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Flint1979

A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.


Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.
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Flint1979

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.
The amount of fans a team has don't have much to do with how nice their fans are. There are probably more White Sox fans than you think there are too.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.
The amount of fans a team has don't have much to do with how nice their fans are. There are probably more White Sox fans than you think there are too.
Cubs fans probably obnoxious because they won 5 years ago and they get way more media attention than the White Sox.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.

The White Sox aren't really a rival of the Brewers, at least not in over a generation now. The Brewers are a team the Sox plays one series every 3 years. The Cubs are a team the Brewers play 6 series every year. As a Sox fan, I'm going to be much less obnoxious in Milwaukee than say, Cleveland or Detroit.

What I did notice was that the restaurant where we ate lunch and our section at the stadium were both more than half Sox fans. Milwaukee has a very good team and I know there is probably some NBA hangover right now but the Brewers deserve more support.
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Alps

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.
There aren't more Red Sux fans than anyone else, and yet they are definitely the least nice.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Alps on July 26, 2021, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.
There aren't more Red Sux fans than anyone else, and yet they are definitely the least nice.
There are a ton of Red Sox fans. Maybe second to the Yankees.
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Flint1979

Quote from: cabiness42 on July 26, 2021, 07:03:53 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.

The White Sox aren't really a rival of the Brewers, at least not in over a generation now. The Brewers are a team the Sox plays one series every 3 years. The Cubs are a team the Brewers play 6 series every year. As a Sox fan, I'm going to be much less obnoxious in Milwaukee than say, Cleveland or Detroit.

What I did notice was that the restaurant where we ate lunch and our section at the stadium were both more than half Sox fans. Milwaukee has a very good team and I know there is probably some NBA hangover right now but the Brewers deserve more support.
Yeah I pretty much said the same thing since I remember the days of Milwaukee being in the American League quite well. They used to be a rival of the White Sox but since they aren't in the AL anymore and that's been over a generation ago now it's not a rivalry anymore. But this isn't the first time I've heard someone complain about Cubs fans. I think they play them on the Southside later in the year so they play them twice this year but I know what you're saying. That's the thing with the Cubs and Brewers though they are division rivals so it makes sense that they think Cubs fans are bad. I've been pretty obnoxious with Tigers and Indians fans before they both have annoying fan bases.

The section I sat in all three games was about 60% Sox fans I thought well this is cool at least I'll get along with everyone. Yeah with the Bucks winning they probably are all into that right now so the Brewers are probably something they'll catch on with later if they have a deep October run. They could too they have a pretty nice ballclub. I love that ballpark I've been going to games there for years.

It's been a funny year I've been to 13 Sox games and none of them have been home games. I almost went to a home game back in April but didn't get to Chicago until it was too late and they were on the road the next day. I'm not going to go to a Cubs game as an alternative either lol.

Flint1979

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 06:19:15 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 04:31:30 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.
The amount of fans a team has don't have much to do with how nice their fans are. There are probably more White Sox fans than you think there are too.
Cubs fans probably obnoxious because they won 5 years ago and they get way more media attention than the White Sox.
Well the Cubs suck now and they shouldn't get more media attention than the Sox. The Sox have historically been a better team.

Flint1979

Wait I'll give you the reason why the Cubs have such a large fan base. Three letters, WGN.

Back before the internet was big and MLB Extra Innings was available you had a few options. You had the Cubs on WGN every single game just about, you had the Braves on TBS every single game just about as well and you had whatever regional team was in your area in my case that would be the Tigers. So everyone was a fan of one of those teams (regional teams being different in different areas of course and the media markets that have two teams had both of course).

For me personally I watched a lot of baseball and watched all the games I could. The Cubs were always on when I got home from school so I'd watch them (I was never a fan of theirs but I did mock Harry Caray pretty good) until the game was over then I'd wait and watch either the Braves or Tigers later. The White Sox came on WGN too but not as often as the Cubs since the Tribune Company owned both WGN and the Cubs they favored them. So the Cubs had this national exposure long before the internet was around it started when cable tv started basically.

I can remember Wrigley Field being empty in the 1980's with no one going to games before it was a yuppie thing to be to be a Cubs fan. I didn't like the party atmosphere at Wrigley and people being on their cell phones instead of watching the game. It was a drunken atmosphere and Cubs fans are about as bad as Packers fans are. I never liked Wrigley Field in general either I found it to be a dump, in fact Fenway Park which is two years older was in better shape when I visited that park in 2004. Last time I went to a Cubs game was in 2013, I sat on the third base side in the upper deck with a Cincinnati Reds hat on and rooted for the Reds who won the game 2-1. I remember the date because game one of the Stanley Cup Finals was on that night and I went to a bar in Chicago to watch it (June 12, 2013).

KeithE4Phx

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 07:39:49 PM
Quote from: Alps on July 26, 2021, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.
There aren't more Red Sux fans than anyone else, and yet they are definitely the least nice.
There are a ton of Red Sox fans. Maybe second to the Yankees.

I'm willing to bet that there are comparatively few Red Sox fans nationwide, outside of New England and people who moved away from New England.  I know quite a few in metro Phoenix, but all are ex-Bostonians.  We have far more Cubs, White Sox, Cardinals, Tigers, Indians, Brewers, and Twins fans here than Red Sox.  Or Yankees, for that matter.  The Dodgers and Giants are big here as well (lots of ex-Californians in Arizona).

Nationwide, the Yankees are like the Cowboys, Lakers, and Buckeyes:  Teams with national interest, as well as teams people love to hate.  The Red Sox are loved mainly by people from New England, including Connecticut-based ESPN.
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Flint1979

People don't realize how many fans the White Sox really do have. We don't have a ballpark that doubles as a tourist trap. Our ballpark is much nicer than Wrigley Field anyway and I've heard that even from Cubs fans.

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 07:39:49 PM
Quote from: Alps on July 26, 2021, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.
There aren't more Red Sux fans than anyone else, and yet they are definitely the least nice.
There are a ton of Red Sox fans. Maybe second to the Yankees.

We're nice as long as you're not a Yankee fan.  And yes, the fan base has grown since 2004 (I've been on the bus since 84).  I'd say Philly fans are the least nice; they boo Santa Claus and throw batteries.
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tchafe1978

Brewers fans do support their team, that's why they've been in the top 5 or 10 in attendance the past few years, which is great considering Milwaukee is the smallest market in MLB. The problem is when the Brewers play the Scrubs, and the White Sox, is many tickets are bought up by FIBS from Chicago, or even fans of those two teams from Wisconsin, since especially for the Scrubs, fans have a tough time getting tickets for Miller Park South. So then us Brewers fand have to deal with a stadium half full of obnoxious Scrubs fans. How sweet it was when the Brewers swept the Scrubs back to Chicago the last series they played, and just took 2 of 3 from the Sox.

Henry

Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 09:45:55 PM
Wait I'll give you the reason why the Cubs have such a large fan base. Three letters, WGN.

Back before the internet was big and MLB Extra Innings was available you had a few options. You had the Cubs on WGN every single game just about, you had the Braves on TBS every single game just about as well and you had whatever regional team was in your area in my case that would be the Tigers. So everyone was a fan of one of those teams (regional teams being different in different areas of course and the media markets that have two teams had both of course).

For me personally I watched a lot of baseball and watched all the games I could. The Cubs were always on when I got home from school so I'd watch them (I was never a fan of theirs but I did mock Harry Caray pretty good) until the game was over then I'd wait and watch either the Braves or Tigers later. The White Sox came on WGN too but not as often as the Cubs since the Tribune Company owned both WGN and the Cubs they favored them. So the Cubs had this national exposure long before the internet was around it started when cable tv started basically.

I can remember Wrigley Field being empty in the 1980's with no one going to games before it was a yuppie thing to be to be a Cubs fan. I didn't like the party atmosphere at Wrigley and people being on their cell phones instead of watching the game. It was a drunken atmosphere and Cubs fans are about as bad as Packers fans are. I never liked Wrigley Field in general either I found it to be a dump, in fact Fenway Park which is two years older was in better shape when I visited that park in 2004. Last time I went to a Cubs game was in 2013, I sat on the third base side in the upper deck with a Cincinnati Reds hat on and rooted for the Reds who won the game 2-1. I remember the date because game one of the Stanley Cup Finals was on that night and I went to a bar in Chicago to watch it (June 12, 2013).
Yes, WGN...great memories. Up to the time I entered high school, the Cubs always stunk so bad that I would get teased by White Sox fans who reminded me that they (the Cubs) lost another game and that I should switch to them (the White Sox) instead. It was especially bad in '83, when the Sox won the AL West for the first time ever, and I had never been so tortured before. But then the Cubs won the NL East the next season, and I felt like I had gotten my revenge; however, it didn't last long as they lost to the Padres in the NLCS (Baltimore had beaten the Sox in the prior year's ALCS, and won the World Series as well). Once I got to college, I felt free to continue my Cubs fandom because I had WGN on cable, and I remain a huge fan to this day.

As to Cubs fans not being nice, I guess it was easy to get carried away following the 2016 World Series win, but I do believe that they are better than most other teams' fanbases, especially the two New York teams (Yankees and Mets, which rank high on my hate list). Speaking of New York, the Mets were on superstation WOR, so that you had a chance to marvel at (or be repulsed by) their bad boy persona from just about everywhere. Personally, the '86 Mets were the lowest point of my life (although the 2015 NLCS win over the Cubs would overtake that as the new low), and that's when I first called them evil, because of their antics. Plus seeing them win the World Series that year made me want to vomit. I had never been so happier when they began their decline in the early 90s. As obnoxious as you think Cubs fans are, Mets fans are even worse; in fact, they are so bad that they make Yankee fans look like saints.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: tchafe1978 on July 27, 2021, 10:27:22 AM
Brewers fans do support their team, that's why they've been in the top 5 or 10 in attendance the past few years, which is great considering Milwaukee is the smallest market in MLB. The problem is when the Brewers play the Scrubs, and the White Sox, is many tickets are bought up by FIBS from Chicago, or even fans of those two teams from Wisconsin, since especially for the Scrubs, fans have a tough time getting tickets for Miller Park South. So then us Brewers fand have to deal with a stadium half full of obnoxious Scrubs fans. How sweet it was when the Brewers swept the Scrubs back to Chicago the last series they played, and just took 2 of 3 from the Sox.

I bought my tickets a week before the game. My seats had been available for Brewers fans to purchase for quite a while.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: tchafe1978 on July 27, 2021, 10:27:22 AM
Brewers fans do support their team, that's why they've been in the top 5 or 10 in attendance the past few years, which is great considering Milwaukee is the smallest market in MLB. The problem is when the Brewers play the Scrubs, and the White Sox, is many tickets are bought up by FIBS from Chicago, or even fans of those two teams from Wisconsin, since especially for the Scrubs, fans have a tough time getting tickets for Miller Park South. So then us Brewers fand have to deal with a stadium half full of obnoxious Scrubs fans. How sweet it was when the Brewers swept the Scrubs back to Chicago the last series they played, and just took 2 of 3 from the Sox.

When the Phillies play the Mets and Yankees, there are a lot of NY fans in the ballpark.  Much, much cheaper than going to a NY game - and that's just considering the cost of travel, not even taking into account the cheaper tickets usually available. And much easier getting to Citizens Bank Park too, especially if the fans are from NJ. 

At the same time, Philly fans are known to travel, and there's an above-average number of Phillies fans at away games, no matter where they're playing.

Flint1979

Quote from: Henry on July 27, 2021, 10:49:29 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 09:45:55 PM
Wait I'll give you the reason why the Cubs have such a large fan base. Three letters, WGN.

Back before the internet was big and MLB Extra Innings was available you had a few options. You had the Cubs on WGN every single game just about, you had the Braves on TBS every single game just about as well and you had whatever regional team was in your area in my case that would be the Tigers. So everyone was a fan of one of those teams (regional teams being different in different areas of course and the media markets that have two teams had both of course).

For me personally I watched a lot of baseball and watched all the games I could. The Cubs were always on when I got home from school so I'd watch them (I was never a fan of theirs but I did mock Harry Caray pretty good) until the game was over then I'd wait and watch either the Braves or Tigers later. The White Sox came on WGN too but not as often as the Cubs since the Tribune Company owned both WGN and the Cubs they favored them. So the Cubs had this national exposure long before the internet was around it started when cable tv started basically.

I can remember Wrigley Field being empty in the 1980's with no one going to games before it was a yuppie thing to be to be a Cubs fan. I didn't like the party atmosphere at Wrigley and people being on their cell phones instead of watching the game. It was a drunken atmosphere and Cubs fans are about as bad as Packers fans are. I never liked Wrigley Field in general either I found it to be a dump, in fact Fenway Park which is two years older was in better shape when I visited that park in 2004. Last time I went to a Cubs game was in 2013, I sat on the third base side in the upper deck with a Cincinnati Reds hat on and rooted for the Reds who won the game 2-1. I remember the date because game one of the Stanley Cup Finals was on that night and I went to a bar in Chicago to watch it (June 12, 2013).
Yes, WGN...great memories. Up to the time I entered high school, the Cubs always stunk so bad that I would get teased by White Sox fans who reminded me that they (the Cubs) lost another game and that I should switch to them (the White Sox) instead. It was especially bad in '83, when the Sox won the AL West for the first time ever, and I had never been so tortured before. But then the Cubs won the NL East the next season, and I felt like I had gotten my revenge; however, it didn't last long as they lost to the Padres in the NLCS (Baltimore had beaten the Sox in the prior year's ALCS, and won the World Series as well). Once I got to college, I felt free to continue my Cubs fandom because I had WGN on cable, and I remain a huge fan to this day.

As to Cubs fans not being nice, I guess it was easy to get carried away following the 2016 World Series win, but I do believe that they are better than most other teams' fanbases, especially the two New York teams (Yankees and Mets, which rank high on my hate list). Speaking of New York, the Mets were on superstation WOR, so that you had a chance to marvel at (or be repulsed by) their bad boy persona from just about everywhere. Personally, the '86 Mets were the lowest point of my life (although the 2015 NLCS win over the Cubs would overtake that as the new low), and that's when I first called them evil, because of their antics. Plus seeing them win the World Series that year made me want to vomit. I had never been so happier when they began their decline in the early 90s. As obnoxious as you think Cubs fans are, Mets fans are even worse; in fact, they are so bad that they make Yankee fans look like saints.
Those were some good memories even though I wasn't a Cubs fan. Harry doing the 7th inning stretch started on the Southside and Harry was a horrible singer. When he was with the Cubs I was too young to remember him with the Sox but when he was with the Cubs I saw him do it all the time and just thought he had been with the Cubs forever but little did I know he actually broadcast for the Cardinals for the majority of his career. I remember that thing they did on his 50 years in baseball with Bob Costas and learned about him there.

Ahh yes Steve Garvey the 1984 Cubs Killer. They didn't fare too well against the Tigers in the World Series that year. I was only 5 years old but I remember Gibson's home run in game 5 to seal the deal for the Motor City Kitty Cats.

I remember the Mets on WOR too and the drug addicts on the 86 team like Lenny Dykstra, Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling and so on. I agree Mets fans are some of the most obnoxious fans around and don't pat yourselves on the back Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies fans because your fan bases aren't any better. I didn't mind the Red Sox before 2004 but after they won that World Series it was like they were God's gift to baseball and the best thing since sliced bread. I don't care about their comeback in the ALCS that year either, that Yankees team wasn't very good and it shouldn't of even went to 7 games. The Yankees had a garbage pitching staff that year they were due to implode.

ET21

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.

Thanks for saying that for the 1000th time, cause that's all I've heard for the past 10 years when chatting about CWS  :rolleyes:
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Flint1979

Quote from: ET21 on July 27, 2021, 03:19:48 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on July 26, 2021, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 26, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
A Brewers fan told me yesterday that White Sox fans are much nicer than Cubs fans.
Probably true, as there are fewer of them.

Thanks for saying that for the 1000th time, cause that's all I've heard for the past 10 years when chatting about CWS  :rolleyes:
Exactly every time you talk to a Cubs fan all they talk about is attendance like they get some kind of trophy for that or something I don't know.

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Alps

I see no one posted GALLO so

jp the roadgeek

Quote from: Alps on July 29, 2021, 12:53:15 AM
I see no one posted GALLO so

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Henry

Bryant and Rizzo have been scratched from the Cubs' lineup today, so would it mean that both are on their way out? (I can see one of them going, though.)
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Alps

Quote from: Henry on July 29, 2021, 02:51:45 PM
Bryant and Rizzo have been scratched from the Cubs' lineup today, so would it mean that both are on their way out? (I can see one of them going, though.)
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