NYC Roads

[Alps]

I've never driven in New York before, what are the roads like there? Is it too crowded?

Please stop spamming all of these topics. This question is... not really conducive to the discussion of roads.

[tolbs17]

I've never driven in New York before, what are the roads like there? Is it too crowded?

Please stop spamming all of these topics. This question is... not really conducive to the discussion of roads.

Alright, I've never been to New York really, and I should probably stop posting on here unless it has something to do with the roads.

[KEVIN_224]

Was in the Bronx, Queens and Manhattan on Saturday. From what I could see from the Amtrak train in the Bronx (before the Hell Gate Bridge heading south/east), the BGS gantries for the Sheridan Expressway still show as I-895.

[Alps]

Was in the Bronx, Queens and Manhattan on Saturday. From what I could see from the Amtrak train in the Bronx (before the Hell Gate Bridge heading south/east), the BGS gantries for the Sheridan Expressway still show as I-895.

Correct. There's next to no NY 895 signage yet anywhere.

[vdeane]

Was in the Bronx, Queens and Manhattan on Saturday. From what I could see from the Amtrak train in the Bronx (before the Hell Gate Bridge heading south/east), the BGS gantries for the Sheridan Expressway still show as I-895.

Correct. There's next to no NY 878 signage yet anywhere.

I would hope that there wouldn't be any NY 878 signage on/for the Sheridan.

[Alps]

Was in the Bronx, Queens and Manhattan on Saturday. From what I could see from the Amtrak train in the Bronx (before the Hell Gate Bridge heading south/east), the BGS gantries for the Sheridan Expressway still show as I-895.

Correct. There's next to no NY 878 signage yet anywhere.

I would hope that there wouldn't be any NY 878 signage on/for the Sheridan.

Blah, good catch.

[Mergingtraffic]

Enjoy these while you can:





and an older I pic I took a couple years ago:

[webny99]

I've never driven in New York before, what are the roads like there? Is it too crowded?

Please stop spamming all of these topics. This question is... not really conducive to the discussion of roads.

Alright, I've never been to New York really, and I should probably stop posting on here unless it has something to do with the roads.

The roads in the New York City part of New York are very congested (yes, "too crowded", IMO). The roads in the non-city part of New York, also known as Upstate,  are no different than the roads anywhere else in the US. Maybe even better, once you get north of the 42nd parallel! 

[Mergingtraffic]

More button copy disappearing, I noticed on I-678 NB all the button copy is gone at least up until the GCP.

This FDR Drive sign is gone.  I just took the pic about a month and half ago.

[Plutonic Panda]

Car traffic in Manhattan moving at slowest pace in decades: report

Manhattan's notoriously fast pace is slowing down – at least for drivers.

Data released by the city Department of Transportation Thursday shows the average speed of vehicles in the borough below 60th St. was a paltry 7 mph last year.

- https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-dot-mobility-report-polly-trottenberg-20190815-bulpauf6v5gddczbq4wrm2xtuy-story.html

Record levels of tourism and pedestrians... lol and surely that nothing to do with all of the projects removing car lanes and adding bus and bike lanes. Articles like this are posted likely as an attempt to dupe car drivers into thinking the politicians and planners are aware of this yet don't realize that this is a goal of these people. Classic.

[Alps]

Car traffic in Manhattan moving at slowest pace in decades: report

Manhattan's notoriously fast pace is slowing down – at least for drivers.

Data released by the city Department of Transportation Thursday shows the average speed of vehicles in the borough below 60th St. was a paltry 7 mph last year.

- https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-dot-mobility-report-polly-trottenberg-20190815-bulpauf6v5gddczbq4wrm2xtuy-story.html

Record levels of tourism and pedestrians... lol and surely that nothing to do with all of the projects removing car lanes and adding bus and bike lanes. Articles like this are posted likely as an attempt to dupe car drivers into thinking the politicians and planners are aware of this yet don't realize that this is a goal of these people. Classic.

Don't forget Zero Vision!

[Plutonic Panda]

Right! How can anyone die from car accidents if no one is moving!

[Duke87]

The advent of app-based taxi services has certatinly been a contributing factor to increased congestion, and DOT is not wrong to identify this as such.

Though yes, lane reductions, in some cases, are also a contributing factor - but of course they're not going to draw attention to this since it would go against the city's policy agenda to criticize that practice.

Two other things not yet mentioned here or in the article that are worth pointing out:
- 2010 was a recession year. Some of that 23% increase in congestion since then can be attributed to a stronger economy.
- While the city's population is actually now estimated to be trending downward (since 2017), there are still a couple hundred thousand more people living here now than there were in 2010. All else being equal, population growth that is not offset by increasing transportation capacity will naturally beget increased congestion.

[Plutonic Panda]

The DOT is wrong to acknowledge certain factors like ride sharing and not the results of their own practices. The government works for us, not the other way around.

[Mergingtraffic]

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.DYN_PROJECT_DETAILS.show?p_arg_names=p_pin&p_arg_values=X05171

A project to allow trucks on the GCP from the Triboro to the BQE.  I thought that was already done?

[Duke87]

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.DYN_PROJECT_DETAILS.show?p_arg_names=p_pin&p_arg_values=X05171

A project to allow trucks on the GCP from the Triboro to the BQE.  I thought that was already done?

Sooo...

The current status of the project is Future Development.
The Bid Opening is expected to be in Fall 2018.
Construction is expected to begin in Winter 2018/2019.

Based on the claim of future development but with anticipated dates in the past, I don't think this an actual project. It, like many "projects" that make it onto the website is pure vaporware.

Insofar as trucks on that stretch of the Triborough Bridge Approach go... yes, there once was a complete ban on trucks there, and that was relaxed years ago. However, there are still size limits in place. Trucks with more than 3 axles, more than 10 wheels, or that are greater than 12'6" in height are still required to exit and use the service road. So, this "project" presumably would have involved reconstruction of that segment of road to have thicker pavement to support larger vehicle loads, and possibly a lowering of the roadway to increase clearance under the 31st St overpass.

[Mergingtraffic]

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.DYN_PROJECT_DETAILS.show?p_arg_names=p_pin&p_arg_values=X05171

A project to allow trucks on the GCP from the Triboro to the BQE.  I thought that was already done?

Sooo...

The current status of the project is Future Development.
The Bid Opening is expected to be in Fall 2018.
Construction is expected to begin in Winter 2018/2019.

Based on the claim of future development but with anticipated dates in the past, I don't think this an actual project. It, like many "projects" that make it onto the website is pure vaporware.

Insofar as trucks on that stretch of the Triborough Bridge Approach go... yes, there once was a complete ban on trucks there, and that was relaxed years ago. However, there are still size limits in place. Trucks with more than 3 axles, more than 10 wheels, or that are greater than 12'6" in height are still required to exit and use the service road. So, this "project" presumably would have involved reconstruction of that segment of road to have thicker pavement to support larger vehicle loads, and possibly a lowering of the roadway to increase clearance under the 31st St overpass.

This was what I remember
https://qns.com/story/2017/12/15/trucks-will-permitted-grand-central-parkway-astoria-ending-soul-piercing-noise-local-streets/

[empirestate]

non-city part of New York, also known as Upstate

Ogdensburg and Oyster Bay both might have something to say about that definition–but there's another whole thread for that already.

[Alps]

non-city part of New York, also known as Upstate

Ogdensburg and Oyster Bay both might have something to say about that definition–but there's another whole thread for that already.

He said New York, not Long Island.

[SteveG1988]

https://www.dot.ny.gov/portal/pls/portal/MEXIS_APP.DYN_PROJECT_DETAILS.show?p_arg_names=p_pin&p_arg_values=X05171

A project to allow trucks on the GCP from the Triboro to the BQE.  I thought that was already done?

Sooo...

The current status of the project is Future Development.
The Bid Opening is expected to be in Fall 2018.
Construction is expected to begin in Winter 2018/2019.

Based on the claim of future development but with anticipated dates in the past, I don't think this an actual project. It, like many "projects" that make it onto the website is pure vaporware.

Insofar as trucks on that stretch of the Triborough Bridge Approach go... yes, there once was a complete ban on trucks there, and that was relaxed years ago. However, there are still size limits in place. Trucks with more than 3 axles, more than 10 wheels, or that are greater than 12'6" in height are still required to exit and use the service road. So, this "project" presumably would have involved reconstruction of that segment of road to have thicker pavement to support larger vehicle loads, and possibly a lowering of the roadway to increase clearance under the 31st St overpass.

It's done. If your truck is 13 ft 11 inches or less, you're  allowed on it.

https://newyorktruckstop.com/2018/10/04/astoria-queens-brooklyn-queens-expressway/

[Mergingtraffic]

A minute of 1980's button copy in Queens.

[roadman65]

Is the Battery Park Underpass on the FDR Drive below Sea Level?  I heard it mentioned that the underpass drops below the Brooklyn- Batter Tunnel Tubes and not over them as one would think, so I would imagine it would be.

Heck, the I-395 tunnel in DC is below Sea Level so it is not really that uncommon I guess for a situation like this.

[kevinb1994]

Is the Battery Park Underpass on the FDR Drive below Sea Level?  I heard it mentioned that the underpass drops below the Brooklyn- Batter Tunnel Tubes and not over them as one would think, so I would imagine it would be.

Heck, the I-395 tunnel in DC is below Sea Level so it is not really that uncommon I guess for a situation like this.

It probably is, as (almost?) anything below ground in and around Battery Park (with the exception of the land immediately surrounding Castle Clinton, although that probably wasn't even there to begin with!) was filled in via landfill.

[SignBridge]

The underpass might be below sea level but even if it is, I would assume that it is above the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel. The tunnel I think starts downhill right at the portal but the underpass should be level once you enter it.

[Alps]

The underpass might be below sea level but even if it is, I would assume that it is above the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel. The tunnel I think starts downhill right at the portal but the underpass should be level once you enter it.

No, it's below.