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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1750 on: October 06, 2020, 09:50:40 AM »

Never underestimate the value of an interstate:

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Cleveland ISD is the fastest-growing school district in Texas, Superintendent of Schools Chris Trotter said. The district, which currently has 8,600 students, might reach as many as 15,000 by 2025, he estimates. The district has grown nearly 125% since the 2014-15 school year, when it had 3,829 students, according to a November 2019 presentation.

Trotter attributed that growth, in part, to Cleveland ISD’s location, intersected by Interstate 69 and State Highway 105 northeast of Houston.

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2020/10/01/cleveland-isd-breaks-ground-school.html



I have been banging this drum forever.  An interstate makes ALL the difference t so many things, not just that you can drive non-stop.

Yes, a freeway (Interstate if you must) does drive growth. That said,  Cleveland texas is about the urban sprawl from Houston. It is about the same distance from Downtown Houston as Conroe. The biggest thing Cleveland has going for it is the housing pricing is relatively low. Crime is relatively low.

I can certainly offer you another place that has grown similarly: Princeton TX. Princeton is 15 miles from a freeway of any type.  As far as that goes, Frisco and far north Plano were also on small roads when they began their rush.  SH121 was 2 lanes at places going either east toward McKinney and west toward Grapevine.  Preston Road (which is what the growth surrounded, was a four-lane road (mostly) . While Frisco went nuts after SRT was built and DNT were extended the need for the sprawl to spread northward was necessary even without roads.

Just like Frisco  grew up around Preston Rd (SH-289) and Celina and Gunter are sprawling, Cleveland would most probably have grown up without I-69.  That said, the growth makes I-69 be needed even more than before.

It's a combination of both.  Urban sprawl happens along freeways, because it makes a long distance not seem like such a long distance.  You can take towns out the same distance away from the core as Cleveland and Conroe is, but there isn't as much growth because there isn't a freeway (Dayton and Liberty). 
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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1751 on: November 22, 2020, 10:01:38 PM »

Any news on the US 59/I-69 expansion in between Richmond-Rosenburg to Beasley and maybe Kendleton?

EDIT: and any news on the US 77/I-69 Driscoll and US 59/I-69 Nacogdoches bypasses too?

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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1752 on: November 22, 2020, 10:51:39 PM »

EDIT: and any news on the US 77/I-69 Driscoll and US 59/I-69 Nacogdoches bypasses too?

The work on I-69 at Nachogdoches was proceeding well when I drove through on September 7. See photos below. The section to the south of the elevated connector was not as far along but all right-of-way was cleared with work in progress.

Further south at Diboll, the forest was cleared from the right-of-way. As I've mentioned before, there is a tremendous amount of work still needing to be done to upgrade the corridor to Interstate standards all the way to Houston, and the projects in progress are addressing the worst slowdown locations.


Looking north along I-69, just south of Loop 224, on September 7, 2020



Construction of elevated connectors on September 7, 2020

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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1753 on: November 22, 2020, 11:21:33 PM »

EDIT: and any news on the US 77/I-69 Driscoll and US 59/I-69 Nacogdoches bypasses too?

The work on I-69 at Nachogdoches was proceeding well when I drove through on September 7. See photos below. The section to the south of the elevated connector was not as far along but all right-of-way was cleared with work in progress.

Further south at Diboll, the forest was cleared from the right-of-way. As I've mentioned before, there is a tremendous amount of work still needing to be done to upgrade the corridor to Interstate standards all the way to Houston, and the projects in progress are addressing the worst slowdown locations.


Looking north along I-69, just south of Loop 224, on September 7, 2020



Construction of elevated connectors on September 7, 2020
I had no idea work on I-69 in East Texas was already started! Do you happen to have the current alignment plan?

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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1754 on: November 23, 2020, 05:24:13 AM »

EDIT: and any news on the US 77/I-69 Driscoll and US 59/I-69 Nacogdoches bypasses too?

The work on I-69 at Nachogdoches was proceeding well when I drove through on September 7. See photos below. The section to the south of the elevated connector was not as far along but all right-of-way was cleared with work in progress.

Further south at Diboll, the forest was cleared from the right-of-way. As I've mentioned before, there is a tremendous amount of work still needing to be done to upgrade the corridor to Interstate standards all the way to Houston, and the projects in progress are addressing the worst slowdown locations.


Looking north along I-69, just south of Loop 224, on September 7, 2020



Construction of elevated connectors on September 7, 2020
I had no idea work on I-69 in East Texas was already started! Do you happen to have the current alignment plan?

Building the town bypasses first and following up with interim connections is always a good idea re rural freeway corridor sections, particularly when dealing with ongoing inflationary realities.  Get as much of the most expensive structures and interchange-heavy segments out of the way initially then connect them as funding allows.
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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1755 on: November 23, 2020, 12:44:23 PM »

Building the town bypasses first and following up with interim connections is always a good idea re rural freeway corridor sections, particularly when dealing with ongoing inflationary realities.  Get as much of the most expensive structures and interchange-heavy segments out of the way initially then connect them as funding allows.

There's another Texas-specific justification here: there's no law limiting the 75 mph speed limit to specific highway types. A four-lane divided highway without controlled access is generally just as fast as a freeway so long as town centers are bypassed and major intersections are grade-separated.
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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1756 on: November 23, 2020, 05:20:12 PM »

EDIT: and any news on the US 77/I-69 Driscoll and US 59/I-69 Nacogdoches bypasses too?

The work on I-69 at Nachogdoches was proceeding well when I drove through on September 7. See photos below. The section to the south of the elevated connector was not as far along but all right-of-way was cleared with work in progress.

Further south at Diboll, the forest was cleared from the right-of-way. As I've mentioned before, there is a tremendous amount of work still needing to be done to upgrade the corridor to Interstate standards all the way to Houston, and the projects in progress are addressing the worst slowdown locations.


Looking north along I-69, just south of Loop 224, on September 7, 2020


Construction of elevated connectors on September 7, 2020

The pictures reference this part of the project.

https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot-info/lfk/notices/090315-project-map.pdf

The full route schematic is here.

https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot-info/i69/projects/59/approved-schematic.pdf
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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1757 on: November 25, 2020, 10:33:53 AM »

I am unable to see the above pictures. Anybody else have that problem? Windows 10 laptop.
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Re: I-69 in TX
« Reply #1758 on: November 25, 2020, 10:41:57 AM »

I am unable to see the above pictures. Anybody else have that problem? Windows 10 laptop.

Google Chrome only allows HTTPS on this forum. HTTP photos won't show.
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