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Started by Scott5114, September 21, 2010, 04:01:21 AM

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More crookedly-numbered I-95 shields in Prince George County.





The angle of this last one hides the bad number placement somewhat.

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Oh. My. Good God. 

I have no words for this... anybody else?


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Quote from: hbelkins on February 05, 2012, 02:25:56 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on February 05, 2012, 12:11:56 PM
Obviously a private job:


That sign directs travelers wanting to go east on NY 211 to turn left, yet there is a "No Left Turn" sign in the background. FAIL.

I've seen this sign before.  It's in a QuickChek convenience store parking lot just east of Middletown, NY.  If you're traveling eastbound, they want you to drive through the parking lot to the eastbound exit (not in photo).

hbelkins

Probably some weird California environmental law that keeps them from cutting that tree down.
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kphoger

Quote from: relaxok on February 23, 2012, 03:24:13 AM
Oh. My. Good God. 

I have no words for this... anybody else?


I think the sign looks just fine.  Would you have preferred a Keep Right sign?

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relaxok

Quote from: kphoger on February 23, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: relaxok on February 23, 2012, 03:24:13 AM
Oh. My. Good God. 

I have no words for this... anybody else?


I think the sign looks just fine.  Would you have preferred a Keep Right sign?

Yeah, I should have specified, I've just never seen that occur.. the sign itself is alright I guess

ctsignguy

Quote from: kphoger on February 23, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: relaxok on February 23, 2012, 03:24:13 AM
Oh. My. Good God. 

I have no words for this... anybody else?


I think the sign looks just fine.  Would you have preferred a Keep Right sign?

Actually, this would be best!

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Alps

Quote from: hbelkins on February 23, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
Probably some weird California environmental law that keeps them from cutting that tree down.
Oddly, there's a tree like that in Ojai, too. Maybe it really is California.

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Quote from: Steve on February 23, 2012, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 23, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
Probably some weird California environmental law that keeps them from cutting that tree down.
Oddly, there's a tree like that in Ojai, too. Maybe it really is California.

I like how that tree is right in front of someone's driveway.
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Quote from: Steve on February 23, 2012, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 23, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
Probably some weird California environmental law that keeps them from cutting that tree down.
Oddly, there's a tree like that in Ojai, too. Maybe it really is California.

Yeah, the fine print on the Street View image says "Stockton, California.
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Alps

Quote from: hbelkins on February 24, 2012, 10:47:04 AM
Quote from: Steve on February 23, 2012, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on February 23, 2012, 10:35:44 AM
Probably some weird California environmental law that keeps them from cutting that tree down.
Oddly, there's a tree like that in Ojai, too. Maybe it really is California.

Yeah, the fine print on the Street View image says "Stockton, California.

I meant it as "maybe it really is a phenomenon particular to California"

hbelkins

Quote from: Steve on February 24, 2012, 04:45:43 PM
I meant it as "maybe it really is a phenomenon particular to California"

10-4. Gotcha.
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roadfro

Quote from: relaxok on February 23, 2012, 02:01:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 23, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: relaxok on February 23, 2012, 03:24:13 AM
Oh. My. Good God. 

I have no words for this... anybody else?

I think the sign looks just fine.  Would you have preferred a Keep Right sign?

Yeah, I should have specified, I've just never seen that occur.. the sign itself is alright I guess

The sign conforms to MUTCD standards on object markers for obstructions in the roadway.
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Scott5114

Quote from: roadfro on February 25, 2012, 04:59:16 AM
Quote from: relaxok on February 23, 2012, 02:01:52 PM
Quote from: kphoger on February 23, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: relaxok on February 23, 2012, 03:24:13 AM
Oh. My. Good God. 

I have no words for this... anybody else?

I think the sign looks just fine.  Would you have preferred a Keep Right sign?

Yeah, I should have specified, I've just never seen that occur.. the sign itself is alright I guess

The sign conforms to MUTCD standards on object markers for obstructions in the roadway.

MUTCD would recommend some sort of striping around it though.
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#1039
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 25, 2012, 11:23:09 AM
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MUTCD would recommend some sort of striping around it though.

The MUTCD uses the word "may" not "should":
Quote from: MUTCD, Chapter 2C.64, Paragraph 3 (Page 135)
To provide additional emphasis, large surfaces such as bridge piers may be painted with diagonal stripes, 12 inches or greater in width, similar in design to the Type 3 object marker.

EDIT: The MUTCD requires pavement markings around obstructions within the roadway, which are not used at the location of the photo.
Quote from: MUTCD, Chapter 2C.64, Paragraph 1 (Page 135)
Obstructions within the roadway shall be marked with a Type 1 or Type 3 object marker. In addition to markers on the face of the obstruction, warning of approach to the obstruction shall be given by appropriate pavement markings (see Section 3B.10).

Kacie Jane

But you have to wonder if those pavement markings would become optional, given that the street appears to lack all other pavement markings as well.

Brian556

Click the link. This tree situation exists in multiple locations in Double Oak, Texas. There is an uncurbed grass "island" around the trees. they are always in hte conter of the street, and never have object markers.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=33.063718,-97.116252&spn=0.000009,0.006169&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=33.063718,-97.116252&panoid=AeU0QwU-_M-8Yd6ShTjN_w&cbp=12,103.94,,0,0

Duke87

I know of a spot near Kennett Square, PA where a similar situation exists but the street in question is not on street view.
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myosh_tino

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122711_I70WB_DSC_0166.pic by MoDOT KC 4, on Flickr

This arrow-per-lane sign recently installed in Kansas City, MO gets my vote for the Worst of Road Signs.  The big problem with this sign is the inclusion of an advanced guide sign for I-435 south on the pull-through portion of the arrow-per-lane sign.  The way it's laid out could result in unnecessary lane changing by drivers because it implies that the right two lanes can access I-435 south and the left two lanes remain on I-70 which is not the case.  All 3 lanes are thru lanes for I-70 and the I-435 exit is a simple exit.  This is a flaw IMO in the arrow-per-lane signing requirements in the 2009 MUTCD.

The signs on this gantry should have looked like this...
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Quote from: myosh_tino on February 29, 2012, 11:49:58 PM
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The signs on this gantry should have looked like this...


Except I hope they'd spell "Des Moines" correctly.  :-D

I actually like the sign assembly in the photo better than some of the sign assemblies here in Northern Virginia. The arrows in the one you posted at least line up with the lanes. I don't really feel all that strongly about the need for arrow-per-lane signs in most situations, but I do feel that if you're going to use them you should line them up properly. The arrows in the sign you posted do that. I think the bigger problem is the small arrowhead for the optional exit lane as it relates to the position of the vertical separator line above. If the vertical separator line were a tad further to the left, and the arrowheads were bigger/elongated, the optional lane's status would be clearer.
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Quote from: myosh_tino on February 29, 2012, 11:49:58 PM

This arrow-per-lane sign recently installed in Kansas gets my vote for the Worst of Road Signs.  The big problem with this sign is the inclusion of an advanced guide sign for I-435 south on the pull-through portion of the arrow-per-lane sign.  The way it's laid out could result in unnecessary lane changing by drivers because it implies that the right two lanes can access I-435 south and the left two lanes remain on I-70 which is not the case.  All 3 lanes are thru lanes for I-70 and the I-435 exit is a simple exit.  This is a flaw IMO in the arrow-per-lane signing requirements in the 2009 MUTCD.


What was there before:


myosh_tino

Quote from: Alex on March 01, 2012, 11:10:44 AM
Quote from: myosh_tino on February 29, 2012, 11:49:58 PM

This arrow-per-lane sign recently installed in Kansas gets my vote for the Worst of Road Signs.  The big problem with this sign is the inclusion of an advanced guide sign for I-435 south on the pull-through portion of the arrow-per-lane sign.  The way it's laid out could result in unnecessary lane changing by drivers because it implies that the right two lanes can access I-435 south and the left two lanes remain on I-70 which is not the case.  All 3 lanes are thru lanes for I-70 and the I-435 exit is a simple exit.  This is a flaw IMO in the arrow-per-lane signing requirements in the 2009 MUTCD.


What was there before:


OK... OK... you win!  :-D
Quote from: golden eagle
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hbelkins

The old sign is definitely better. The new design is no improvement at all.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

myosh_tino

Quote from: hbelkins on March 01, 2012, 01:35:30 PM
The old sign is definitely better. The new design is no improvement at all.
I would agree with that IF the arrows were properly placed on the signs.
Quote from: golden eagle
If I owned a dam and decided to donate it to charity, would I be giving a dam? I'm sure that might be a first because no one really gives a dam.

hbelkins

No complaints here about the arrow placement. Makes for a smaller (and less expensive) sign. Indiana kills me with all the wasted space on some of their guide signs. Waste of tax dollars IMO.
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