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Started by Poiponen13, July 13, 2023, 05:25:53 AM

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Should US metricate?

Yes
38 (55.1%)
No
31 (44.9%)

Total Members Voted: 69

freebrickproductions

Quote from: vdeane on December 14, 2023, 08:57:17 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 14, 2023, 06:59:35 PM
Here's a really stupid temperature scale—Fahrenheit but with the zero point at 72°, because I saw an HVAC commercial once where that was treated as "room temperature". We'll call it "degrees nice" because 72° is pretty nice. So negative numbers are always cold and positive numbers are always hot. It tells you nothing about the freezing or boiling point of anything, although the freezing point of water would be –40°n (note lowercase n to distinguish from degrees north), and boiling would be 140°n, which are nice round numbers.

Right now the temperature in Norman is 57°, which is –15°n. Meaning it's fifteen degrees colder than being nice. I sort of like this temperature scale...
Funny, I was thinking something similar.  There must be something to this "72 is nice" thing...


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kalvado

Quote from: freebrickproductions on December 15, 2023, 12:10:39 AM
Quote from: vdeane on December 14, 2023, 08:57:17 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 14, 2023, 06:59:35 PM
Here's a really stupid temperature scale—Fahrenheit but with the zero point at 72°, because I saw an HVAC commercial once where that was treated as "room temperature". We'll call it "degrees nice" because 72° is pretty nice. So negative numbers are always cold and positive numbers are always hot. It tells you nothing about the freezing or boiling point of anything, although the freezing point of water would be –40°n (note lowercase n to distinguish from degrees north), and boiling would be 140°n, which are nice round numbers.

Right now the temperature in Norman is 57°, which is –15°n. Meaning it's fifteen degrees colder than being nice. I sort of like this temperature scale...
Funny, I was thinking something similar.  There must be something to this "72 is nice" thing...


:hmm:
Guys, you're a little bit off here. 69 is nice.

kphoger

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 14, 2023, 06:56:01 PM
I would also submit that temperatures below 0°F probably occur with far less frequency than temperatures 1–32°F, even if you account for land area rather than population.

Probably?  Most definitely!

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 14, 2023, 06:59:35 PM
Here's a really stupid temperature scale—Fahrenheit but with the zero point at 72°, because I saw an HVAC commercial once where that was treated as "room temperature". We'll call it "degrees nice" because 72° is pretty nice. So negative numbers are always cold and positive numbers are always hot. It tells you nothing about the freezing or boiling point of anything, although the freezing point of water would be –40°n (note lowercase n to distinguish from degrees north), and boiling would be 140°n, which are nice round numbers.

Right now the temperature in Norman is 57°, which is –15°n. Meaning it's fifteen degrees colder than being nice. I sort of like this temperature scale...

I'm down with it too.  It's fairly easy to accommodate people who prefer slightly warmer or cooler temperatures, too, as those folks can simply peg their own personal "nice-point" at –4°n or whatever.
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TXtoNJ

Y'all, this already exists in Celsius. "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 25 degrees (77 Fahrenheit). The further away from 25 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

The effective range of temperatures on Earth at any given time is -50 to 50, with temperatures outside this being extreme.

kphoger

Quote from: TXtoNJ on December 15, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Y'all, this already exists in Celsius. "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 25 degrees (77 Fahrenheit). The further away from 25 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

It also exists in Fahrenheit.  "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 77 degrees (25 Celsius).  The further away from 77 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

What's your point?
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Male pronouns, please.

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GaryV

Quote from: kphoger on December 15, 2023, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on December 15, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Y'all, this already exists in Celsius. "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 25 degrees (77 Fahrenheit). The further away from 25 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

It also exists in Fahrenheit.  "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 77 degrees (25 Celsius).  The further away from 77 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

What's your point?

Maybe the point is that 25 is a nice round number.

So is 75 or 80, and many people believe that either of those Fahrenheit temps would be nice t-shirt and shorts weather.

TXtoNJ

Quote from: kphoger on December 15, 2023, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on December 15, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Y'all, this already exists in Celsius. "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 25 degrees (77 Fahrenheit). The further away from 25 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

It also exists in Fahrenheit.  "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 77 degrees (25 Celsius).  The further away from 77 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

What's your point?

The point is this discussion is extremely silly and grounded entirely in American exceptionalism.

kalvado

Quote from: TXtoNJ on December 15, 2023, 02:33:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 15, 2023, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on December 15, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Y'all, this already exists in Celsius. "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 25 degrees (77 Fahrenheit). The further away from 25 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

It also exists in Fahrenheit.  "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 77 degrees (25 Celsius).  The further away from 77 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

What's your point?

The point is this discussion is extremely silly and grounded entirely in American exceptionalism.
With all my respect, I disagree.
There is also a strong aspect of spoiled digital age kids without real experience in temperature measurement and control.

Rothman

Quote from: GaryV on December 15, 2023, 02:25:38 PM
Quote from: kphoger on December 15, 2023, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on December 15, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Y'all, this already exists in Celsius. "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 25 degrees (77 Fahrenheit). The further away from 25 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

It also exists in Fahrenheit.  "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 77 degrees (25 Celsius).  The further away from 77 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

What's your point?

Maybe the point is that 25 is a nice round number.

So is 75 or 80, and many people believe that either of those Fahrenheit temps would be nice t-shirt and shorts weather.
77 is better because of numerology. :D
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Big John

Quote from: kphoger on December 15, 2023, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: TXtoNJ on December 15, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Y'all, this already exists in Celsius. "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 25 degrees (77 Fahrenheit). The further away from 25 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

It also exists in Fahrenheit.  "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 77 degrees (25 Celsius).  The further away from 77 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

What's your point?
Except that 20C (68F) is a lot better shorts and T-shirt weather for me.

vdeane

Quote from: TXtoNJ on December 15, 2023, 01:38:32 PM
Y'all, this already exists in Celsius. "Nice in shorts and a t-shirt" is 25 degrees (77 Fahrenheit). The further away from 25 you get, the more you either need to bundle up or figure out a way to cool off.

The effective range of temperatures on Earth at any given time is -50 to 50, with temperatures outside this being extreme.
I would consider either -50 or 50 (Celsius) to be extreme.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Poiponen13

It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

What are you defining as 110F/43C days then?  Also, why is any of this "important milestones?"

hotdogPi

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important kilometerstone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

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GaryV

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.
Tell that to the people in southern Algeria. I'm sure they consider themselves in a "tropical" climate. Their vacation industry is just waiting to take off.


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Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.
In Texas, a day with a max temperature below 77 is called a winter day.
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 16, 2023, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

What are you defining as 110F/43C days then?  Also, why is any of this "important milestones?"
Because this is usually the only day of summer in Helsinkigrad

Brandon

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

86F is hardly tropical by itself.  That's not an unusual summer day in the North American Midwest.  What matters is the dew point, the humidity.  77F is just a warm spring or fall/autumn day.
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Scott5114

Hell, 86°F isn't an unusual spring day in Oklahoma.
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kalvado

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 16, 2023, 06:01:06 PM
Hell, 86°F isn't an unusual spring day in Oklahoma.
.... Phoenix AZ ...

Max Rockatansky

I guess that all these weird weather classifications make sense when you consider P13 also has hypothetical Atlantic hurricane names drafted up through to 2138.

Poiponen13

Quote from: Brandon on December 16, 2023, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

86F is hardly tropical by itself.  That's not an unusual summer day in the North American Midwest.  What matters is the dew point, the humidity.  77F is just a warm spring or fall/autumn day.
In Helsinki, there are only about 30 days above 25 C and about 6 days above 30 C. April has never had any 25+ day, and September has had such day only twice in history. Temperatures above 35 C (95 F) have never been recorded there.

kalvado

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 17, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 16, 2023, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

86F is hardly tropical by itself.  That's not an unusual summer day in the North American Midwest.  What matters is the dew point, the humidity.  77F is just a warm spring or fall/autumn day.
In Helsinki, there are only about 30 days above 25 C and about 6 days above 30 C. April has never had any 25+ day, and September has had such day only twice in history. Temperatures above 35 C (95 F) have never been recorded there.
But why do you care about Helsinkigrad when the center of the world is obviously somewhere near Milan?

freebrickproductions

Quote from: kalvado on December 17, 2023, 01:30:25 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 17, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: Brandon on December 16, 2023, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C. That is 77 F. A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

86F is hardly tropical by itself.  That's not an unusual summer day in the North American Midwest.  What matters is the dew point, the humidity.  77F is just a warm spring or fall/autumn day.
In Helsinki, there are only about 30 days above 25 C and about 6 days above 30 C. April has never had any 25+ day, and September has had such day only twice in history. Temperatures above 35 C (95 F) have never been recorded there.
But why do you care about Helsinkigrad when the center of the world is obviously somewhere near Milan?

And here I thought it was off the coast of Africa...
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kphoger

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
It is important milestone when maximum temperature of the day hits 25 C.

no it isn't

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 16, 2023, 12:26:22 PM
A day when maximum temperature is above 25 C is called a summer day. Also, a day when maximum temperature is above 30 C (86 F) is a tropical day.

no it isn't

Quote from: Poiponen13 on December 17, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
In Helsinki, there are only about 30 days above 25 C and about 6 days above 30 C. April has never had any 25+ day, and September has had such day only twice in history. Temperatures above 35 C (95 F) have never been recorded there.

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