trucks could never use the recreational Parkways. The only way that will ever change is if all the bridges were torn down and replaced with modern ones with 14 ft. clearance. But it could happen some day........
At the rate thing are going in NY, we will probably see 14ft clearance on every parkway bridge around the year 2080 or so if I had to guess. Every parkway bridge replacement the past 10 years (off the top of my head) has had ample clearance, and those old stone bridges last a long time, but not forever.
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« Reply #1144 on: August 30, 2022, 09:19:46 PM »

I though it was odd. considering that his name on paper (and some maps) was not that important enough to warrant the signs to feature it.    Not that I have anything against it, but in a way glad that they did that.  After all the man is a legend in the MLB and is dead, but remembered solely for. his playing ball and  such.

However, not to praise NYCDOT or NYSDOT here, just to state that its really there.  Being from the south, I only get to learn about road things from here or GSV, so this is new news for many of you who have seen it for a long time.

It's been there since at least 2001, maybe earlier.
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« Reply #1145 on: August 30, 2022, 09:27:47 PM »

I see per GSV a new ramp is being built from the Upper Level GWB to loop around to somewhere departing from the 178th Street exit.  Plus the North Sidewalk is being redone over the Palisades Parkway on the NJ side to eliminate ( Iím guessing here) the stairs over the NB parkway as the new crossing seems to zig and zag.   I guess the PANYNJ is finally conforming to the ADA.

I hope the stairs on the NY side are being replaced as I walked the bridge in 03 and climbed the stairs on both ends.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1146 on: September 05, 2022, 09:00:55 PM »

One thing I will tell you, NYC expressways, interstates, and parkways SUCK.
Man, I wish they could upgrade.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1147 on: September 06, 2022, 04:34:08 PM »

If the Interstates and Parkways in New York City could be upgraded, I think they would. However, with all the constraints (physical, political, as well as local), any improvements to NYC's road system would be a pipe dream. About the only change you might see is the exit numbers being renumbered from sequential-to-mileage-based, and even that seems far fetched at this point.
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Re: NYC Roads
« Reply #1148 on: September 06, 2022, 07:45:02 PM »

One thing I will tell you, NYC expressways, interstates, and parkways SUCK.
Man, I wish they could upgrade.
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« Reply #1149 on: September 06, 2022, 08:12:15 PM »

Alps, I think blue country's  statement was accurate. LOL

What's with your attitude today?
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