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The one highway, interstate, or city street you HATE to drive

Started by Billy F 1988, April 22, 2023, 01:49:31 PM

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sprjus4

Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 09, 2023, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 08, 2023, 11:29:01 PM
I-40. Eastern Arkansas. Nuff said.

Is it 'nuff said? I don't remember anything particularly special about this stretch, good, bad, or otherwise. Why is it on your list? It's been probably 15-20 years since I've been on it.
Trucks, trucks, and more trucks.

A hundred+ miles of 2 lanes in each direction with trucks consisting of 50-55% (actual figure) of the overall traffic. Micropassing, constant walls of trucks, it's a mess.

If you time it right, it's not too bad. But on a busy weekday, you may run into hundreds of trucks in just constant walls the whole way.

It needs to be 6 lanes (3 each direction) the entire way with trucks banned from the left lane.


SEWIGuy

By far my least favorite is I-65 in Indiana - especially north of Indianapolis. Always busy and pretty boring as well.

I-39 in Illinois usually moves well, but I have driven it so much and it is so dull that I just want it to be over.

StogieGuy7

Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 10, 2023, 08:45:09 AM
By far my least favorite is I-65 in Indiana - especially north of Indianapolis. Always busy and pretty boring as well.


All true and you forgot one: like most other roads in Indiana, it's permanently under construction. And not just one area - but the entire length takes turns with lane closures 5 to 10 miles at a time.

thspfc

Somehow no Beltline yet. I'd also add East Washington Ave. and Gorham St.

SEWIGuy

Quote from: thspfc on May 10, 2023, 11:30:41 AM
Somehow no Beltline yet. I'd also add East Washington Ave. and Gorham St.


Honestly, never minded all three of them.

RoadWarrior56

I live in Metro Atlanta.  I have a very long list of all kinds of streets, highways, and freeways I hate to drive (too long to list here, hahaha).  Being I live in Gwinnett County, a special place in Hell goes to Sugarloaf Parkway.  It is poetic justice to myself that I came up with the location for part of the route for Sugarloaf Parkway back in the late 80's.

ilpt4u

Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 10, 2023, 08:45:09 AM
By far my least favorite is I-65 in Indiana - especially north of Indianapolis. Always busy and pretty boring as well.
I haven't driven I-65 Indy-NW IN in a long while, mostly since I reside in SoIL now, but I did try that NB trip somewhat recently...and the truck traffic is as bad or worse than I remember to the point I jumped to US 52 somewhere between Lebanon and Lafayette. Yes, it probably added an hour to my trip, and I was perfectly fine with it. Much more peaceful and relaxing to drive a mostly empty US 52, then US 41

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: sprjus4 on May 10, 2023, 01:22:57 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 09, 2023, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 08, 2023, 11:29:01 PM
I-40. Eastern Arkansas. Nuff said.

Is it 'nuff said? I don't remember anything particularly special about this stretch, good, bad, or otherwise. Why is it on your list? It's been probably 15-20 years since I've been on it.
Trucks, trucks, and more trucks.

A hundred+ miles of 2 lanes in each direction with trucks consisting of 50-55% (actual figure) of the overall traffic. Micropassing, constant walls of trucks, it's a mess.

If you time it right, it's not too bad. But on a busy weekday, you may run into hundreds of trucks in just constant walls the whole way.

It needs to be 6 lanes (3 each direction) the entire way with trucks banned from the left lane.

I did this trip just a few days ago, and it is exactly as you say. The only nice thing is that you can sometimes get out of one of those micropassing zones and have a bit of space for a while because the cars behind you are still stuck.

In any case, I'm wondering the best way to deal with the situation. Speeding up and slowing down so much is kind of a pain, so it could be that the thing to do is just set the cruise control to 65 and just wait it out.
I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

74/171FAN

#108
Specifically this portion of I-76 where I-76 EB continues on a one-lane ramp, you have to be in the right lane, and the signage states "TO I-76" when it should be "I-76 EB to I-95 NB".  I almost exited here when I first drove it, and I was insanely angry in regard to the setup which is rare for me.

In regard to other candidates that should in theory be included, I think that I am too used to roads such as I-81, I-78, I-83, I-95, etc., to really hate the portions that I feel I am expected to.  I would not include the Baltimore-Washington Pkwy in that, but I think most of my annoyance there has to do with inconsistent maintenance, GPS apps continuing to route vehicles that way, and continuing to hear about all that from CPZ.   :-D  I have actually only been on there a few times mainly for clinching purposes beyond others blindly following GPS routes.

In regard to speed trap towns, I leave that to US 11E/US 321 in Greeneville, TN. 

Otherwise, one route that I have purposely avoided since clinching it is PA 645.  It is super-curvy and seems unnecessary since PA 501 to the east is a much better road and also goes from Pine Grove to Myerstown.  I could support decommissioning PA 645 and replacing the portion north of Pine Grove Rd with an extension of PA 343 from I-78 that also includes Pine Grove Rd.
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1995hoo

I think the road I hate the most is the portion of I-95 in South Carolina between I-26 and the Georgia state line. It's been a couple of years (June 2021) since I last drove through there, so maybe it's improved, but the road was always a washboard and the traffic was always heavy even if it was moving. Just a frustrating segment of road.

I dislike Indian Head Highway (MD-210), but that's because of the extremely dangerous driving one encounters on there and not anything to do with the road itself.
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commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Flint1979

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 22, 2023, 02:04:45 PM
I think the road I hate the most is the portion of I-95 in South Carolina between I-26 and the Georgia state line. It's been a couple of years (June 2021) since I last drove through there, so maybe it's improved, but the road was always a washboard and the traffic was always heavy even if it was moving. Just a frustrating segment of road.

I dislike Indian Head Highway (MD-210), but that's because of the extremely dangerous driving one encounters on there and not anything to do with the road itself.
I drove through there in April of 2021 and completely agree.

vdeane

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on May 22, 2023, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 10, 2023, 01:22:57 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 09, 2023, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 08, 2023, 11:29:01 PM
I-40. Eastern Arkansas. Nuff said.

Is it 'nuff said? I don't remember anything particularly special about this stretch, good, bad, or otherwise. Why is it on your list? It's been probably 15-20 years since I've been on it.
Trucks, trucks, and more trucks.

A hundred+ miles of 2 lanes in each direction with trucks consisting of 50-55% (actual figure) of the overall traffic. Micropassing, constant walls of trucks, it's a mess.

If you time it right, it's not too bad. But on a busy weekday, you may run into hundreds of trucks in just constant walls the whole way.

It needs to be 6 lanes (3 each direction) the entire way with trucks banned from the left lane.

I did this trip just a few days ago, and it is exactly as you say. The only nice thing is that you can sometimes get out of one of those micropassing zones and have a bit of space for a while because the cars behind you are still stuck.

In any case, I'm wondering the best way to deal with the situation. Speeding up and slowing down so much is kind of a pain, so it could be that the thing to do is just set the cruise control to 65 and just wait it out.
I've heard a rumor that the FMCSA is poised to mandate speed limiters in trucks... so expect this problem to get a lot worse.

(personal opinion)
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

US 89

I-75 near McDonough, GA. For some reason there is ALWAYS standstill traffic in this area when I'm driving through in either direction. I hate it worse than the Downtown Connector in Atlanta because at least you have a pretty skyline and other fun infrastructure to look at.

bcroadguy

Any major street in the City of Vancouver (suburbs are fine) when it is busy. Every street has no left turn lanes except at certain major intersections, and parking is usually allowed in the right lane outside of rush hour. Driving there is a game of avoiding left turners, parked cars, cyclists, and buses.

sprjus4

Quote from: vdeane on May 22, 2023, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on May 22, 2023, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 10, 2023, 01:22:57 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 09, 2023, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 08, 2023, 11:29:01 PM
I-40. Eastern Arkansas. Nuff said.

Is it 'nuff said? I don't remember anything particularly special about this stretch, good, bad, or otherwise. Why is it on your list? It's been probably 15-20 years since I've been on it.
Trucks, trucks, and more trucks.

A hundred+ miles of 2 lanes in each direction with trucks consisting of 50-55% (actual figure) of the overall traffic. Micropassing, constant walls of trucks, it's a mess.

If you time it right, it's not too bad. But on a busy weekday, you may run into hundreds of trucks in just constant walls the whole way.

It needs to be 6 lanes (3 each direction) the entire way with trucks banned from the left lane.

I did this trip just a few days ago, and it is exactly as you say. The only nice thing is that you can sometimes get out of one of those micropassing zones and have a bit of space for a while because the cars behind you are still stuck.

In any case, I'm wondering the best way to deal with the situation. Speeding up and slowing down so much is kind of a pain, so it could be that the thing to do is just set the cruise control to 65 and just wait it out.
I've heard a rumor that the FMCSA is poised to mandate speed limiters in trucks... so expect this problem to get a lot worse.

(personal opinion)
Hopefully it'll keep trucks at the same speed more often and keep them all from passing each other, and staying in the right lane.

However, the second one guy isn't going full speed and is only doing 63 mph, the wall moving 64 and 65 mph now hog the left lane for dozens of miles and this gets ruined.

Along I-40 in Arkansas, the speed limit is 75 mph for cars and 70 mph for trucks. Trucks will barely be able to maintain 64-65 mph with cars moving 80+ mph. Very dangerous situation.

VTGoose

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 22, 2023, 02:04:45 PM
I think the road I hate the most is the portion of I-95 in South Carolina between I-26 and the Georgia state line. It's been a couple of years (June 2021) since I last drove through there, so maybe it's improved, but the road was always a washboard and the traffic was always heavy even if it was moving. Just a frustrating segment of road.

More often than not, that section of I-95 is populated with drivers moving at or under the speed limit, drivers who want to exceed the speed limit by large amounts, and micropassers galore. The state has tried to fix some of the washboard, but has done it in patches instead of repaving stretches, which still leaves bumps at the start and end of the patch.

We travel that stretch quite often to visit family in St. Petersburg and have tried various alternatives to avoid traffic and accidents. All of 95 from Florida on was a mess northbound on the Sunday after Easter and we ended up on U.S. 321 from Hardeeville to Columbia. It was one of the least stressful trips between those points with long stretches of open road with no traffic.

"Get in the fast lane, grandma!  The bingo game is ready to roll!"

vdeane

Quote from: sprjus4 on May 23, 2023, 12:36:03 AM
Quote from: vdeane on May 22, 2023, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on May 22, 2023, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 10, 2023, 01:22:57 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 09, 2023, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 08, 2023, 11:29:01 PM
I-40. Eastern Arkansas. Nuff said.

Is it 'nuff said? I don't remember anything particularly special about this stretch, good, bad, or otherwise. Why is it on your list? It's been probably 15-20 years since I've been on it.
Trucks, trucks, and more trucks.

A hundred+ miles of 2 lanes in each direction with trucks consisting of 50-55% (actual figure) of the overall traffic. Micropassing, constant walls of trucks, it's a mess.

If you time it right, it's not too bad. But on a busy weekday, you may run into hundreds of trucks in just constant walls the whole way.

It needs to be 6 lanes (3 each direction) the entire way with trucks banned from the left lane.

I did this trip just a few days ago, and it is exactly as you say. The only nice thing is that you can sometimes get out of one of those micropassing zones and have a bit of space for a while because the cars behind you are still stuck.

In any case, I'm wondering the best way to deal with the situation. Speeding up and slowing down so much is kind of a pain, so it could be that the thing to do is just set the cruise control to 65 and just wait it out.
I've heard a rumor that the FMCSA is poised to mandate speed limiters in trucks... so expect this problem to get a lot worse.

(personal opinion)
Hopefully it'll keep trucks at the same speed more often and keep them all from passing each other, and staying in the right lane.

However, the second one guy isn't going full speed and is only doing 63 mph, the wall moving 64 and 65 mph now hog the left lane for dozens of miles and this gets ruined.

Along I-40 in Arkansas, the speed limit is 75 mph for cars and 70 mph for trucks. Trucks will barely be able to maintain 64-65 mph with cars moving 80+ mph. Very dangerous situation.
Given that speedometers aren't all calibrated exactly the same, I would expect that micropassing would still be a thing.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

CtrlAltDel

Quote from: vdeane on May 23, 2023, 12:39:22 PM
Given that speedometers aren't all calibrated exactly the same, I would expect that micropassing would still be a thing.

It'll potentially be more microer even. I wonder if they should find a way to encourage the mainline truck to slow down a bit to speed up the passes.
I-290   I-294   I-55   (I-74)   (I-72)   I-40   I-30   US-59   US-190   TX-30   TX-6

74/171FAN

Quote from: VTGoose on May 23, 2023, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 22, 2023, 02:04:45 PM
I think the road I hate the most is the portion of I-95 in South Carolina between I-26 and the Georgia state line. It's been a couple of years (June 2021) since I last drove through there, so maybe it's improved, but the road was always a washboard and the traffic was always heavy even if it was moving. Just a frustrating segment of road.

More often than not, that section of I-95 is populated with drivers moving at or under the speed limit, drivers who want to exceed the speed limit by large amounts, and micropassers galore. The state has tried to fix some of the washboard, but has done it in patches instead of repaving stretches, which still leaves bumps at the start and end of the patch.

We travel that stretch quite often to visit family in St. Petersburg and have tried various alternatives to avoid traffic and accidents. All of 95 from Florida on was a mess northbound on the Sunday after Easter and we ended up on U.S. 321 from Hardeeville to Columbia. It was one of the least stressful trips between those points with long stretches of open road with no traffic.

I remember taking US 301/VA 2 south of Fredericksburg a couple years ago the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.  Of course, I was by myself instead of sitting in I-95 traffic.
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1995hoo

Quote from: VPIGoose on May 23, 2023, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 22, 2023, 02:04:45 PM
I think the road I hate the most is the portion of I-95 in South Carolina between I-26 and the Georgia state line. It's been a couple of years (June 2021) since I last drove through there, so maybe it's improved, but the road was always a washboard and the traffic was always heavy even if it was moving. Just a frustrating segment of road.

More often than not, that section of I-95 is populated with drivers moving at or under the speed limit, drivers who want to exceed the speed limit by large amounts, and micropassers galore. The state has tried to fix some of the washboard, but has done it in patches instead of repaving stretches, which still leaves bumps at the start and end of the patch.

We travel that stretch quite often to visit family in St. Petersburg and have tried various alternatives to avoid traffic and accidents. All of 95 from Florida on was a mess northbound on the Sunday after Easter and we ended up on U.S. 321 from Hardeeville to Columbia. It was one of the least stressful trips between those points with long stretches of open road with no traffic.

Thanks for this info. I had asked about that road in a thread some years back and got several responses, but I ultimately never got around to trying it. Your comment makes me think I might consider it again if we drive south, though I don't know when that might be. Maybe next May when our niece graduates from high school. For our most recent trip, we flew from DCA to FLL and I have to say the substantial time saving makes me more inclined to do that in the future if we only want to go to one destination in Florida. (If we loop around to visit multiple relatives and friends scattered around the lower half of the state it becomes a different matter.)
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

US 89

Quote from: sprjus4 on May 23, 2023, 12:36:03 AM
Quote from: vdeane on May 22, 2023, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on May 22, 2023, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 10, 2023, 01:22:57 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on May 09, 2023, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on May 08, 2023, 11:29:01 PM
I-40. Eastern Arkansas. Nuff said.

Is it 'nuff said? I don't remember anything particularly special about this stretch, good, bad, or otherwise. Why is it on your list? It's been probably 15-20 years since I've been on it.
Trucks, trucks, and more trucks.

A hundred+ miles of 2 lanes in each direction with trucks consisting of 50-55% (actual figure) of the overall traffic. Micropassing, constant walls of trucks, it's a mess.

If you time it right, it's not too bad. But on a busy weekday, you may run into hundreds of trucks in just constant walls the whole way.

It needs to be 6 lanes (3 each direction) the entire way with trucks banned from the left lane.

I did this trip just a few days ago, and it is exactly as you say. The only nice thing is that you can sometimes get out of one of those micropassing zones and have a bit of space for a while because the cars behind you are still stuck.

In any case, I'm wondering the best way to deal with the situation. Speeding up and slowing down so much is kind of a pain, so it could be that the thing to do is just set the cruise control to 65 and just wait it out.
I've heard a rumor that the FMCSA is poised to mandate speed limiters in trucks... so expect this problem to get a lot worse.

(personal opinion)
Hopefully it'll keep trucks at the same speed more often and keep them all from passing each other, and staying in the right lane.

However, the second one guy isn't going full speed and is only doing 63 mph, the wall moving 64 and 65 mph now hog the left lane for dozens of miles and this gets ruined.

Along I-40 in Arkansas, the speed limit is 75 mph for cars and 70 mph for trucks. Trucks will barely be able to maintain 64-65 mph with cars moving 80+ mph. Very dangerous situation.

I've driven I-40 from Memphis to Little Rock once and hope to never do it again. My memory of it is exactly that: unending micropassing trucks. Yes, the speed limit is 75 cars/70 trucks, but you don't ever get anywhere close to either of that because you spend the whole time behind a truck governed to 62.2 mph passing a truck governed to 62 mph.

Flint1979

Quote from: US 89 on May 22, 2023, 08:28:37 PM
I-75 near McDonough, GA. For some reason there is ALWAYS standstill traffic in this area when I'm driving through in either direction. I hate it worse than the Downtown Connector in Atlanta because at least you have a pretty skyline and other fun infrastructure to look at.
The only time I have ever driven through there with problem free traffic was in March 2020 and that was during the early days of the pandemic therefore no one was really on the road and driving through Atlanta was a breeze.

roadman65

I-4 I mentioned already. It will always be jammed between US 27 and US 192 near Disney due to its being the funnel point of State Road 429, State Road 417, World Drive coming together to all drive home to their far away homes in Polk County from the economic area of Central Florida east of Disney or Disney.

I-75 in GA sounds like that.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Flint1979

Quote from: roadman65 on May 24, 2023, 12:49:58 PM
I-4 I mentioned already. It will always be jammed between US 27 and US 192 near Disney due to its being the funnel point of State Road 429, State Road 417, World Drive coming together to all drive home to their far away homes in Polk County from the economic area of Central Florida east of Disney or Disney.

I-75 in GA sounds like that.
I agree with I-4 I hate that highway. I-75 is ok south of Macon but is a pain between Macon all the way up to north of Knoxville.

roadman65

Also around Ocala in Florida.

When I first moved to Florida in the early nineties, I remember how most people would wish they could live in Ocala as it's so nice up there.  However, no jobs unless you're a rancher would be the supporting point to that thinking.

Now it's got an economy and because of that, it's congested I-75 up real bad north of the Turnpike merge in Wildwood and through Marion County.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe



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