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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #500 on: June 24, 2022, 12:01:26 PM »

How about updating this now to reflect the new interstate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson,_North_Carolina
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #501 on: June 24, 2022, 12:43:31 PM »

In due time roadman65, in due time.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #502 on: June 26, 2022, 10:54:57 AM »

Greenville newspaper article regarding signing of I-587 which indicates a slow timeline for sign updates due to 'supply change issues' for aluminum signs. It also quotes an NCDOT official saying "about 900 signs will be changed out intermittently at a cost of about $9 million." Does that number seem reasonable? 37 miles of 1/2 mile markers in each direction yields only about 150 signs and there are less than 20 exits needing new reassurance and trailblazer markers along with exit number changes between I-95 and Greenville. Perhaps this includes US 264 sign changes as well:
https://www.reflector.com/news/local/community-celebrates-signage-for-interstate-587/article_6ba29ba2-29cd-51dd-a31d-ecfff55cbf02.html

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #503 on: June 26, 2022, 09:24:31 PM »

$10,000 a sign seems about right. I know they are expensive. What grinds my gears is all these future I-74 signs that have been along the Wilmington to Charlotte corridor for 15-20 years now and by the time NCDOT gets the whole corridor upgraded, probably 2040, maybe 2035, but it will be time to replace those I-74 signs just as the I-74 goes from future to reality.

I think some of that money could go to get some lights along various rural BUT busy interchanges and replace some of these ugly chicken wire traffic lights with mast arms.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #504 on: June 28, 2022, 01:51:39 AM »

I-587 is now posted:

https://www.witn.com/2022/06/22/section-roadway-becomes-interstate-new-signs-be-unveiled/

Thanks to Tracy Snead for contacting me with this information...
This should please tolbs17.

Also, it is great that NCDOT decided to post I-587 as East-West.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #505 on: June 28, 2022, 10:30:12 AM »

So should this be updated to remove the future from the thread title?
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #506 on: June 28, 2022, 11:51:22 AM »

So should this be updated to remove the future from the thread title?

Itís still a future Interstate from Zebulon to Wilson.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #507 on: June 28, 2022, 02:45:01 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/FT843kuYLVTp6MBi8
Another Breezewood between interstates now as the lack of connection to I-795 south requires a use of US 301 South.


I would like to know now if the exit numbers will remain until NCDOT converts the rest of US 264 to standards, or not?
« Last Edit: June 28, 2022, 04:36:51 PM by roadman65 »
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #508 on: June 28, 2022, 04:56:23 PM »

https://goo.gl/maps/FT843kuYLVTp6MBi8
Another Breezewood between interstates now as the lack of connection to I-795 south requires a use of US 301 South.

Still not as bad as Breezewood in the sense that you don't have to use a surface route in order to remain on the same interstate, and US-301 doesn't have as much traffic as US-30 in Breezewood.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #509 on: June 28, 2022, 05:20:00 PM »

^ I donít understand the Breezewood reference every time there is a gap between connecting from one interstate to another. Itís not the same situation.

I-70 at Breezewood is being forced to exit onto surface roads to remain on the same interstate.

In this case, I-587 and I-795 are continuous highways. You only exit when transferring from I-795 North to I-587 East and vice versa.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #510 on: June 28, 2022, 08:07:22 PM »

And this tiny stretch of 301 hardly resembles the fast food sprawl menagerie that is ironically called Breezewood. A flyover from 587E to 795S would see even less traffic than the absurd 85S to 40E flyover.

Edit: Yeah. What LM117 said.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #511 on: June 29, 2022, 10:39:50 AM »

^ I donít understand the Breezewood reference every time there is a gap between connecting from one interstate to another. Itís not the same situation.

I-70 at Breezewood is being forced to exit onto surface roads to remain on the same interstate.

In this case, I-587 and I-795 are continuous highways. You only exit when transferring from I-795 North to I-587 East and vice versa.


Iím talking Roadgeek terminology, not comparison.  Any surface roadway between two freeways  instead of direct connection in general is a Breezewood no matter what route number or how many fast foods it has or doesnít have.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #512 on: July 01, 2022, 11:53:02 PM »

587 west Wilson signed on 2 BGS's approaching from the south on Greenville Bypass. Remains 264 on overheads once you arrive at ramps. Nice surprise today.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #513 on: July 02, 2022, 04:03:34 PM »

$10,000 a sign seems about right. I know they are expensive. What grinds my gears is all these future I-74 signs that have been along the Wilmington to Charlotte corridor for 15-20 years now and by the time NCDOT gets the whole corridor upgraded, probably 2040, maybe 2035, but it will be time to replace those I-74 signs just as the I-74 goes from future to reality.

I think some of that money could go to get some lights along various rural BUT busy interchanges and replace some of these ugly chicken wire traffic lights with mast arms.

All I know is that those wineries that have the white signs with grapes that are built to official sign standards cost $55,000. I read that in NCDOT documents several years ago.

I know they must have engineering drawings with details of the footings, etc. and sight lines/ distances must be approved by an engineer and then the fabrication costs.

i don't know if that included one sign in each direction or if it was per sign.

The "FUTURE I-74" signs are for converying that info now. Yes, it's a shame that 20 years will pass before it's a reality,  but they have to spread funds across the whole state with a thin, skim coat, lol.

I hate the wood sign posts they've implemented in the last few years. I hope that's a temporary practice.

California uses wood posts extensively for ground-mounted signs but I still don't like 'em.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #514 on: July 02, 2022, 05:46:00 PM »

587 west Wilson signed on 2 BGS's approaching from the south on Greenville Bypass. Remains 264 on overheads once you arrive at ramps. Nice surprise today.
I suspected as such. Don't think it's a coincidence that the traffic camera at the now I-587/NC 11 Bypass interchange has been turned away for overlooking the overhead signs at the NC 11 Bypass NB ramps ever since the announcement that I-587 was being signed. I suspect the overheads, as well as exit renumbering, are part of another contract that is to be let over the summer. Therefore only mile markers and ground mounted shield signs would be the ones currently installed.

Update - The NCDOT camera has been moved to once again show the overhead exit sign for I-587 East. The overhead, as indicated above, however, still has a US 264 shield.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2022, 11:31:27 AM by bob7374 »
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #515 on: July 06, 2022, 08:13:48 PM »

Will US 264/existing-future Interstate 587 have to wait until Interstate 87 reaches the US 64/264 spilt, and 587 connects with that interchange before the exits along existing 264 are renumbered to reflect Interstate 587's mileage?
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #516 on: July 06, 2022, 09:14:35 PM »

Will US 264/existing-future Interstate 587 have to wait until Interstate 87 reaches the US 64/264 spilt, and 587 connects with that interchange before the exits along existing 264 are renumbered to reflect Interstate 587's mileage?

No. In fact, NCDOT has a contract to renumber all of the exits on US 264 to I-587's mileage as well as add the I-587 shields.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #517 on: July 06, 2022, 11:28:42 PM »

Will US 264/existing-future Interstate 587 have to wait until Interstate 87 reaches the US 64/264 spilt, and 587 connects with that interchange before the exits along existing 264 are renumbered to reflect Interstate 587's mileage?

No. In fact, NCDOT has a contract to renumber all of the exits on US 264 to I-587's mileage as well as add the I-587 shields.

I can't find the contract information, but it appears that the signage contract related to renumbering the exits on I-587 will be limited to the posted section east of I-95.  Presumably, those exits along the multiplex with I-795 will be renumbered with the new sequence for I-587 rather than I-795.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #518 on: July 07, 2022, 11:37:54 AM »

They've put up at least one I-587 shield along the I-795/US 264 section in Wilson, bringing about only the second 3di concurrency in the country, photo courtesy of Shaun White:


The contractors do know that interstates have blue directional banners?

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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #519 on: July 07, 2022, 02:08:58 PM »

It would be insane if it was that Shaun White, but I seriously doubt that.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #520 on: July 07, 2022, 09:21:36 PM »

What's with the white direction signs on the two Interstates? Shouldn't they be blue like Interstate directional shields usually are?
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #521 on: July 08, 2022, 12:03:42 AM »

^271/480 is the only other one I can think of.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #522 on: July 08, 2022, 12:34:59 AM »

And there will be another 3di concurrency in North Carolina once NCDOT completes the "missing gap" from N Elm Street to US 29/I-785 in Greensboro.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #523 on: July 08, 2022, 02:37:08 AM »

And there will be another 3di concurrency in North Carolina once NCDOT completes the "missing gap" from N Elm Street to US 29/I-785 in Greensboro.
It's already under construction, it will be complete within the next year or so.
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Re: Future Interstate 587 (Zebulon-Greenville)
« Reply #524 on: July 08, 2022, 01:23:38 PM »

They've put up at least one I-587 shield along the I-795/US 264 section in Wilson, bringing about only the second 3di concurrency in the country, photo courtesy of Shaun White:


The contractors do know that interstates have blue directional banners?

Oof. That white banner/I-shield combo is fugly. :thumbdown:
« Last Edit: July 08, 2022, 01:32:13 PM by LM117 »
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