Multiple routes in one shield

[hbelkins]

I've seen a few photos that use the ampersand instead of a dash in the one-shield US 1/US 9 concurrency posting in New Jersey. Most others that use multiple route numbers in one shield (such as I-65-70 in Indianapolis and a few for the interstates in St. Louis).

Any other states sign multiple route numbers in one sign? Or use an ampersand instead of a dash?

Mods feel free to move to a separate thread if desired...

[agentsteel53]

Missouri seems to like the practice.





also Illinois:

[rmsandw]

You can find some currently in Illinois



That is in Downtown Chicago...



On Court St in Kankakee

[US71]

Then there's Louisiana style:

[Dr Frankenstein]

I've seen only one instance of this in Québec... a multiplex with QC-111 and another one I'm forgetting, somewhere around Val d'Or, I believe. I'd have to go on the hunt on Street View...

[Scott5114]

If I'm not mistaken, 412 and 56 have to share shield space for their entire routing through New Mexico.

[Ian]

The MD 2/MD 4 multiplex has a bunch of these shields:
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=38.583918,-76.605821&spn=0,0.019205&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=38.583983,-76.605875&panoid=TvGqK8zyWwI4J7MzD6pgwA&cbp=12,81.23,,0,-4.05

[kharvey10]

More street view in IL
Mt. Vernon, IL

[agentsteel53]

If I'm not mistaken, 412 and 56 have to share shield space for their entire routing through New Mexico.

there are still to this day some 56 shields without the matching 412.  Never mind that 412 was designated nearly 20 years ago.  And no, there are no stand-alone 412 markers.  Every 56 shield that was replaced was changed to one of those 30x30 pairings.

here is a somewhat less garish example from New Mexico:


and another that survives as of 2009.

[Quillz]

I'm still trying to figure out who thought numbering a highway "412" when it has no relation in any way to US-12 was a good idea.

Seriously, why do Routes 412 and 400 exist?

[agentsteel53]

I'm still trying to figure out who thought numbering a highway "412" when it has no relation in any way to US-12 was a good idea.

Seriously, why do Routes 412 and 400 exist?

same reason that 425 exists.  Someone thought of creating the routes 4xx, where xx is an (approximate) multiple of 100/8, to denote new corridors that apparently needed to be denoted.  I think there was a plan for a US-437 as well at some point.

[relaxok]

That 40-71,69-169 missouri sign is an abomination.. I feel sick.

[Quillz]

I'm still trying to figure out who thought numbering a highway "412" when it has no relation in any way to US-12 was a good idea.

Seriously, why do Routes 412 and 400 exist?

same reason that 425 exists.  Someone thought of creating the routes 4xx, where xx is an (approximate) multiple of 100/8, to denote new corridors that apparently needed to be denoted.  I think there was a plan for a US-437 as well at some point.

I've never heard of anything like that, is there a document somewhere that explains how this works? I'm having a hard time visualizing it.

To me, it simply implies that the U.S. numbered highways numbering pattern is basically a joke at this point.

[Henry]

I'm still trying to figure out who thought numbering a highway "412" when it has no relation in any way to US-12 was a good idea.

Seriously, why do Routes 412 and 400 exist?

same reason that 425 exists.  Someone thought of creating the routes 4xx, where xx is an (approximate) multiple of 100/8, to denote new corridors that apparently needed to be denoted.  I think there was a plan for a US-437 as well at some point.

I've never heard of anything like that, is there a document somewhere that explains how this works? I'm having a hard time visualizing it.

To me, it simply implies that the U.S. numbered highways numbering pattern is basically a joke at this point.

Whoever designated these US routes must be a distant relative of Bud Shuster!

With I-99 and I-238, the Interstate Highways numbering pattern is also a joke. One is further away from the Atlantic coast than it needs to be, and the other...well, everyone knows that there has never been an I-38, so let's leave it at that.

[usends]

In 2006 I observed sort of a counter-example in Madison WI.  There, the Beltline carries up to four different US route designations.  But instead of trying to fit all those numbers into a single shield, they simply use a blank shield:

More commentary on this page:
http://usends.com/Explore/2006_10_Madison/index.html

[agentsteel53]

not the only place Wisconsin has done that.



here, saving some aluminum, is Virginia's interpretation.



yes, with state name!

[yakra]

How exactly does one pronounce that?

[agentsteel53]

How exactly does one pronounce that?

it rhymes with "orange".

[Bickendan]

That gantry's almost redeemed with the cutouts and the statename.

[hobsini2]

Snipped all of the images because... because I CAN.
Where is that "City Route US 12-20" sign?  i know it's in Chicago but where?

[US71]

Where is that "City Route US 12-20" sign?  i know it's in Chicago but where?

Likely along Michigan Ave south of Congress Parkway, across from the Congress Hotel

[Bickendan]

^Shenanigans, I say!