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Re: North Dakota
« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2023, 10:28:16 PM »

Kind of pointless, though, if you do the math.  A 75 mph trip across North Dakota on I-94 is not even 30 minutes slower than a trip across North Dakota at 80 mph on I-94.
The relationship between speed and travel time is non-linear.

I mean, it feels a heck of a lot faster (admittedly subjective, as a runner I am very familiar with the inverse relationship between travel time and speed). Maybe it's just because my dad drove slower than 75 growing up, so now 80 (or 85 if I'm in a rush) feels like teleportation.
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Re: North Dakota
« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2023, 05:59:49 PM »

Governor Burgum has vetoed the 80 MPH bill. Guess it's up to see how much appetite the legislature may have to override.

He added on the original ND House passage for 80 MPH did not have a veto-proof majority, so it's probably not good on that front.

https://twitter.com/JackFromNoDak/status/1641439333264814088
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Re: North Dakota
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2023, 12:53:56 AM »

What a fucker
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Re: North Dakota
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2023, 01:04:45 AM »

Governor Burgum has vetoed the 80 MPH bill. Guess it's up to see how much appetite the legislature may have to override.

He added on the original ND House passage for 80 MPH did not have a veto-proof majority, so it's probably not good on that front.

https://twitter.com/JackFromNoDak/status/1641439333264814088

WHY??  :banghead:
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Re: North Dakota
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2023, 09:40:11 AM »

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The increased risk runs counter to the goals of Vision Zero, North Dakota's multi-agency effort to eliminate fatalities and serious injuries caused by motor vehicle crashes. The 98 fatalities from motor vehicle crashes in North Dakota recorded in 2022 was the lowest annual total in 20 years, yet much work remains to improve seat belt usage in our state. In 2022, approximately 2 out of 3 fatalities were unbelted where seat belts were present in the vehicle.

Compared with secondary enforcement laws, primary seat belt laws have been associated with a 10% to 12% higher observed seat belt use rate according to 2019 data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

A primary seat belt law is a reasonable and responsible means of mitigating the increased risk of a higher speed limit. In the absence of a primary seat belt law, I am unable to support the heightened risk of an increased speed limit on interstates.

The thing is that people are already going 80-85 with the 75 mph speed limit. This would bring speed limits to meet what traffic is already doing. And to try to hinge this limit on a primary seatbelt enforcement for minimal gain in usage is nonsense.

If I were super cynical, I'd say the governor wants to transfer the semi-pretextual stops for speeding (since most cars will be "speeding", the police can be selective on whom they enforce the law) to seatbelts (most police cannot see into a car and see if someone is buckled up except at slow speeds, and they can selectively pull over someone whom they "suspect" of not wearing a seatbelt and then find the suspicion to search the car).
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Re: North Dakota
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2023, 02:23:10 AM »

The state legislature, as analysts indicated would happen failed to override the vetoing of the 80 MPH bill, so no increased speed limits coming to BD interstates.

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/north-dakota-house-sustains-burgums-veto-of-80-mph-speed-limit/article_82469380-d22a-11ed-853b-e7216bfb7ddb.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share
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Re: North Dakota
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2023, 12:41:46 PM »

Governor Burgum has vetoed the 80 MPH bill. Guess it's up to see how much appetite the legislature may have to override.

He added on the original ND House passage for 80 MPH did not have a veto-proof majority, so it's probably not good on that front.

https://twitter.com/JackFromNoDak/status/1641439333264814088
Hey, I support his veto of one of those 2 bills. Not the 80 mph one though, he should have signed that one...
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Re: North Dakota
« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2023, 09:22:50 PM »

https://www.kfyrtv.com/2023/04/10/north-dakota-lawmakers-revive-bill-speed-limit-increase/

It's back!

"The House voted on and passed an amended version of Senate Bill 2168 which deals with speeding violations, the use of safety belts, and traffic fines and penalties. Governor Doug Burgum vetoed a bill last month that would have increased the speed limit to 80 mph. With this bill, lawmakers are hoping to promote several key elements of vehicle safety while also increasing the speed limit and improving the seat belt law.

“The entire time we were working on that senate bill, it was under the context that we would be dealing with 80 mph. When the governor vetoed that, we decided to put in that bill so we could still deal with those speeding fines in such a way that made sense with 80 mph,”  said Rep. Ben Koppelman, R-West Fargo."
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