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Re: Virginia
« Reply #3100 on: July 12, 2018, 02:01:17 PM »

VDOT tweeted this today. The western end of DoG Street in Williamsburg in 1932—shortly before CW was established—versus now.

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Re: Virginia
« Reply #3101 on: July 17, 2018, 09:34:16 AM »

https://wtop.com/dc-transit/2018/07/mclean-residents-push-for-va-beltway-on-ramp-closure/slide/1/
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WASHINGTON – The Virginia Department of Transportation plans to close an on ramp from Georgetown Pike to the Capital Beltway after complaints about rush-hour traffic in McLean.

The ramp from Virginia Route 193/Georgetown Pike to the Inner Loop, just before the American Legion Bridge into Maryland, would be closed from 1 p.m. to 7 p.m. on weekdays. The ramp would remain open at other times.

Under a second less-favored alternative, VDOT could instead ban left turns onto the ramp during the afternoon rush. That would require more police enforcement and would largely continue current Beltway slowdowns, a VDOT presentation said, but could be implemented by the state without federal approval.

Closing the ramp is projected to slow traffic on the Beltway between 5 p.m. and 6 p.m. as drivers approach Virginia Route 123 and the Dulles Toll Road, but traffic models predict speeds would slightly increase between the Toll Road ramp and Clara Barton Parkway. Combined, the changes are projected to get more drivers through the area in the same amount of time, even if each driver may sometimes be moving more slowly than before.
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The proposal to close or limit access to the ramp comes after complaints from McLean residents about people using the roads in the area to avoid rush-hour traffic jams. This particular suggestion was initially marked as potentially too significant a disruption to implement, but the review has found it could be reasonable.

Wouldn't be surprised if any of these "complaints" involved large sums of cash. Regardless, has a solution such as this one been implemented anywhere else in the state or country? Seems like a relatively new idea, at least around here.
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #3102 on: July 17, 2018, 12:28:05 PM »

Wouldn't be surprised if any of these "complaints" involved large sums of cash. Regardless, has a solution such as this one been implemented anywhere else in the state or country? Seems like a relatively new idea, at least around here.

My guess is that this will be vetoed by FHWA, and if it were to be approved, would be the subject of federal litigation.  I do not think that persons living near an interchange should normally be allowed to have any say-so in what ramps are open and when.
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #3103 on: July 17, 2018, 02:16:56 PM »

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Regardless, has a solution such as this one been implemented anywhere else in the state or country? Seems like a relatively new idea, at least around here.

Yes.  I-64 in Norfolk...the on-ramp from 15th View at the end of Willoughby Spit (towards the HRBT) is often closed when traffic in the HRBT is backed up.  Routinely ignored by drivers, though, who have been known to detour up the OFF-ramp at 15th View instead in a very illegal fashion.


So, yes...there's precedent for this within VDOT.
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« Reply #3104 on: July 17, 2018, 02:38:38 PM »

This will simply distribute vehicles down other streets, but so long as residents of Langely and McLean don't have drivers passing through *their* neigborhoods it's no big deal.

Ironically, this problem is exacerbated by the lack of a proper street grid that way, so everyone is forced to used Georgetown Pike. If this passes through, expect further petitions.
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Re: Virginia
« Reply #3105 on: July 17, 2018, 04:16:37 PM »

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Regardless, has a solution such as this one been implemented anywhere else in the state or country? Seems like a relatively new idea, at least around here.

Yes.  I-64 in Norfolk...the on-ramp from 15th View at the end of Willoughby Spit (towards the HRBT) is often closed when traffic in the HRBT is backed up.  Routinely ignored by drivers, though, who have been known to detour up the OFF-ramp at 15th View instead in a very illegal fashion.

So, yes...there's precedent for this within VDOT.

That's to make I-64 (and especially the HRBT) run better, and could be construed as a form of ramp metering.  Not the case with the approaches to the American Legion Bridge, which is (by comparison) short and has none of the operational challenges of a bridge tunnel crossing. 

Barring traffic from this ramp will probably not make any difference to the way that I-495 operates (though VDOT can test that with a microsimulation model if they choose), since it routinely fails from the area between VA-123 and VA-267 headed in  the direction of the bridge.

The unfortunate  part of this is that the people on the Virginia side of the crossing are effectively victimized by the anti-car and anti-highway ideology of more than a few members of the Montgomery County Council (going back as far as 1970).
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