Diagonal crosswalks do they still exist?

[roadman65]

I was wondering if there are any other intersections besides one on Orange Avenue in Orlando that crosses on a diagonal with the signal stopping traffic in all four directions?

[Big John]

Not sure if this counts as a T-intersection  1st and Cherry in Seattle where the diagonals extent only a few feet into the intersection: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6026057,-122.334181,3a,89.6y,188.07h,85.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6XgJ7LoEaDeOqLQTWnLaag!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D6XgJ7LoEaDeOqLQTWnLaag%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D80.629341%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

[Revive 755]

Chicago added a new diagonal crosswalk a couple of years ago at State and Jackson.  Jackson is one-way EB, and the signal is (was?) timed so the diagonal crossing is only available every other cycle.   Google Aerial

[1995hoo]

Corner of 7th and H Streets NW in DC, a block north of Verizon Center and adjacent to one entrance/exit to/from a very busy subway stop.

The light cycle there is a little peculiar because crossing is not restricted to the "all-way red" phase. DC authorities felt pedestrians would refuse to wait for the walk phase (almost certainly an accurate assumption based on pedestrian behavior throughout downtown) and decided to allow crossing in the same direction as the green light. They decided to ban all turns at the intersection as a result.

[kurumi]

Otherwise known as Pedestrian Scramble (and seen in some other threads here). It's a colorful term but difficult (for me) to remember.

[SignGeek101]

This one is difficult to see:

https://goo.gl/maps/A2ARa

[lordsutch]

There are still a few left in the New Orleans CBD. Not that the streets are typically wide or busy enough for them to help much where they exist.

[jakeroot]

We've already (sort of) had a thread on this in the past: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=15504.0

But, not to be a douchebag and shit all over your thread, yes they exist, and they are quite common. Denver used to have about a billion but removed a lot of them over the last few years. Seattle has quite a few (beyond just the one Big John posted about), and Vancouver, British Columbia also has some.

[M3019C LPS20]

Commonly known as the "Barnes Dance," the pedestrian movement is still in use at certain intersections throughout New York City.

Although Henry Barnes was merely an advocate of it and not the sole creator, the sequence dates as far back as to the early 1930s here in the U.S.

[apjung]

Chinatown in Oakland, CA
https://goo.gl/maps/zbrgp

[Bruce]

The Shibyua scramble in Tokyo, Japan has a marked diagonal crossing:

[peterj920]

Madison, WI has them at intersections that surround the Capitol Buiding

[jeffandnicole]

The Shibyua scramble in Tokyo, Japan has a marked diagonal crossing:

Shame they wasted money on painting crosswalks.

[roadfro]

There are a couple ped scrambles in the Reno—Sparks, NV area:

Virginia St & 2nd St, downtown Reno
Victorian Ave & Victorian Plaza Cir (both intersections), Victorian Square in downtown Sparks

[Rothman]

In reality, there's a scramble at MA 9 and US 5/MA 10 in Northampton, MA, although there isn't a painted diagonal crosswalk.

[mrsman]

Not sure if this counts as a T-intersection  1st and Cherry in Seattle where the diagonals extent only a few feet into the intersection: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6026057,-122.334181,3a,89.6y,188.07h,85.94t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6XgJ7LoEaDeOqLQTWnLaag!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D6XgJ7LoEaDeOqLQTWnLaag%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D80.629341%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656

It certainly counts as a pedestrian scramble since they do allow diagonal crossing.

But it's set up is certainly unique because it is at a T-intersection.  And since the "leg" of the T intersection is one-way outbound, there are only two phases to this intersection, instead of three.

Most Barnes Dances will have three phases:  N/S street, E/W street, all-pedestrian

1st & Cherry:  1st Street autos, all-pedestrian.

[hm insulators]

Waikiki used to have diagonal crosswalks, and they still might be there.

[theline]

I just drove past what is called the "scramble light" on the Ball State University campus. It was there when I was a student, a very long time ago, and it's still going strong. In my day, it emitted a school bell-like sound when the walk phase began, continuing until the wait light came on. Now, that has been replaced with an electronic sound and an audible countdown at the end of the cycle.

[lepidopteran]

One can be seen in the movie Superman III, where Gus (Richard Pryor's character) is hacking into the traffic light computer system and making the ped signals go haywire.  It's not clear where it's located, but the red man/green man ped indications suggest somewhere in Europe or more likely the UK.

[realjd]

I know there are a few in DC like this. The one in Chinatown runs the standard crosswalks in phase with the traffic lights as usual, but also has an all pedestrian phase where all traffic stops and all of the crosswalks activate. They have separate diagonal crosswalk indicators.

[GCrites]

Athens, Ohio still has scramble crossings.

[1995hoo]

I know there are a few in DC like this. The one in Chinatown runs the standard crosswalks in phase with the traffic lights as usual, but also has an all pedestrian phase where all traffic stops and all of the crosswalks activate. They have separate diagonal crosswalk indicators.

Corner of 7th and H Streets NW in DC, a block north of Verizon Center and adjacent to one entrance/exit to/from a very busy subway stop.

The light cycle there is a little peculiar because crossing is not restricted to the "all-way red" phase. DC authorities felt pedestrians would refuse to wait for the walk phase (almost certainly an accurate assumption based on pedestrian behavior throughout downtown) and decided to allow crossing in the same direction as the green light. They decided to ban all turns at the intersection as a result.

[kj3400]

I know there are a few in DC like this. The one in Chinatown runs the standard crosswalks in phase with the traffic lights as usual, but also has an all pedestrian phase where all traffic stops and all of the crosswalks activate. They have separate diagonal crosswalk indicators.

Corner of 7th and H Streets NW in DC, a block north of Verizon Center and adjacent to one entrance/exit to/from a very busy subway stop.

The light cycle there is a little peculiar because crossing is not restricted to the "all-way red" phase. DC authorities felt pedestrians would refuse to wait for the walk phase (almost certainly an accurate assumption based on pedestrian behavior throughout downtown) and decided to allow crossing in the same direction as the green light. They decided to ban all turns at the intersection as a result.

lol
Interestingly enough, I was at 7th and H on Saturday. It was pretty clogged up, at least 7th was. I was waiting for a bus and I was able to walk to a food truck and buy a bottle of water before the bus moved a block to the bus stop.

[jakeroot]

The light cycle there is a little peculiar because crossing is not restricted to the "all-way red" phase. DC authorities felt pedestrians would refuse to wait for the walk phase (almost certainly an accurate assumption based on pedestrian behavior throughout downtown) and decided to allow crossing in the same direction as the green light. They decided to ban all turns at the intersection as a result.

So are most crossings in DC done the European way (all red while pedestrians cross)? I've always thought that was a better idea, barring any jaywalkers who won't wait anyways.

[1995hoo]

The light cycle there is a little peculiar because crossing is not restricted to the "all-way red" phase. DC authorities felt pedestrians would refuse to wait for the walk phase (almost certainly an accurate assumption based on pedestrian behavior throughout downtown) and decided to allow crossing in the same direction as the green light. They decided to ban all turns at the intersection as a result.

So are most crossings in DC done the European way (all red while pedestrians cross)? I've always thought that was a better idea, barring any jaywalkers who won't wait anyways.

Nope. I know of only that one. There could be others. I think there was a proposal for one in Georgetown but I don't know what came of it and I don't go over there very often at all.