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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #725 on: August 29, 2018, 07:55:23 PM »

Someone here suggested detaching 53 and 120 from being the same project.  I agree.  Build IL120 first.  The rest should fall in line, methinks.

I was thinking something similar.

Build it from the north going south instead of up from Lake Cook.

And then just stop at Lake Zurich Road.  Then "everyone" would have to divert to Old McHenry Road and drive through downtown Long Grove to get back to IL-53.

Then voila!

Yes, its cruel, yes its mean, but yes the complaining would stop.

I find it laughable that they still think that area is "rural".  The only thing left remotely rural are the golf courses and the 20 acre estates owned by Chicago Bears and Chicago Bulls players.

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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #726 on: August 29, 2018, 11:27:11 PM »

an US 12 upgrade is more likely (what about an tolled upper deck?)
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #727 on: August 30, 2018, 02:40:32 PM »

Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #728 on: August 30, 2018, 02:42:08 PM »

Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike

Both should be. Lake Forest and Lincoln are 4 lanes each way and don't really see much in the way of daily backups at least at LF. Lincoln might need a look but I think the backups mainly come from the I-80 merge or the Indy merges
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #729 on: August 30, 2018, 02:58:53 PM »

Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike

Both should be. Lake Forest and Lincoln are 4 lanes each way and don't really see much in the way of daily backups at least at LF. Lincoln might need a look but I think the backups mainly come from the I-80 merge or the Indy merges

The Lincoln Oasis will stay unless you can magically widen the Tri-State over the Thornton Quarry.  There's no more room in that area.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #730 on: August 30, 2018, 03:30:30 PM »

So are they opening new I-Pass service centers to replace the ones that are currently in the oases to be torn down?
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #731 on: August 30, 2018, 03:57:31 PM »

Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike

Both should be. Lake Forest and Lincoln are 4 lanes each way and don't really see much in the way of daily backups at least at LF. Lincoln might need a look but I think the backups mainly come from the I-80 merge or the Indy merges

Lincoln area doesn't get backups in the morning.  They are sporadic in the afternoon.  Worst on Friday afternoons with everyone heading to Michigan for the weekend.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #732 on: August 30, 2018, 04:25:14 PM »

Here we go!! First of two over the road oasis structures on I-294 to be closed permanently on September 5 (two days after Labor Day)...

Article:
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180824/ohare-oasis-pavilion-to-close-for-good-sept-5

Good to know they are keeping most, if not all of, the services nearest the parking lots on either side of the Tollway.  I was under the assumption that the entire Oasis (Including the gas, food and restroom facilities) was to be taken down.  Here it's just the crossover bridge.

The des plaines one is the one that will fully removed.

I certainly hope that the Lake Forest one will be fully kept.  Ditto the Lincoln one in I-80.

Mike
Ever since they removed the access road that allowed me to walk to the LF Oasis from my office I guess I don't care if they keep it or not.

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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #733 on: September 18, 2018, 04:08:13 PM »

I-490 interchange with I-90 was announced, expected completion date of 2023. Tollway site hasn't updated yet but TravelMidwest has it (8th article)

https://www.travelmidwest.com/lmiga/announcements.jsp;jsessionid=EF15639F3AB44C8A5D8DB42D8FBC0FA9?type=construction
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #734 on: September 18, 2018, 05:48:03 PM »

And they call it interstate unlike 390. I wish travel Midwest would explain where it's Illinois arterial information is coming from.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #735 on: September 19, 2018, 02:36:14 PM »

I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #736 on: September 19, 2018, 04:53:09 PM »

390 will likely remain a state highway (just like existing IL-394, and previously existing IL-190, IL-194, IL-594). Only 490 will be an Interstate.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #737 on: September 19, 2018, 08:48:17 PM »

390 will likely remain a state highway (just like existing IL-394, and previously existing IL-190, IL-194, IL-594). Only 490 will be an Interstate.
Any particular justification for why the I-shield for 490, but not the former Elgin-O’Hare Expressway/now IL-390 Tollway?

Then again, I kinda think IL-394 should have the I-shield as well, but alas, such decisions are not mine to make
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #738 on: September 19, 2018, 11:28:34 PM »

390 will likely remain a state highway (just like existing IL-394, and previously existing IL-190, IL-194, IL-594). Only 490 will be an Interstate.
Any particular justification for why the I-shield for 490, but not the former Elgin-O’Hare Expressway/now IL-390 Tollway?

Then again, I kinda think IL-394 should have the I-shield as well, but alas, such decisions are not mine to make

There is a valid reason for IL-394 not being an interstate in that it's not limited access South of US 30. However, IL 390 should be an interstate once I-490 opens.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #739 on: September 20, 2018, 12:01:57 AM »

390 will likely remain a state highway (just like existing IL-394, and previously existing IL-190, IL-194, IL-594). Only 490 will be an Interstate.
Any particular justification for why the I-shield for 490, but not the former Elgin-O’Hare Expressway/now IL-390 Tollway?

Then again, I kinda think IL-394 should have the I-shield as well, but alas, such decisions are not mine to make

There is a valid reason for IL-394 not being an interstate in that it's not limited access South of US 30. However, IL 390 should be an interstate once I-490 opens.

IDOT has a long range plan to upgrade IL 394 to interstate standards from the Bishop Ford junction to somewhere around Crete. Even the limited access section needs some upgrades to get it there. If CSX ever builds their planned intermodal yard south of Crete, traffic will pick up some. A lot of at-grade intersections to convert when/if it ever comes to pass.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #740 on: September 20, 2018, 12:13:59 AM »

I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate. I actually like those kinds of roads (non interstate freeways). I wonder if there's a way to find out how many each state has.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #741 on: September 20, 2018, 12:16:11 AM »

I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate. I actually like those kinds of roads (non interstate freeways). I wonder if there's a way to find out how many each state has.
Some have already been mentioned, but IL certainly has its share

In terms of a Nationwide List by State, no idea
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #742 on: September 20, 2018, 09:10:40 AM »

I-490 interchange with I-90 was announced, expected completion date of 2023. Tollway site hasn't updated yet but TravelMidwest has it (8th article)

https://www.travelmidwest.com/lmiga/announcements.jsp;jsessionid=EF15639F3AB44C8A5D8DB42D8FBC0FA9?type=construction

I did find this site on the Tollway website (Although the link has no information on the project yet.). https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/490/90-interchange.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #743 on: September 20, 2018, 10:31:23 AM »

I-490 interchange with I-90 was announced, expected completion date of 2023. Tollway site hasn't updated yet but TravelMidwest has it (8th article)

https://www.travelmidwest.com/lmiga/announcements.jsp;jsessionid=EF15639F3AB44C8A5D8DB42D8FBC0FA9?type=construction

I did find this site on the Tollway website (Although the link has no information on the project yet.). https://www.illinoistollway.com/projects/490/90-interchange.

Yeah I find it odd how TravelMidwest got the pics before it was even posted under the link on the Tollway website
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #744 on: September 20, 2018, 05:19:07 PM »

I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate.

Never said they should.  These two however, are worthy. 
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #745 on: September 20, 2018, 11:32:21 PM »

I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate.

Never said they should.  These two however, are worthy.

Too short of a span to be, in fact I don't even think 190, 290 etc should be interstates because of the short spans as well.
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« Reply #746 on: September 20, 2018, 11:37:37 PM »

I like their optimism.  390 and 490 should be interstates.

Not every limited/controlled access roadway needs to be an interstate.

Never said they should.  These two however, are worthy.

Too short of a span to be, in fact I don't even think 190, 290 etc should be interstates because of the short spans as well.

I-290 is 30 miles. How long do you think one should be for it to be given a blue shield?
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #747 on: September 21, 2018, 10:44:54 AM »

IDOT isn't the type of agency that would create a state highway with a 3di number unless they thought it had a chance of becoming an interstate.  (I know these are ISTHA highways but IDOT is still the agency that assigns the numbers)
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #748 on: September 21, 2018, 05:54:21 PM »

Did IDOT try on 394? I think they did on 255 downstate.
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Re: Illinois Tollway Notes
« Reply #749 on: September 22, 2018, 12:41:57 AM »

IDOT isn't the type of agency that would create a state highway with a 3di number unless they thought it had a chance of becoming an interstate.  (I know these are ISTHA highways but IDOT is still the agency that assigns the numbers)

IDOT does the application to AASHTO with their requested number but they don't always get it.

For example the Peoria Cutoff was requested with I-37. It ended up being I-155.
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