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Started by Tom89t, January 14, 2012, 01:01:45 AM

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Quote from: STLmapboy on August 31, 2020, 02:23:06 PM

Also in Northern Ohio; some super weird arrows that I'm gonna guess are found nowhere else in the US, if not the world.

Might have been an Ohio thing, as I am old enough to remember seeing the criss-cross arrows in signals in Toledo, Lorain and Independence -- all are long gone.



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Take a look at this removed signal area in Lorain (huge "57" sign) and this a mile or two away.
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Quote from: STLmapboy on August 31, 2020, 02:23:06 PM
Ohio near-airport install. Notice how they're all ground mounted.

Very reminiscent of this installation in Langley, BC. Again, near an airport. Post-mounted signals are normal in BC, but very rare without at least one overhead signal.

They even have little flashing lights on top.

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 30, 2020, 12:23:02 PM
Ever seen a mast arm painted vivid blue before?

I've seen one painted regular blue, in Victoria BC. Millstream & McCallum, out west of the city centre. Some other signals in the area are painted similarly in other colors, like this red one.


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kphoger

Quote from: jakeroot on September 01, 2020, 02:40:50 PM
Very reminiscent of https://i.imgur.com/H7fiY35.jpg[/img]]this installation in Langley, BC. Again, near an airport. Post-mounted signals are normal in BC, but very rare without at least one overhead signal.

I attempted to fix this, but your post-mounted link ended up being the same thing as what's posted at the bottom.
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Quote from: kphoger on September 01, 2020, 02:59:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 01, 2020, 02:40:50 PM
Very reminiscent of https://i.imgur.com/H7fiY35.jpg[/img]]this installation in Langley, BC. Again, near an airport. Post-mounted signals are normal in BC, but very rare without at least one overhead signal.

I attempted to fix this, but your post-mounted link ended up being the same thing as what's posted at the bottom.

I have no idea how I didn't notice that. Must have been drunk this morning. Hmm.

Fixed. Thanks for the heads up.

jakeroot

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on September 01, 2020, 02:44:24 PM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on August 31, 2020, 10:27:31 PM
Doghouse in DC?

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9658016,-77.0025126,3a,69y,178.07h,85.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3Q5MzLC5YZQSQfKbWtLuOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Also, improper 5-element signal?

Could you expand a bit on what you mean by "improper"? Looks good to me. AFAIK, it's normal in many places for overhead signals to use doghouse layouts, but for mast-/post-mounted signals to use vertical 5-section towers. In case this is what you're referring to.

kphoger

Quote from: jakeroot on September 01, 2020, 03:29:18 PM

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on September 01, 2020, 02:44:24 PM

Quote from: Amtrakprod on August 31, 2020, 10:27:31 PM
Doghouse in DC?

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9658016,-77.0025126,3a,69y,178.07h,85.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3Q5MzLC5YZQSQfKbWtLuOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Also, improper 5-element signal?

Could you expand a bit on what you mean by "improper"? Looks good to me. AFAIK, it's normal in many places for overhead signals to use doghouse layouts, but for mast-/post-mounted signals to use vertical 5-section towers. In case this is what you're referring to.

For those interested, here is a shot of all three left arrows in use.  And those for the cross street.
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Quote from: jakeroot on September 01, 2020, 03:26:33 PM
Must have been drunk this morning. Hmm.

You know you have a problem when you don't even remember that you were drunk.   :cheers:
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Quote from: STLmapboy on August 31, 2020, 02:23:06 PM
Ohio near-airport install. Notice how they're all ground mounted.

Am I the only one who actually really digs this install? Something about it just looks really good.

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Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 01, 2020, 03:47:19 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 31, 2020, 02:23:06 PM
Ohio near-airport install. Notice how they're all ground mounted.

Am I the only one who actually really digs this install? Something about it just looks really good.

Not at all.  I love it too.  All four approaches have signals at all four corners.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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jakeroot

#3263
Quote from: kphoger on September 01, 2020, 03:41:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 01, 2020, 03:29:18 PM

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on September 01, 2020, 02:44:24 PM

Quote from: Amtrakprod on August 31, 2020, 10:27:31 PM
Doghouse in DC?

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9658016,-77.0025126,3a,69y,178.07h,85.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3Q5MzLC5YZQSQfKbWtLuOg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Also, improper 5-element signal?

Could you expand a bit on what you mean by "improper"? Looks good to me. AFAIK, it's normal in many places for overhead signals to use doghouse layouts, but for mast-/post-mounted signals to use vertical 5-section towers. In case this is what you're referring to.

For those interested, here is a shot of all three left arrows in use.  And those for the cross street.

Ahhhhh. Yeah, that's pretty peculiar. Although having a left-facing arrow on the right edge of the intersection is pretty common in DC.

I've also seen it at least once before, at this on-ramp in Lakewood, WA (both ramp terminals).

I can't recall exactly, but I'm 90% sure that left-facing arrows are not allowed on the right edge of intersection. Near the right edge, yes, but not on the edge (like on the mast or a post).

jakeroot

Quote from: kphoger on September 01, 2020, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 01, 2020, 03:26:33 PM
Must have been drunk this morning. Hmm.

You know you have a problem when you don't even remember that you were drunk.   :cheers:

That's for damn sure!!! :-D

Quote from: kphoger on September 01, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 01, 2020, 03:47:19 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 31, 2020, 02:23:06 PM
Ohio near-airport install. Notice how they're all ground mounted.

Am I the only one who actually really digs this install? Something about it just looks really good.

Not at all.  I love it too.  All four approaches have signals at all four corners.

Coming in here for a third vote. I think it's lovely. I would much prefer this to be the "base" installation according to FHWA standards, with overhead signals being supplementary. I just find them more useful when trying to see around vehicles.

SignBridge

Once again, that's why I've always thought that California (and Nevada) do it best. They usually have a combination of pole and overhead mounted heads, providing the best of all worlds.

Amtrakprod

Quote from: kphoger on September 01, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 01, 2020, 03:47:19 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 31, 2020, 02:23:06 PM
Ohio near-airport install. Notice how they're all ground mounted.

Am I the only one who actually really digs this install? Something about it just looks really good.

Not at all.  I love it too.  All four approaches have signals at all four corners.

Coming in here for a third vote. I think it's lovely. I would much prefer this to be the "base" installation according to FHWA standards, with overhead signals being supplementary. I just find them more useful when trying to see around vehicles.
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Yeah, I like this one. I'd prefer FYAs though to the doghouse.
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STLmapboy

#3267
Quote from: Amtrakprod on September 01, 2020, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 01, 2020, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on September 01, 2020, 03:47:19 PM

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 31, 2020, 02:23:06 PM
Ohio near-airport install. Notice how they're all ground mounted.

Am I the only one who actually really digs this install? Something about it just looks really good.

Not at all.  I love it too.  All four approaches have signals at all four corners.
Yeah, I like this one. I'd prefer FYAs though to the doghouse.

OH isn't big on FYAs, even on newer installs.
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ErmineNotyours

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 24, 2020, 10:31:56 PM
What are the longest poles you've seen with just one overhead signal? This image from Mitchell SD.

Do ramp meter lights count?

jakeroot

Quote from: STLmapboy on August 24, 2020, 10:31:56 PM
What are the longest poles you've seen with just one overhead signal? This image from Mitchell SD.

There's quite a few in Ellensburg, WA where the "through-minus-one" philosophy employed by the city has resulted in quite a few mast arms with only one signal. Totally fine with me, and I quite like the design here. Just wish there was a third signal on the far left:




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STLmapboy

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Quote from: STLmapboy on September 02, 2020, 07:13:01 PM
Double-red in Maryland?

Interesting!  Looks like they retconned a permitted-only left turn signal in place of a protected/permitted. (Maybe vice versa?) That doghouse (?) thing in the opposite direction looks interesting to me too.
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Quote from: paulthemapguy on September 02, 2020, 07:19:27 PM
Quote from: STLmapboy on September 02, 2020, 07:13:01 PM
Double-red in Maryland?

Interesting!  Looks like they retconned a permitted-only left turn signal in place of a protected/permitted. (Maybe vice versa?) That doghouse (?) thing in the opposite direction looks interesting to me too.
Found a few more double reds.

Regarding the doghouse: Maryland has a lot of these wonky signals. Personally, I'm not a fan.
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STLmapboy

#3274
Going back to the bagged head/tilted sideways comparison (or maybe that was another thread):

Here's NY holding new traffic lights hostage with orange ribbon and very thin bags.

Also NY: What the hell is this?!
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