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MASTERNC

Quote from: ixnay on July 13, 2025, 08:52:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on July 13, 2025, 07:15:57 PMAt least the US 1 project between the PA Tpke and the R3 is all wrapped up (except minor punchlist, finished pavement at bridge ends, and ramp stop ahead sign removing). My shortcut to shunpiking as much of the Turnpike as I can is now a lot less stressful.

"The R3"?  :confused:

The SEPTA West Trenton Line?  Think R3 was the old line name.

ixnay

Quote from: MASTERNC on July 14, 2025, 08:55:46 AM
Quote from: ixnay on July 13, 2025, 08:52:09 PM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on July 13, 2025, 07:15:57 PMAt least the US 1 project between the PA Tpke and the R3 is all wrapped up (except minor punchlist, finished pavement at bridge ends, and ramp stop ahead sign removing). My shortcut to shunpiking as much of the Turnpike as I can is now a lot less stressful.

"The R3"?  :confused:

The SEPTA West Trenton Line?  Think R3 was the old line name.

Ah yes, the R1 thru 3 and R5 thru 8 (SEPTA never used R4).  IIRC the R3 on the ex-Pennsy RR/Penn Central side of the system went out to West Chester before it was cut back to Elwyn.

I hardly referred to the SEPTA Regional Rail lines as "the R[number]", but rather by their destinations.  I don't really miss the "R" labeling.  But that's a topic for AARoads' Mass Transit board.

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roadman65

I saw that someone on Facebook posted on oe of those articles that get facts wrong, that the lack of interchange between PA 378 and I-78 near Bethlehem was done because a powerful municipal politician requested that PennDOT not create such an exchange.

Does anyone know if that statement is true? After all it seems odd that a major N-S roadway has no connection to a major E- W freeway especially that I-78 is not a turnpike needing limited interchanges.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

The Ghostbuster

Given the angle Interstate 78 was constructed over PA 378, it likely would have been difficult to construct an interchange there.

roadman65

IMO I'm glad they limited interchanges along I-78.  It reduces sprawl along the corridor.

Keeping one in both Easton and Bethlehem was a good idea.  Allentown only has many because that part of I-78 was preexisting PA 309 established with many ramps already.

Even in NJ not connecting I-78 to Carpentersville Road or Route 519 was a great move.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

MASTERNC

Quote from: roadman65 on August 26, 2025, 10:17:46 AMIMO I'm glad they limited interchanges along I-78.  It reduces sprawl along the corridor.

Keeping one in both Easton and Bethlehem was a good idea.  Allentown only has many because that part of I-78 was preexisting PA 309 established with many ramps already.

Even in NJ not connecting I-78 to Carpentersville Road or Route 519 was a great move.

Unlike US 22, which is a mess

74/171FAN

The US 11 NB/US 15 NB sign at I-81 SB has finally been replaced with a monotube.

US 11 AND US 15 NORTH AT I-81 SOUTH by Mark Moore, on Flickr
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plain

Quote from: 74/171FAN on August 31, 2025, 07:21:58 PMThe US 11 NB/US 15 NB sign at I-81 SB has finally been replaced with a monotube.

US 11 AND US 15 NORTH AT I-81 SOUTH by Mark Moore, on Flickr

Maybe it's just the angle of the pic, but it looks like it's leaning a bit.
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roadman65

Is the section of PA 283 south of PA 230's southern terminus part of old US 230?

I remember someone on here commenting about the jersey wall on Route 283 south of PA 230 and how north of PA 230 it has a wider grassier median had something to do with an arterial becoming freeway, but can't remember if that poster said or not it was US 230.
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Bitmapped

Quote from: roadman65 on September 06, 2025, 08:23:03 AMIs the section of PA 283 south of PA 230's southern terminus part of old US 230?

I remember someone on here commenting about the jersey wall on Route 283 south of PA 230 and how north of PA 230 it has a wider grassier median had something to do with an arterial becoming freeway, but can't remember if that poster said or not it was US 230.

Yes, older Pennsylvania maps show this as US 230 and then PA 230 before becoming PA 283. The 1960 map shows it as a divided highway, so I think this was a new alignment rather than an upgrade of an early one. PA's 1950s standards would lead to the narrow median you see today.

The Ghostbuster

PA 283 should be numbered as part of PA 230. Does it cause confusion to have a PA 283 connect with Interstate 283?

Rothman

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on Today at 11:11:56 AMPA 283 should be numbered as part of PA 230. Does it cause confusion to have a PA 283 connect with Interstate 283?

No.
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jpi

Quote from: Bitmapped on Today at 10:58:27 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 06, 2025, 08:23:03 AMIs the section of PA 283 south of PA 230's southern terminus part of old US 230?

I remember someone on here commenting about the jersey wall on Route 283 south of PA 230 and how north of PA 230 it has a wider grassier median had something to do with an arterial becoming freeway, but can't remember if that poster said or not it was US 230.

Yes, older Pennsylvania maps show this as US 230 and then PA 230 before becoming PA 283. The 1960 map shows it as a divided highway, so I think this was a new alignment rather than an upgrade of an early one. PA's 1950s standards would lead to the narrow median you see today.

Yes, this was a new alignment that by-passed Harrisburg pike (the old alignment) Yes 283 from the 30 split to Mt Joy remainds me of 83 in York County because they were built around the same time frame. You can say the same for I-78 from Fredricksburg east to Fogelsville and I-70 from New Stanton west to Washington too.
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