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Started by un1, January 19, 2009, 03:21:49 PM

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Tolls are going to be removed on the provincially operated section of the 407 (east of Brock Road) on June 1st.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/news/doug-ford-announces-cut-to-provincial-gas-tax-removal-of-tolls-on-part-of-highway-407/vi-AA1EHsqs#details

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webny99

The QEW is reduced to two lanes per direction for some sort of rehabilitation work near Seventh St, just west of St Catharines. This will affect any trips I take to Canada this season so I've been keeping a pretty close eye on it and it seems to be holding up reasonably well during the weekdays (as it should), but creating major issues on the weekends.

At one point yesterday afternoon, Niagara-bound traffic approaching the work zone was backed up almost to Lincoln - a distance of around 10km. There are simply no good alternates to this route aside from the Service Roads, which also back up quickly anytime the mainline is congested. For Toronto-bound traffic the situation can get even worse because the two lanes also have to accommodate entering traffic from ON 406, and once it backs up there are no service roads across Martindale Pond, so the only alternatives are going through Port Dalhousie or all the way down to ON 406, both of which require a significant detour on St. Catharines city streets.

Rothman

...or just plan on it taking more time to get to Toronto...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

webny99

Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 08:23:26 AM...or just plan on it taking more time to get to Toronto...

Of course, outside of overnight or early morning hours, assuming any sort of time frame for getting between Toronto and Niagara is a fool's errand to begin with.

Rothman

Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 08:32:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 08:23:26 AM...or just plan on it taking more time to get to Toronto...

Of course, outside of overnight or early morning hours, assuming any sort of time frame for getting between Toronto and Niagara is a fool's errand to begin with.

I've never had a major issue getting to Toronto on the weekend.  Yep, there's some traffic.  It's a big city...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

webny99

Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 08:32:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 08:23:26 AM...or just plan on it taking more time to get to Toronto...

Of course, outside of overnight or early morning hours, assuming any sort of time frame for getting between Toronto and Niagara is a fool's errand to begin with.

I've never had a major issue getting to Toronto on the weekend.  Yep, there's some traffic.  It's a big city...

Depends on how you define 'major'. It's a 1 hour trip at best and 3+ at worst.

Rothman

Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 10:30:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 08:32:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 08:23:26 AM...or just plan on it taking more time to get to Toronto...

Of course, outside of overnight or early morning hours, assuming any sort of time frame for getting between Toronto and Niagara is a fool's errand to begin with.

I've never had a major issue getting to Toronto on the weekend.  Yep, there's some traffic.  It's a big city...

Depends on how you define 'major'. It's a 1 hour trip at best and 3+ at worst.

That's what Google Maps/Waze is for.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

JREwing78

The QEW really needs a companion E-W highway along the south side of Hamilton and Welland to connect into the QEW's terminus at Fort Erie, or a massive widening. Where connecting to Michigan justified 2 separate freeways, the connection to New York is choked down to one narrow, ancient 6-lane freeway. 

Stephane Dumas

Quote from: JREwing78 on May 23, 2025, 12:06:57 PMThe QEW really needs a companion E-W highway along the south side of Hamilton and Welland to connect into the QEW's terminus at Fort Erie, or a massive widening. Where connecting to Michigan justified 2 separate freeways, the connection to New York is choked down to one narrow, ancient 6-lane freeway.

There is a proposal called the Mid-Peninsula Highway or the "Mid-Pen" to parralel the QEW but it faced opposition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Peninsula_Highway

Molandfreak

Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 11:33:48 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 10:30:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 08:32:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 08:23:26 AM...or just plan on it taking more time to get to Toronto...

Of course, outside of overnight or early morning hours, assuming any sort of time frame for getting between Toronto and Niagara is a fool's errand to begin with.

I've never had a major issue getting to Toronto on the weekend.  Yep, there's some traffic.  It's a big city...

Depends on how you define 'major'. It's a 1 hour trip at best and 3+ at worst.

That's what Google Maps/Waze is for.
And the 407.

Inclusive infrastructure advocate

Rothman

Quote from: Molandfreak on May 24, 2025, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 11:33:48 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 10:30:43 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 08:32:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 08:23:26 AM...or just plan on it taking more time to get to Toronto...

Of course, outside of overnight or early morning hours, assuming any sort of time frame for getting between Toronto and Niagara is a fool's errand to begin with.

I've never had a major issue getting to Toronto on the weekend.  Yep, there's some traffic.  It's a big city...

Depends on how you define 'major'. It's a 1 hour trip at best and 3+ at worst.

That's what Google Maps/Waze is for.
And the 407.

407 is for wiping out your bank account.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

webny99

Quote from: JREwing78 on May 23, 2025, 12:06:57 PMThe QEW really needs a companion E-W highway along the south side of Hamilton and Welland to connect into the QEW's terminus at Fort Erie, or a massive widening. Where connecting to Michigan justified 2 separate freeways, the connection to New York is choked down to one narrow, ancient 6-lane freeway.

Yeah, for sure. The crazy thing is it wasn't that long ago that it was only four lanes, but the Golden Horseshoe has exploded so much in recent decades that even six lanes is no longer sufficient.



Quote from: Stephane Dumas on May 23, 2025, 02:59:53 PMThere is a proposal called the Mid-Peninsula Highway or the "Mid-Pen" to parralel the QEW but it faced opposition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Peninsula_Highway

I doubt this will ever happen, but it would be great as an extension of the 407 and an outer bypass of Hamilton.



Quote from: Molandfreak on May 24, 2025, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 11:33:48 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 10:30:43 PMDepends on how you define 'major'. It's a 1 hour trip at best and 3+ at worst.

That's what Google Maps/Waze is for.
And the 407.

The 407 ends at Burlington though. Burlington to Niagara is the real problem, especially in the summer months.



Molandfreak

Quote from: webny99 on May 26, 2025, 11:39:44 AM
Quote from: Molandfreak on May 24, 2025, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 19, 2025, 11:33:48 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 19, 2025, 10:30:43 PMDepends on how you define 'major'. It's a 1 hour trip at best and 3+ at worst.

That's what Google Maps/Waze is for.
And the 407.

The 407 ends at Burlington though. Burlington to Niagara is the real problem, especially in the summer months.
I know that all too well. While it isn't any faster, Regional Road 20 is a beautiful and stress-free drive, so that's good enough of an alternative for me.

Inclusive infrastructure advocate

Rothman

Just drove the Gardiner/QEW from Toronto to ON 405 right at rush hour.  Wasn't horrible.  Maybe 30 minutes of delay altogether.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

webny99

Quote from: Molandfreak on May 26, 2025, 03:28:14 PM
QuoteBurlington to Niagara is the real problem, especially in the summer months.
I know that all too well. While it isn't any faster, Regional Road 20 is a beautiful and stress-free drive, so that's good enough of an alternative for me.

I've never done RR 20, but I'll keep it in mind if traffic is particularly bad this summer. Probably much more scenic than QEW, despite the "lake views" along the latter.



Quote from: Rothman on May 26, 2025, 11:08:44 PMJust drove the Gardiner/QEW from Toronto to ON 405 right at rush hour.  Wasn't horrible.  Maybe 30 minutes of delay altogether.

Sounds about right for a weekday. On a summer weekend, Oakville to Grimsby alone can easily double that.

Rothman

Quote from: webny99 on May 27, 2025, 10:15:59 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 26, 2025, 11:08:44 PMJust drove the Gardiner/QEW from Toronto to ON 405 right at rush hour.  Wasn't horrible.  Maybe 30 minutes of delay altogether.

Sounds about right for a weekday. On a summer weekend, Oakville to Grimsby alone can easily double that.

Fearmongerer.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

webny99

Quote from: Rothman on May 27, 2025, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: webny99 on May 27, 2025, 10:15:59 PM
Quote from: Rothman on May 26, 2025, 11:08:44 PMJust drove the Gardiner/QEW from Toronto to ON 405 right at rush hour.  Wasn't horrible.  Maybe 30 minutes of delay altogether.

Sounds about right for a weekday. On a summer weekend, Oakville to Grimsby alone can easily double that.

Fearmongerer.

Experience is the mother of wisdom.

Sincerely,
Your Resident Fearmongerer

AsphaltPlanet

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Stephane Dumas

Google Earth show the new configuration in construction of the
QEW interchange with Dixie Road
.

MikeTheActuary


AsphaltPlanet

View looking west from the Rougemont Drive over overpass over the 401 at the Pickering/Scarborough boundary:

https://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_401_images/401_cl_DSC05709_42x28.jpg
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andrepoiy

Quote from: AsphaltPlanet on December 02, 2025, 10:39:46 AMView looking west from the Rougemont Drive over overpass over the 401 at the Pickering/Scarborough boundary:
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https://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_401_images/401_cl_DSC05709_42x28.jpg

I don't know anything about cameras - is it normal for cameras to have "astigmatism"? Looking at the high-mast lighting



AsphaltPlanet

They are called sunstars.  They are created by the aperture of the lens and any bright light source.  Sunstars can be controlled by opening or closing the aperture on a lens.  Each individual lens will have its own distinct looking sunstar depending upon how many aperture blades the lens has as well as what type of internal coatings the lens uses to control flare and maintain contrast.  And yes, they are normal.
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