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Saving a draft
« on: February 08, 2019, 11:30:13 PM »

A suggested feature: being able to save posts as drafts, so that you can finish them up for later.

I'm aware that text saves whenever you back out of the "create new post/start new topic" window, but it's lost whenever you close the forum tab. I have no idea how useful it'd be for other people, but IMO it's great whenever typing up lengthy trip reports or posts or what-have-you. I guess I could be the only one (this is the only topic after all, I checked), with everyone else "saving" their text by opening up their history and returning to this screen, copy-pasting, or some other method.

Editing a draft would essentially be the same as writing a post - access to smileys, able to embed images, able to do basic formatting like font size changes, etc.
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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2019, 12:03:35 AM »

I would absolutely love this feature. I sometimes start posts only to forget them and then come back later to finish working on them. Saving drafts means that I don't have to worry about keeping tabs open just so I can continue working on my posts. It would be a life saver!
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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2019, 12:24:11 AM »

At least in 2010 SMF had a mod that allowed users to save drafts. I don't know if the admins necessarily want a bunch of drafts loose in the system. Maybe if the mod comes with a delete feature for anything that hasn't been touched in 1 month or more. But I also don't know if a mod from 2010 has any applicability in 2018.

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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2019, 08:02:47 AM »

I sometimes copy and paste a draft post into Notepad (or whatever the iOS equivalent is called) as a way of saving a draft if I want to look at something in another tab while I’m writing the post or if I get interrupted. Reason: Sometimes when I switch tabs and switch back iOS will refresh the page such that I’d lose my draft post.

It’s not a perfect method, but it works. Or, as my brother likes to say on the golf course, it’s “ugly but effective.”
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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2019, 11:26:18 AM »

If it's a long post, just write it in Notepad/MS Word/word processor of choice first, and then copy/paste it into the post submission. That's what I have done in the past.
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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2019, 02:44:46 AM »

This sounds like a lifesaver and would be great if it could happen, but I understand if it is not actually feasibly applicable, as noted. There have been many times when typing a lengthy post on my phone where the tab would refresh and it would all be lost. I have tried to counter this occurrence by recently starting to do the mentioned trick of periodically copying my draft into my phone notes to keep it saved. Though, even on a PC, this could still be useful for posts or threads that are just so insanely long that they might not be able to be done in less than a few hours, or even an entire day. That might sound crazy, but what comes to mind is an extremely involved thread I have been thinking about creating soon (involving some immensely complex calculations regarding a particular topic in relation to roads) - that is if it hasn't already been done on here or somewhere else. I will have to do a lot of research and calculations, and there will be a lot to say in the OP (and it may need to be split into a few different posts), so I will probably have to work on this in a Word Document on the computer then actually post the final product when it is all complete. As a matter of fact, something to that magnitude would probably be too much for any draft-saving commodities (so a Word Document will do) - but for all the smaller stuff, this draft-saving feature could be great, if possible. If it cannot be done, then phone notes and Word Documents (on PC and laptops) will suffice just fine, but this is indeed a really interesting idea.


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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2019, 12:00:09 PM »

If it's a long post, just write it in Notepad/MS Word/word processor of choice first, and then copy/paste it into the post submission. That's what I have done in the past.

That's what I do for my longer posts, such as my recent trip reports (and another in progress). Also, if my Internet connection is flaking out, or something else is keeping me from submitting a post, I'll copy my draft to WordPad, so I can restore it if it gets lost by the time I fix the problem.
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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2019, 09:02:28 PM »

When you commit a post on this forum, it is sent to the server as form-submission postdata that is URL-encoded plain text.  Formatting is therefore lost unless it is explicitly marked up as bbCode.  For that reason alone, I would use Notepad or another plain text editor to keep system overhead to a minimum.  (Other forum software packages offer the ability to accept formatting through clipboard copy-and-paste from a rich-format word processor and also to allow you to compose formatted text in the browser without typing in bbCode directly.  I find they do not work well, however--e.g., italics fail to toggle on and off reliably--so I think we are better off with what we are currently using.)

It is also not a bad idea to have a mechanism for archiving your own posts that you can run with a keystroke combination immediately before you commit a post.  This ensures you have a copy of your own work if your post is deleted, heavily edited, or moved out of sight.  My own "Post Archiver" script (see below) is a wrapper around a command-line clipboard dump utility.  To archive a post, I just hit Ctrl+A to select all, Ctrl+C to copy, and then Ctrl+Alt+P (custom Windows keystroke combination) to archive.  (NB:  the code to generate the date string is not culture-neutral; it yields YYYYMMDD-HHMMSS strings on my local PC, which uses British date/time format, but will need modification for a Windows machine using American date/time format.)

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echo %DATE% %TIME%
set MTH=%DATE:~3,2%
set MTH=%MTH: =0%
set DAY=%DATE:~0,2%
set DAY=%DAY: =0%
set YR=%DATE:~6,4%
set HR=%TIME:~0,2%
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set MIN=%TIME:~3,2%
set SEC=%TIME:~6,2%
set MYDATE=%YR%-%MTH%-%DAY%-%HR%%MIN%%SEC%
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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2019, 09:06:06 PM »

A suggested feature: being able to save posts as drafts, so that you can finish them up for later.

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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2019, 09:46:04 PM »

There's quite a few browser extensions out there for Form recovery, which would auto save a cached copy of any form fill (including posts and replies). I use Typio for Chrome myself, and it's pretty good at restoring text during interruptions.

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Re: Saving a draft
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2019, 02:38:03 PM »

For long trip reports and the like, I usually write up the whole thing in Word, then simply copy and paste the text into this forum.  I manually type my formatting anyway, so that doesn't bother me at all.
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