Covid vaccination status?

[Jim]

Yes, mask usage is definitely different depending where you are.  I can't think of the last time I saw someone indoors at a public place (and not eating/drinking) who wasn't wearing a face covering here in upstate NY.  They don't all wear them properly, but it's very rare to see someone not wearing one at all.

[US 89]

On a related note, has anyone here actually seen anyone kicked out of somewhere for not wearing a mask? I haven't seen this. A couple of the major supermarket or convenience store chains that have stores near me supposedly require masks on all customers at all their stores, but from the looks of it, their stores near me don't enforce it. I was in one of these stores a few months ago, and the clerk even said they don't enforce it, and not a single customer was wearing one. This was months before vaccines were even available.

It depends on where you are in the country. It is definitely the case where I live, although I've never seen it since compliance is almost perfect.

Even in Utah I've seen mask requirements semi-enforced... but not really. If you walked into Smith's without a mask, they'd tell you to put one on. Half the time it's an honest mistake and they left it in their car or whatever, but the other half it's some anti-mask person who then gets all argumentative with store staff, who don't want to escalate the situation to a point where the police might have to be called.

So basically you could get away with it by being a dick.

[Max Rockatansky]

On a related note, has anyone here actually seen anyone kicked out of somewhere for not wearing a mask? I haven't seen this. A couple of the major supermarket or convenience store chains that have stores near me supposedly require masks on all customers at all their stores, but from the looks of it, their stores near me don't enforce it. I was in one of these stores a few months ago, and the clerk even said they don't enforce it, and not a single customer was wearing one. This was months before vaccines were even available.

It depends on where you are in the country. It is definitely the case where I live, although I've never seen it since compliance is almost perfect.

Even in Utah I've seen mask requirements semi-enforced... but not really. If you walked into Smith's without a mask, they'd tell you to put one on. Half the time it's an honest mistake and they left it in their car or whatever, but the other half it's some anti-mask person who then gets all argumentative with store staff, who don't want to escalate the situation to a point where the police might have to be called.

So basically you could get away with it by being a dick.

Back in March when I was in St. George and Washington maybe half of the people we ran into who were indoors were wearing masks. 

Regarding people refusing to wear masks and being kicked out, I've removed well over twenty people this last year.  Only one of them ever got to the point where I had to call the police to do a formal trespass.  Usually I'm only called upon if someone is at an anti-masker level.  Most casual people go get their masks or fix them if an employee tells them to.  It probably helps that this is a military base and its way easier to just kick someone out than in the real world. 

[J N Winkler]

He reopened his gyms in defiance of Arizona and Idaho State orders.  He did (I don't know if he still does) have mask and social distancing guidelines in place.  He was fined a couple times but saw it as the lesser evil given being shuttered was way more costly by his estimates (I don't know enough about his financials to determine the validity to that statement).

I can believe it, since mask mandates in many jurisdictions (including mine) were not set up for aggressive enforcement.

There is a whole lot I don't agree with that my brother does.  For the most part I believe he is making trouble for himself which could potentially have legal ramifications, he isn't exactly a stranger to that kind of thing (make of that what you will, you're probably right).  I've told him that he isn't being smart but he also told me he wasn't looking for my advice, so I left it at that.  I haven't even bothered to ask him what he thinks about vaccinations because the answer is rhetorical.

In another special-interest group I belong to, a woman whose adult sons are in their thirties reported (long before covid) that they had been involved in several bar fights over the years.  Given that history, it didn't exactly surprise me when masking started and she reported that one of the sons, who is an OTR trucker, refused to mask up and was ejected for trespassing when he tried to check into a casino in Nevada at the height of the first wave.



In Wichita there is currently no general mask mandate.  Our governor's attempt to re-institute one statewide on April 1 was overturned virtually instantly by the legislature, and neither the Wichita City Council nor the Sedgwick County Commission has even discussed the possibility.  The mask mandates that still exist are in school districts and there is a former county commissioner who has been going around challenging them, so far unsuccessfully.

At the supermarket I have been seeing unmasked people in larger numbers.  They skew young and male.  Couples where the female partner wears a mask but the male does not are also increasingly common.

Within the City of Wichita, it has been decided that CDC guidelines will be followed.  As a result, our public library (which is a city department) is eliminating its current one-day quarantine for physical materials, since the CDC has decided that surfaces do not play a role of any significance in transmission.  (At the start of the pandemic in March 2020, we quarantined for three days; this increased to four in July 2020 and dropped to one when we restored access to the stacks in March 2021.)  Masks are still required in city buildings.

There has been talk of small businesses in town grouping together to use a common set of "Please wear a mask" signs and promoting themselves as safer places to shop, eat, and so on.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

It also depends on the staff. If the staff doesn't care to enforce the mandate, there's no power behind it.

[SSOWorld]

Back to the subject at hand...

Got shot 2 yesterday at noon (Moderna).  The shoulder pain came on quicker this time but I didn't get dizzy like after shot 1.  Skin got sensitive overnight and was feeling "feverish" (though I didn't see a temp).  No shortness of breath (yet), but the sinuses cleared completely while I was in bed (interesting).  Just showered, but body heat is up and sensitivity is still present, as is muscle ache in select areas.  It is likely winding down, but the side effects did kick in about the same timeframe after shot as what kbhoger mentioned

[Roadgeekteen]

In Massachusetts, mask usage inside is 100% while outside it is at least 50%.

[SSOWorld]

Lets keep the focus of the topic please!  Take the mask commentary to a different thread.

[Roadgeekteen]

Lets keep the focus of the topic please!  Take the mask commentary to a different thread.

Sorry, didn't see your above comment. I would, but the last coronavirus thread got locked.

[webny99]

Lets keep the focus of the topic please!  Take the mask commentary to a different thread.

Sorry, didn't see your above comment. I would, but the last coronavirus thread got locked.

Maybe a different "forum" at this point. Discussion of mask wearing is just never ending


Personally I am partially vaccinated but refraining from answering the poll until I get the second shot.

[J N Winkler]

Today I went to Hunter Health Clinic to get my second shot of the Moderna vaccine, having had the first on March 27.  The whole process took an hour and fifteen minutes, including the drive to and from (left 12.30 PM, returned 1.45).  There was no wait at any stage:  they'd upped the number of people handling check-in from six to 10, and I suspect they had more vaccinators as well.  They took my vaccination card and handed it back in a cute plastic protector, which I thought was a nice touch.

While waiting out the fifteen-minute observation period, I worked my left arm vigorously to try to accelerate the diffusion of active substance.  So far I don't have any side effects, other than my left deltoid feeling like it has had a needle stuck in it.

[hotdogPi]

I just got my first shot (Moderna).

[tolbs17]

Lets keep the focus of the topic please!  Take the mask commentary to a different thread.

It's prolly my fault

[tolbs17]

I just got my first shot (Moderna).

I heard it has more side effects compared to the other vaccines.

[1995hoo]

[SSOWorld]

Or basketball player - but they usually are on their backs.

[interstatefan990]

Or basketball player - but they usually are on their backs.

Call it a Pfizer Pflop.

[J N Winkler]

In the 30 hours and counting since the second shot of Moderna, the worst side effect I've had is a headache that began about two hours afterward and lasted pretty much all evening.  According to the adverse reactions table for under-65s in Moderna's DailyMed profile, 63% of patients report headache after the second shot, but for only 5% is it of Grade 3 severity (interferes with daily living/requires a NSAID).  I treated it with a finger of Scotch, so I'm not sure which category I fall into.

My left deltoid is about as sore as it was after the first shot, with a minimal amount of swelling.  I also had "Moderna arm" (a visible rash), but that seems to have gone away.

[SSOWorld]

In the 30 hours and counting since the second shot of Moderna, the worst side effect I've had is a headache that began about two hours afterward and lasted pretty much all evening.  According to the adverse reactions table for under-65s in Moderna's DailyMed profile, 63% of patients report headache after the second shot, but for only 5% is it of Grade 3 severity (interferes with daily living/requires a NSAID).  I treated it with a finger of Scotch, so I'm not sure which category I fall into.

My left deltoid is about as sore as it was after the first shot, with a minimal amount of swelling.  I also had "Moderna arm" (a visible rash), but that seems to have gone away.

At least you got rid of it.

The 2nd shot resulted in chills and "heating" (not feverish) with sensitive to the touch for me (also moderna).  No moderna rash

[tolbs17]

The J&J vaccine is making a slow comeback.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/04/25/metro/state-expects-about-4000-johnson-johnson-covid-19-doses-this-week/

[SectorZ]

The J&J vaccine is making a slow comeback.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/04/25/metro/state-expects-about-4000-johnson-johnson-covid-19-doses-this-week/

Without looking I know this but confirmed anyways, why are you linking a totally paywalled site?

[tolbs17]

The J&J vaccine is making a slow comeback.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/04/25/metro/state-expects-about-4000-johnson-johnson-covid-19-doses-this-week/

Without looking I know this but confirmed anyways, why are you linking a totally paywalled site?

Cause I had adblock disabled.

[kphoger]

... he also told me he wasn't looking for my advice ...

If people don't listen to what you have to say, then it must be that you're not yelling loud enough.  Right?

It amazes me that some people seem to think others aren't getting vaccinated because they somehow haven't managed to hear some little tidbit over the last year, and that just hearing it from them will make them change their minds.

Everyone has heard it all already.

[Rothman]

... he also told me he wasn't looking for my advice ...

If people don't listen to what you have to say, then it must be that you're not yelling loud enough.  Right?

It amazes me that some people seem to think others aren't getting vaccinated because they somehow haven't managed to hear some little tidbit over the last year, and that just hearing it from them will make them change their minds.

Everyone has heard it all already.

Right.  You can't fix stupid.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

I'm pretty surprised at the vaccination progress in the USA, especially knowing how awful your health system is. Over here the progress has been painfully slow, only this week everyone over 60 in Aragon, Spain will be able to get an appointment. But at least the process has been speeding up exponentially despite the drawbacks (those overreactions to the really rare blood clots), basically doubling the number of shots given every month.