Control Cities

[sprjus4]

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Pittsburgh should be used instead of Breezwood.

Breezewood makes a lot of sense there. I-70 is on a N-S route in that area and Pittsburgh is west and I-70 doesn't even go to Pittsburgh.

HighwayStar?

Nope. But I do concur, I-70 does not go to Pittsburgh, therefore it should not be used as the control. Washington, PA or Wheeling, WV would also work, though Breezwood seems more appropriate.

[Roadgeekteen]

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7115234,-78.1862088,3a,75y,336.29h,93.91t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s431Lryya5mVr8ZNMEnZNdQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Pittsburgh should be used instead of Breezwood.

Breezewood makes a lot of sense there. I-70 is on a N-S route in that area and Pittsburgh is west and I-70 doesn't even go to Pittsburgh.

HighwayStar?

Nope. But I do concur, I-70 does not go to Pittsburgh, therefore it should not be used as the control. Washington, PA or Wheeling, WV would also work, though Breezwood seems more appropriate.

Oh no not again...

[HighwayStar]

Breezewood makes as much sense as Washington, Pa., does. It's the intersection of two major interstates.

Thought: Instead of using small towns as control cities (the two mentioned above, Wytheville, and any number of others), how about control intersections? Instead of washington, Pa., how about "Jct I-70" (for I-79) and "Jct I-79" (for I-70)?

Washington has about 13 times as many people as Breezwood.

Not entirely sold on the population of a place being the determinant of control city status. I would consider it a factor, but the transportation significance and military significance of a place would both be factors to take into account. Breezwood is a major intersection, so its a toss up. I would say that for the purposes of US 522 the intersection Breezewood makes sense, with the next control city being Washington PA to start appearing on millage signs, etc. after that point. Once past Breezewood, Wheeling, WV should be added.

[SkyPesos]

Breezewood makes as much sense as Washington, Pa., does. It's the intersection of two major interstates.

Thought: Instead of using small towns as control cities (the two mentioned above, Wytheville, and any number of others), how about control intersections? Instead of washington, Pa., how about "Jct I-70" (for I-79) and "Jct I-79" (for I-70)?

Washington has about 13 times as many people as Breezwood.

Not entirely sold on the population of a place being the determinant of control city status. I would consider it a factor, but the transportation significance and military significance of a place would both be factors to take into account. Breezwood is a major intersection, so its a toss up. I would say that for the purposes of US 522 the intersection Breezewood makes sense, with the next control city being Washington PA to start appearing on millage signs, etc. after that point. Once past Breezewood, Wheeling, WV should be added.

I-70 shares Pittsburgh with I-76 on the PA turnpike WB, and doesn't really get its "own"  control city until it exits the turnpike at New Stanton, where Wheeling gets signed. I think this setup is fine, as I-70 WB is still heading towards Pittsburgh on the turnpike.

[HighwayStar]

Breezewood makes as much sense as Washington, Pa., does. It's the intersection of two major interstates.

Thought: Instead of using small towns as control cities (the two mentioned above, Wytheville, and any number of others), how about control intersections? Instead of washington, Pa., how about "Jct I-70" (for I-79) and "Jct I-79" (for I-70)?

Washington has about 13 times as many people as Breezwood.

Not entirely sold on the population of a place being the determinant of control city status. I would consider it a factor, but the transportation significance and military significance of a place would both be factors to take into account. Breezwood is a major intersection, so its a toss up. I would say that for the purposes of US 522 the intersection Breezewood makes sense, with the next control city being Washington PA to start appearing on millage signs, etc. after that point. Once past Breezewood, Wheeling, WV should be added.

I-70 shares Pittsburgh with I-76 on the PA turnpike WB, and doesn't really get its "own"  control city until it exits the turnpike at New Stanton, where Wheeling gets signed.

Generally I consider the best practice for a concurrency to use one for each, in this case Pittsburgh and Wheeling WV

[sprjus4]

Breezewood makes as much sense as Washington, Pa., does. It's the intersection of two major interstates.

Thought: Instead of using small towns as control cities (the two mentioned above, Wytheville, and any number of others), how about control intersections? Instead of washington, Pa., how about "Jct I-70" (for I-79) and "Jct I-79" (for I-70)?

Washington has about 13 times as many people as Breezwood.

Not entirely sold on the population of a place being the determinant of control city status. I would consider it a factor, but the transportation significance and military significance of a place would both be factors to take into account. Breezwood is a major intersection, so its a toss up. I would say that for the purposes of US 522 the intersection Breezewood makes sense, with the next control city being Washington PA to start appearing on millage signs, etc. after that point. Once past Breezewood, Wheeling, WV should be added.

I-70 shares Pittsburgh with I-76 on the PA turnpike WB, and doesn't really get its "own"  control city until it exits the turnpike at New Stanton, where Wheeling gets signed.

Generally I consider the best practice for a concurrency to use one for each, in this case Pittsburgh and Wheeling WV

You would be pleased to learn that I-76 does not travel through Pittsburgh city limits... 

[Roadgeekteen]

Breezewood makes as much sense as Washington, Pa., does. It's the intersection of two major interstates.

Thought: Instead of using small towns as control cities (the two mentioned above, Wytheville, and any number of others), how about control intersections? Instead of washington, Pa., how about "Jct I-70" (for I-79) and "Jct I-79" (for I-70)?

Washington has about 13 times as many people as Breezwood.

Not entirely sold on the population of a place being the determinant of control city status. I would consider it a factor, but the transportation significance and military significance of a place would both be factors to take into account. Breezwood is a major intersection, so its a toss up. I would say that for the purposes of US 522 the intersection Breezewood makes sense, with the next control city being Washington PA to start appearing on millage signs, etc. after that point. Once past Breezewood, Wheeling, WV should be added.

I-70 shares Pittsburgh with I-76 on the PA turnpike WB, and doesn't really get its "own"  control city until it exits the turnpike at New Stanton, where Wheeling gets signed.

Generally I consider the best practice for a concurrency to use one for each, in this case Pittsburgh and Wheeling WV

You would be pleased to learn that I-76 does not travel through Pittsburgh city limits... 

Monroeville it is!

[jmacswimmer]

You would be pleased to learn that I-76 does not travel through Pittsburgh city limits... 

Monroeville it is!

Which already makes a one-off appearance on the WB pull-thru at exit 67...

[Roadgeekteen]

You would be pleased to learn that I-76 does not travel through Pittsburgh city limits... 

Monroeville it is!

Which already makes a one-off appearance on the WB pull-thru at exit 67...

Probably because it's where Pittsburgh thru traffic leaves I-76.

[Scott5114]

the only HighwayStar-compatible I-70 signage

[HighwayStar]

Breezewood makes as much sense as Washington, Pa., does. It's the intersection of two major interstates.

Thought: Instead of using small towns as control cities (the two mentioned above, Wytheville, and any number of others), how about control intersections? Instead of washington, Pa., how about "Jct I-70" (for I-79) and "Jct I-79" (for I-70)?

Washington has about 13 times as many people as Breezwood.

Not entirely sold on the population of a place being the determinant of control city status. I would consider it a factor, but the transportation significance and military significance of a place would both be factors to take into account. Breezwood is a major intersection, so its a toss up. I would say that for the purposes of US 522 the intersection Breezewood makes sense, with the next control city being Washington PA to start appearing on millage signs, etc. after that point. Once past Breezewood, Wheeling, WV should be added.

I-70 shares Pittsburgh with I-76 on the PA turnpike WB, and doesn't really get its "own"  control city until it exits the turnpike at New Stanton, where Wheeling gets signed.

Generally I consider the best practice for a concurrency to use one for each, in this case Pittsburgh and Wheeling WV

You would be pleased to learn that I-76 does not travel through Pittsburgh city limits... 

As I have said before, the city limits are not particularly relevant to determining control city status. I-76 is a bit of a mess since it was grandfathered in.

[Roadgeekteen]

Breezewood makes as much sense as Washington, Pa., does. It's the intersection of two major interstates.

Thought: Instead of using small towns as control cities (the two mentioned above, Wytheville, and any number of others), how about control intersections? Instead of washington, Pa., how about "Jct I-70" (for I-79) and "Jct I-79" (for I-70)?

Washington has about 13 times as many people as Breezwood.

Not entirely sold on the population of a place being the determinant of control city status. I would consider it a factor, but the transportation significance and military significance of a place would both be factors to take into account. Breezwood is a major intersection, so its a toss up. I would say that for the purposes of US 522 the intersection Breezewood makes sense, with the next control city being Washington PA to start appearing on millage signs, etc. after that point. Once past Breezewood, Wheeling, WV should be added.

I-70 shares Pittsburgh with I-76 on the PA turnpike WB, and doesn't really get its "own"  control city until it exits the turnpike at New Stanton, where Wheeling gets signed.

Generally I consider the best practice for a concurrency to use one for each, in this case Pittsburgh and Wheeling WV

You would be pleased to learn that I-76 does not travel through Pittsburgh city limits... 

As I have said before, the city limits are not particularly relevant to determining control city status. I-76 is a bit of a mess since it was grandfathered in.

Explain Baltimore then.

[Scott5114]

Breezewood makes as much sense as Washington, Pa., does. It's the intersection of two major interstates.

Thought: Instead of using small towns as control cities (the two mentioned above, Wytheville, and any number of others), how about control intersections? Instead of washington, Pa., how about "Jct I-70" (for I-79) and "Jct I-79" (for I-70)?

Washington has about 13 times as many people as Breezwood.

Not entirely sold on the population of a place being the determinant of control city status. I would consider it a factor, but the transportation significance and military significance of a place would both be factors to take into account. Breezwood is a major intersection, so its a toss up. I would say that for the purposes of US 522 the intersection Breezewood makes sense, with the next control city being Washington PA to start appearing on millage signs, etc. after that point. Once past Breezewood, Wheeling, WV should be added.

I-70 shares Pittsburgh with I-76 on the PA turnpike WB, and doesn't really get its "own"  control city until it exits the turnpike at New Stanton, where Wheeling gets signed.

Generally I consider the best practice for a concurrency to use one for each, in this case Pittsburgh and Wheeling WV

You would be pleased to learn that I-76 does not travel through Pittsburgh city limits... 

As I have said before, the city limits are not particularly relevant to determining control city status. I-76 is a bit of a mess since it was grandfathered in.

Explain Baltimore then.

Quit trolling.

[Roadgeekteen]

Moving on...

What is your guys options on using bridges and tunnels as control "cities"?

[hbelkins]

Del Mem Br
Geo Washington Br

[Roadgeekteen]

Del Mem Br
Geo Washington Br

So yes or no?

[Scott5114]

Del Mem Br
Geo Washington Br

So yes or no?

Delaware Water Gap

[jmacswimmer]

Del Mem Br
Geo Washington Br

So yes or no?

Delaware Water Gap

Bay Bridge

But in all seriousness...like my answer to most questions, depends on the context.  For my local example, I'm good with "Bay Bridge" because all Marylanders (asides from the ones in Cecil County) know that to reach the Eastern Shore, you must use the, er, Governor William Preston Lane Jr. Memorial Bridge to get there.  So in this sense, "Bay Bridge" is somewhat synonymous with "Eastern Shore" or "Beaches" as far as Marylanders are concerned.  (And then on the return trip, "Bay Bridge" is somewhat synonymous with "Annapolis".)

[hotdogPi]

Bay Bridge

But in all seriousness...like my answer to most questions, depends on the context.  For my local example, I'm good with "Bay Bridge" because all Marylanders (asides from the ones in Cecil County) know that to reach the Eastern Shore, you must use the, er, Governor William Preston Lane Jr. Memorial Bridge to get there.  So in this sense, "Bay Bridge" is somewhat synonymous with "Eastern Shore" or "Beaches" as far as Marylanders are concerned.  (And then on the return trip, "Bay Bridge" is somewhat synonymous with "Annapolis".)

My first thought upon seeing "Bay Bridge" is the one in California, despite living on the East Coast.

[roadman65]

Disney World, to be used on US 192.😱

[Roadgeekteen]

Disney World, to be used on US 192.😱

Disney World is a fine control city, it's like Cape Cod.

[hotdogPi]

Disney World, to be used on US 192.😱

Disney World is a fine control city, it's like Cape Cod.

It's advertising. What happens to Universal Studios and the others?

[roadman65]

Well isn't Six Flags now used on I-195 in NJ at Exit 16?

Again Advertising. 

Then again WB I-4 uses Universal at 74B and EB I-4 uses Sea World at 71.

[sprjus4]

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.2455944,-76.6371112,3a,48.9y,333.96h,89.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6Sc2ZxMosPD7L5W5jfISKw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

[Roadgeekteen]

Disney World, to be used on US 192.😱

Disney World is a fine control city, it's like Cape Cod.

It's advertising. What happens to Universal Studios and the others?

The road doesn't go to Universal, it goes to Disney. Major commercial attractions like Disney can be posted on signs. I would also be in favor of posting other major attractions on signs when relevant.