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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1100 on: December 18, 2018, 09:57:58 PM »

I'm more interested in those neat Corridor H mile markers. Has that H shield ever been seen on a standalone sign?

No. The shield is only used on the ARC corridor mile markers.

The pre-I-22 US 78 blue-on-white shields featuring "Corridor X" in the surrounding field were actually quite striking; has any other ARC's corridor's route shielding contained corridor ID along with the route number like that example?   One would think that a high-visibility corridor project with significant new-terrain mileage like H would have done something similar with their US 48 signage. 

This style of signage is used on all ARC corridors in West Virginia.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1101 on: December 18, 2018, 10:19:33 PM »

It's more reflective in how West Virginia classifies this highway: not as US 48, or a regular expressway, but as Corridor H, a road type by itself. The mileage is indicative of Corridor H's, not US 48. I'm not aware of other states doing this.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1102 on: December 18, 2018, 10:38:55 PM »

The mileage is indicative of Corridor H's, not US 48.

Won't US 48 and Corridor H be completely the same when it's finished?
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1103 on: December 19, 2018, 09:57:15 AM »

It's more reflective in how West Virginia classifies this highway: not as US 48, or a regular expressway, but as Corridor H, a road type by itself. The mileage is indicative of Corridor H's, not US 48. I'm not aware of other states doing this.

Correct.  WV DOH (remember in WV "county route" is just a name for a road, still under state control, there are no county road departments, meaning a WV DOH county superintendent has a lot of responsibility.

So the DOH chain of command is, sort of, State, District, County.  But the county only has responsibility for all the other roads.  Parallel to the County is an "Expressway Orginization" with its own garage and equipment which operates as a sort of quasi-county.

The Expressway Orginizations will be named "Interstate (number) , Section (number)" or "Corridor (letter), Section (number)".  With the borders ending at a specific mile post, not at a county line.  This is the reason for the blue mile posts.  In house, and to a great degree in the general public, Corridor roads are always "Corridor *" never their US route number. 

As the state moves past the ARC allocation, US 35 now has a "US 35 Expressway Orginization" and, IIRC, WV 9 and US 340 (which have similar mile posts, but using the state or US shield in place of the state outline) share a "Eastern Panhandle Expressway Orginization".

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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1104 on: December 19, 2018, 10:22:02 AM »

I've always advocated that the ADHS corridors should have their own separate logo signage to indicate where the corridor moves from one numbered route to another (as does Corridor J on its run from Chattanooga to London). It could be based on the ARC logo. If I had Photoshop skills, I'd design the sign myself.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1105 on: December 19, 2018, 10:48:02 AM »

I agree.  Although the ARC map is just a hard to decipher blob to most people.  I would not mind just a plain white square as:

APPALACHIAN

        H


CORRIDOR

perhaps with a blue outline and letters.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1106 on: December 19, 2018, 11:38:34 AM »

Isn't it technically (in West Virginia) the Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System? (I think there was a sign out there with that.) So wouldn't a shield have Robert C. Byrd's face in the background, with H in the center? :D
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1107 on: December 19, 2018, 12:35:12 PM »

Among the sweet ironies of fate is the fact that of the 1000 things the old fake and narcissist named for himself, the general public in common use uses exactly none of them in common ordinary language.  No on would say "RC Byrd Appalachian Highway System" or "RC Byrd Locks and Dam" or RC Byrd anything.  People just say the generic name for it, just like most people call it the "Peach Bowl" and not the "Chik-fil-a Peach Bowl".  Even the locals around the Robert C. Byrd High School just say "RCB High" and Marshall University students call the "RC Byrd Biotechnology Science Center" the "biotech building".

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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1108 on: December 19, 2018, 03:04:39 PM »

Isn't it technically (in West Virginia) the Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System? (I think there was a sign out there with that.) So wouldn't a shield have Robert C. Byrd's face in the background, with H in the center? :D

The US 33 portion of Corridor H is the Robert C. Byrd Expressway on the Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System.

Also, US 22 is the Robert C. Byrd Freeway.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1109 on: December 19, 2018, 05:59:28 PM »

Just a white picture of a generic bird ("byrd") with the corridor designation inside on a blue background, with "Appalachian" above and "Corridor" below.  Somehow I don't think the phonetic spelling would make much of a difference to anyone but direct descendants! ;-)
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1110 on: January 08, 2019, 10:57:25 AM »

Maybe they can bring back the old WV Tpk shape and use that for the corridors. At least the signs would be distinctive. Or maybe just white on blue like US 78 in Alabama was before I-22 became signed, even though I know none of the corridors are freeways.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1111 on: January 08, 2019, 11:16:06 AM »

Just a white picture of a generic bird ("byrd") with the corridor designation inside on a blue background, with "Appalachian" above and "Corridor" below.  Somehow I don't think the phonetic spelling would make much of a difference to anyone but direct descendants! ;-)

What kind of byrd would we recommend … a buzzard?
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1112 on: January 08, 2019, 11:43:00 AM »

Maybe they can bring back the old WV Tpk shape and use that for the corridors. At least the signs would be distinctive. Or maybe just white on blue like US 78 in Alabama was before I-22 became signed, even though I know none of the corridors are freeways.

I've always thought the white/blue signage seen on Corridor X/US 78/AL 4 (pre-I-22) was one of the most striking and attractive schemes I'd seen for specifying a specific road classification.  I'd heartily recommend it for general use on all non-Interstate ARC corridors -- including WV.  Such US 48 signage would really "pop" along Corridor "H".  But obviously the cost of deploying all that signage over 20+ corridors may be prohibitive, so despite its appropriateness, it's unlikely to happen without a concerted (and likely subsidized) effort to do so.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1113 on: May 07, 2019, 06:29:44 AM »

Anything new happening on Corridor H this spring?
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1114 on: May 07, 2019, 03:02:16 PM »

Just a white picture of a generic bird ("byrd") with the corridor designation inside on a blue background, with "Appalachian" above and "Corridor" below.  Somehow I don't think the phonetic spelling would make much of a difference to anyone but direct descendants! ;-)

What kind of byrd would we recommend … a buzzard?

A byrd sign should be used for TOTSOs because the sign can emphasize the need to turn! Turn! Turn!
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1115 on: May 07, 2019, 06:25:50 PM »

Just a white picture of a generic bird ("byrd") with the corridor designation inside on a blue background, with "Appalachian" above and "Corridor" below.  Somehow I don't think the phonetic spelling would make much of a difference to anyone but direct descendants! ;-)

What kind of byrd would we recommend … a buzzard?

A byrd sign should be used for TOTSOs because the sign can emphasize the need to turn! Turn! Turn!

And one of the APL BGS' should use "Roger" and the other "Jim" so McGuinn can choose which namesake freeway on which to travel at any particular time! 
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1116 on: May 07, 2019, 07:21:23 PM »

Just a white picture of a generic bird ("byrd") with the corridor designation inside on a blue background, with "Appalachian" above and "Corridor" below.  Somehow I don't think the phonetic spelling would make much of a difference to anyone but direct descendants! ;-)

What kind of byrd would we recommend … a buzzard?

A byrd sign should be used for TOTSOs because the sign can emphasize the need to turn! Turn! Turn!

And one of the APL BGS' should use "Roger" and the other "Jim" so McGuinn can choose which namesake freeway on which to travel at any particular time! 

Once he gets back from Rio, anyway.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1117 on: May 07, 2019, 10:36:19 PM »

Some of the grade accents do leave you thinking you are 8 miles high.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1118 on: May 08, 2019, 09:31:26 AM »

Anything new happening on Corridor H this spring?

I drove thru in early April. Bridge Piers were up where it crosses 219 south of Parsons. Nothing changed where 219 at Kerns ends. One would think they would be cutting trees and moving dirt at this section. You can see from 219 between Montrose and Kerns where dirt is being moved and trees cut. Just not much to see as the route is a bit far from the current 219 alignment. Not sure how the Interchange with WV72 is progressing west of Parsons. Didn't go out that way.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1119 on: May 08, 2019, 10:41:31 PM »

Anything new happening on Corridor H this spring?

I drove thru in early April. Bridge Piers were up where it crosses 219 south of Parsons. Nothing changed where 219 at Kerns ends. One would think they would be cutting trees and moving dirt at this section. You can see from 219 between Montrose and Kerns where dirt is being moved and trees cut. Just not much to see as the route is a bit far from the current 219 alignment. Not sure how the Interchange with WV72 is progressing west of Parsons. Didn't go out that way.

The part up to the WV 72 interchange doesn't go out to bid until later this month.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1120 on: June 04, 2019, 02:02:11 PM »

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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1121 on: July 05, 2019, 10:12:42 PM »

Anything new happening on Corridor H this spring?

I drove thru in early April. Bridge Piers were up where it crosses 219 south of Parsons. Nothing changed where 219 at Kerns ends. One would think they would be cutting trees and moving dirt at this section. You can see from 219 between Montrose and Kerns where dirt is being moved and trees cut. Just not much to see as the route is a bit far from the current 219 alignment. Not sure how the Interchange with WV72 is progressing west of Parsons. Didn't go out that way.

Saw that bridge in April, and the piers imply that this bridge that will carry Corridor H over the "old" 219 and Haddix Run may be the highest bridge yet on West Virginia's part of the project, it looks to be even higher than the structure that carries Corridor H over the Lost River in Hardy County.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1122 on: July 14, 2019, 08:57:42 PM »

I drove US 219 and WV 72 through the construction area today. There is no visible construction at the current end of Corridor H at Kerens, although the stub end is full of construction equipment, offices, and staging.

I got caught in a torrential downpour near the Randolph/Tucker county line. The area where Corridor H will cross US 219 was a mess due to the storm - lots of sediment-filled water running across the old road. There's no sign of any construction from WV 72 north of Parsons.
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Re: Corridor H
« Reply #1123 on: July 16, 2019, 09:07:20 AM »

I see construction being delayed because of the constant rainfall. 2019 will most likely break the 2018 record for many areas.
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