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State highway shields in the wrong state
« on: August 04, 2018, 05:45:40 PM »

The other day I traveled to Fort Recovery, Ohio and noticed that Ohio SR-119 ends at the state line with Indiana then becomes Indiana SR-26. While I was still in Ohio I noticed an Indiana SR-26 sign at the corner of Butler and Wayne Street, this sign is about 1.3 miles east of the state line still within the state of Ohio. I have never noticed anything like this before and it looks like it has a straight arrow under the Indiana 26 sign meaning that it's TO Indiana SR-26 but why would they do this? Why wouldn't they just have an Ohio state highway shield with 119 in it?

It honestly made me think am I in Indiana already? And then I traveled west to the state line and saw the Welcome to Indiana sign so this struck me as odd. Fort Recovery is indeed a hick town though too.
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2018, 06:20:28 PM »

Not a "state", but there's a Yukon Territory 9 route marker on Alaska state route 5. AK 5 takes you to YT 9, so the YT 9 marker in Alaska makes a lot of sense.

Ditto several Interstate route markers, and at least one U.S. route marker, in Quebec well back from the border.

There's at least one ON 401 route marker on I-81 approaching the border, even though you have to travel a short connecting route to get to the 401 after you cross the border.
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2018, 06:58:19 PM »


There's NO state route 244 in Oklahoma, but AR 244 becomes OK 51. This was a construction detour along 244.


Also OK 20/AR 43/MO 43


Missouri I-35 sign in Iowa (near the state line)
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2018, 07:16:55 PM »

WV 7's official western terminus is the Ohio state line -- which, of course, involves an Ohio River bridge crossing. The bridge connects to OH 7; the signage in West Virginia has the word "Ohio" and an OH 7 marker even though the route is technically WV 7. There's an unsigned concurrency with WV 2 that leads from the WV 2/WV 7 intersection (leading to WV 20/Clarksburg/Morgantown) south of (can't think of the town name; think it's New Martinsville, all those Ohio River towns between Wheeling and Parkersburg run together for me), through town, and to the bridge.

This could probably have been prevented had WV 7 been truncated at WV 20 and WV 20 was continued on to WV 2, along the concurrency, and across the bridge.

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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2018, 07:54:19 PM »

CA 62 appears on a guide sign from AZ 95 in Parker, granted it does say “To CA 62.”

62CAb by Max Rockatansky, on Flickr
« Last Edit: August 04, 2018, 10:43:58 PM by Max Rockatansky »
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2018, 10:40:50 PM »

There are WIS 82 shields at the IA 9/IA 26 junction in Lansing, IA where 9 and 82 cross the Black Hawk Bridge.
MN 95 shield on westbound I-94 in Hudson, WI and a WIS 35 shield on 94 eastbound in Lakeland, MN.
Believe there is a MN 95 shield in Osceola, WI at the beginning of WIS 243.
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2018, 11:28:26 PM »

Several approaching the Woodrow Wilson Bridge in both Maryland and Virginia:

I-95 Southbound/Inner Loop I-495 (in Maryland):

1, 2, 3, 4

I-95 Northbound/Outer Loop I-495 (in Virginia):

1, 2
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2018, 01:26:12 AM »

CA 62 appears on a guide sign from AZ 95 in Parker, granted it does say “To CA 62.”

62CAb by Max Rockatansky, on Flickr

Very strange that they used a state name instead of a control city
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2018, 01:46:13 AM »

CA 62 appears on a guide sign from AZ 95 in Parker, granted it does say “To CA 62.”

62CAb by Max Rockatansky, on Flickr

Very strange that they used a state name instead of a control city

Unless an obscure on-route city like 29 Palms was used, in that neck of the woods the phrase "what control city?" would be appropriate.   At least the reference to CA lets the driver know that they're about to depart AZ!
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2018, 01:56:31 AM »

Utah has a decent opportunity to do this with WY 89, but I highly doubt they do. Wyoming thinks WY 89 runs concurrent with UT 16 and 30 in Utah, but I just can’t see UDOT putting any “TO WY 89” signs up. WY 89 was Wyoming’s way of trying to keep southbound US 89 traffic in Wyoming longer, confusing drivers off of US 89 which serves Idaho and Utah instead. Utah probably wouldn’t want to go along with Wyoming’s plan to remove traffic from their state!



CA 62 appears on a guide sign from AZ 95 in Parker, granted it does say “To CA 62.”

62CAb by Max Rockatansky, on Flickr

Very strange that they used a state name instead of a control city

Unless an obscure on-route city like 29 Palms was used, in that neck of the woods the phrase "what control city?" would be appropriate.   At least the reference to CA lets the driver know that they're about to depart AZ!

There’s a similar situation in Grand Junction, where the I-70 westbound control is “Utah”. Because what else would you use? They used to use Green River, but the population there is less than 1000. Richfield isn’t terrible, but maybe not the best for a control city—especially because more than half of the I-70 traffic is going to exit onto US 6 anyway.

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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2018, 07:31:24 AM »

CA 62 appears on a guide sign from AZ 95 in Parker, granted it does say “To CA 62.”

62CAb by Max Rockatansky, on Flickr

Very strange that they used a state name instead of a control city

Unless an obscure on-route city like 29 Palms was used, in that neck of the woods the phrase "what control city?" would be appropriate.   At least the reference to CA lets the driver know that they're about to depart AZ!

Trouble with 29 Palms is that it is well over 100 miles to the west.  I’d argue about half of CA 62 traffic ends up taking US 95 from Vidal Junction towards Needles to reach Las Vegas.  Truly it is such a barren area that there isn’t much explanation needed on a control city.
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2018, 09:35:02 AM »

I can think of a couple.  There is one on CT 197 in Thompson, CT for MA 31 that is a CT shield, despite being about 40 miles from the actual CT 31 (or CR 31 as Google Maps continues to mislabel it).
https://goo.gl/maps/mdqna14RASU2

Another one is on NY 22 in Canaan for MA 102.  It is a crude white square made to look like a MA shield that looks more like an IL shield with the little Mass over the 102.
https://goo.gl/maps/uJyyAqcdYFC2
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2018, 11:11:30 AM »

CA 62 appears on a guide sign from AZ 95 in Parker, granted it does say “To CA 62.”

62CAb by Max Rockatansky, on Flickr

Very strange that they used a state name instead of a control city
That's common around the Chicago area. Indiana and Wisconsin are used for I-90 and I-94 and I think I've seen Iowa used before somewhere too but can't remember where that was.

This is an example on the EB Eisenhower Expressway approaching the Circle Interchange where it meets up with the Kennedy and Dan Ryan.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8753028,-87.6521855,3a,75y,77.68h,90.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdN4xTFh5WemzNDTfuU2q7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2018, 11:43:54 AM »

The Indiana Toll Road (exit 96) makes a reasonable attempt at an M-217 shield.


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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2018, 12:46:08 PM »

NJ 90 appears on signs in Philadelphia, largely because the (very short) section of freeway inside PA does not have its own number. NJ 23 appears on signs in PA and NY for similar reasons. Well, sometimes they mistakenly use an NY 23 sign, and sometimes it appears like this:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3544801,-74.6846766,3a,75y,80.95h,96.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swDBy9Rf_qB1Qxuja7lV3nQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Other odd signage on NJ 23 and not-quite 23:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3557767,-74.682493,3a,75y,212.13h,86.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTGJ6-6M1HO_FF0Zr8sIysQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (the TO should apply to I-84 as well)
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3477901,-74.6863846,3a,75y,189.05h,90.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRo9uctU8hxtZuCIcvu5cEA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (Sussex County apparently doesn't want any credit for all the gas stations and restaurants serving I-84, all within its borders)
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2018, 02:09:39 PM »

Utah has a decent opportunity to do this with WY 89, but I highly doubt they do. Wyoming thinks WY 89 runs concurrent with UT 16 and 30 in Utah, but I just can’t see UDOT putting any “TO WY 89” signs up. WY 89 was Wyoming’s way of trying to keep southbound US 89 traffic in Wyoming longer, confusing drivers off of US 89 which serves Idaho and Utah instead. Utah probably wouldn’t want to go along with Wyoming’s plan to remove traffic from their state!

Idaho acknowledges WYO 89 though on Idaho 61, with signs that appear to have been lent directly by WYDOT.



and then on Idaho 61

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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2018, 02:17:29 PM »

Here's several off the top of my head in addition to ones that have already been mentioned:

Washington 9 from BC-11


BCs 15 and 99 from I-5


Oregon 11 from Washington 125 (this is gone now)


Idaho 53 from Washington 290 for some reason


Arizonas 68 and 95 from Nevada 163


A ridiculous attempt at a Mexico 45 shield in Texas


A similarly ridiculous attempt at a New Mexico 273 shield in Texas


An attempt at an SD 1806 shield in North Dakota


A North Dakota 49 shield in South Dakota

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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2018, 03:55:17 PM »

I always liked this now-long-gone sign in Keokee, Va.

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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2018, 10:04:31 PM »

Near Ivy Lea, on the 1,000 Islands Parkway in Ontario
(Note that all the Parkway guide signs have gold text on green)




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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2018, 10:16:46 PM »

An attempt at an SD 1806 shield in North Dakota
http://www.corcohighways.org/highways/nd/24/6to1806/3.jpg

"Attempt" is being really generous with that description. :-D
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2018, 10:22:22 PM »

That's common around the Chicago area. Indiana and Wisconsin are used for I-90 and I-94 and I think I've seen Iowa used before somewhere too but can't remember where that was.

This is an example on the EB Eisenhower Expressway approaching the Circle Interchange where it meets up with the Kennedy and Dan Ryan.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8753028,-87.6521855,3a,75y,77.68h,90.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdN4xTFh5WemzNDTfuU2q7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Iowa tends to be used on I-80 and also on I-88 for West movements in IL. The I-80/I-294 West/North Multiplex at the south end of the Tri-State has Control “Cities” of Iowa and Wisconsin

MoDOT uses Illinois as a Control for I-55 North and I-64 East approaching the Poplar Street Bridge and for I-70 East approaching the Stan Musial Bridge

There are other places State names appear as Controls, scattered across the Interstate System
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2018, 10:27:13 PM »

Virtually every control city on I-294 uses Wisconsin or Indiana.

There are Indiana/Illinois state route shields in the opposite states on BGSs along the Kingery/Borman expressway for IN 152, IL 83, and I believe IL 394.
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2018, 10:32:24 PM »

Crediting billburmaster.com’s page on I-65 in Indiana...

Found this fun one, with the Indiana Toll Road Shield, as well as Indiana State Name Interstate Shields for 65, 80, 90, and 94, in the city if Chicago


Sourced from http://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/indiana/interstate/65in.html
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2018, 10:36:57 PM »

Ah yes, how could we forget the most famous sign in Chicago?
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Re: State highway shields in the wrong state
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2018, 11:08:25 PM »

This New Hampshire 113B shield is technically in Stow, Maine. Route 113B is a loop route off ME 113 that connects to the town of Chatham, NH. MaineDOT does not sign their portion, so NHDOT installed their own shield at its southern end. This means that New Hampshire has a numbered suffix route for a parent route that isn't their own (there does exist an NH 113 elsewhere, however).

ME 113 also actually briefly crosses into New Hampshire not once, but twice (once near Fryeburg, again north of Stow). Their segments in the Granite State are maintained by NHDOT, and signed with their version of a Maine route shield.

Further south along the same border, the roles get reversed when NH 153 briefly crosses into Parsonsfield, Maine. The road is maintained by MaineDOT, though it's signed with their standard issued white square shields rather than New Hampshire's Old Man.
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