Traffic signal

[jakeroot]

Also NY: What the hell is this?!

Looks like a bimodal arrow for either an advanced or lagging left turn. Very weird to be so distant from the related signal.

[STLmapboy]

Also NY: What the hell is this?!

Looks like a bimodal arrow for either an advanced or lagging left turn. Very weird to be so distant from the related signal.

Also love how the wire for the lights is literally tied to the aging pole. Stay classy NY.

[SignBridge]

Looks like a local govt. installation, not NYS DOT. The State's installations are usually better quality. 

[STLmapboy]

Looks like a local govt. installation, not NYS DOT. The State's installations are usually better quality.

You're probably right, and NYSDOT does have some decent stuff going on, especially in newer installs. That said, local NY installments can get pretty dicey in a way I haven't quite seen in other states, right down to the inconsistent awfulness that is Tonawanda (referenced multiple times in this thread and others).

[STLmapboy]

Signal for thee but not for me.

[Amtrakprod]

Looks like a local govt. installation, not NYS DOT. The State's installations are usually better quality.

Honestly looks like an after thought. Most local governments in MA would either replace the whole signal or give a leading phasing but not hardware changes.


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[paulthemapguy]

Signal for thee but not for me.

....what sick filth bullshit is this?  One signal head in each direction?  How have the MUTCD gods not smote this entire town?

This might be the worst traffic signal I've ever seen; I'm not even kidding.

[JoePCool14]

Signal for thee but not for me.

....what sick filth bullshit is this?  One signal head in each direction?  How have the MUTCD gods not smote this entire town?

This might be the worst traffic signal I've ever seen; I'm not even kidding.

Honestly though. I have no idea what is going on here. Even the signs don't make any sense. Why is there a No Turn on Red sign on the left side?!

[SignBridge]

Signal for thee but not for me.

....what sick filth bullshit is this?  One signal head in each direction?  How have the MUTCD gods not smote this entire town?

This might be the worst traffic signal I've ever seen; I'm not even kidding.

Back when New York had their own Manual, there was an exception to the rule for minimum two heads in each direction. It said that if the approach had only one traffic lane, then one head was acceptable. Don't know if their State Supplement to the Federal MUTCD still contains that provision or not.

[STLmapboy]

Unrelated (maybe)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7759595,-73.6982198,3a,27.5y,143.45h,87.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saN_BkYCS2iRTbV5dhoXzGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Oh my gosh, they are key lime green!

Louisiana has a lot of very green lights.
On another note; does anyone know of any other intersection with double permissive-only FYAs?

[JoePCool14]

Louisiana has a lot of very green lights.
On another note; does anyone know of any other intersection with double permissive-only FYAs?

That's an oddly specific situation; why would this be desirable? It looks to me like a single left-turn lane with a full FYA would've been more logical here.

[DrSmith]

Louisiana has a lot of very green lights.
On another note; does anyone know of any other intersection with double permissive-only FYAs?

That's an oddly specific situation; why would this be desirable? It looks to me like a single left-turn lane with a full FYA would've been more logical here.

From a different view (and a year or so older), it looks like it is a bi-modal on the bottom. In this image it is a green arrow with the same flashing arrow sign there too  https://goo.gl/maps/sEiFBrGp3zPgv5xZ7

[STLmapboy]

Louisiana has a lot of very green lights.
On another note; does anyone know of any other intersection with double permissive-only FYAs?

That's an oddly specific situation; why would this be desirable? It looks to me like a single left-turn lane with a full FYA would've been more logical here.

From a different view (and a year or so older), it looks like it is a bi-modal on the bottom. In this image it is a green arrow with the same flashing arrow sign there too  https://goo.gl/maps/sEiFBrGp3zPgv5xZ7

You're right. And it's even got a red ball!

[jakeroot]

Unrelated (maybe)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7759595,-73.6982198,3a,27.5y,143.45h,87.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saN_BkYCS2iRTbV5dhoXzGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Oh my gosh, they are key lime green!

Louisiana has a lot of very green lights.
On another note; does anyone know of any other intersection with double permissive-only FYAs?

Holy fuck, there's a ton. I have a 20 page thread going of many examples.

That's a great one. Good find.

EDIT: That's a thread just detailing permissive double lefts, not permissive only. Those are decidedly less common.

[US 89]

Unrelated (maybe)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7759595,-73.6982198,3a,27.5y,143.45h,87.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saN_BkYCS2iRTbV5dhoXzGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Oh my gosh, they are key lime green!

Louisiana has a lot of very green lights.
On another note; does anyone know of any other intersection with double permissive-only FYAs?

Holy fuck, there's a ton. I have a 20 page thread going of many examples.

That's a great one. Good find.

Those aren't permissive-only FYAs, but bimodal arrows - here's a GSV of them in the green phase. Personally I hate bimodals, but I'll save my criticism of them for another time.

[STLmapboy]

Unrelated (maybe)

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7759595,-73.6982198,3a,27.5y,143.45h,87.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saN_BkYCS2iRTbV5dhoXzGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Oh my gosh, they are key lime green!

Louisiana has a lot of very green lights.
On another note; does anyone know of any other intersection with double permissive-only FYAs?

Holy fuck, there's a ton. I have a 20 page thread going of many examples.

That's a great one. Good find.

Those aren't permissive-only FYAs, but bimodal arrows - here's a GSV of them in the green phase. Personally I hate bimodals, but I'll save my criticism of them for another time.

There looked to be more bimodals around Lafayette. I don't like them either; they're deceptive. I'm looking at lies.

Unrelated but still in the land of green signals; that's a lot of right turn on red.

[jakeroot]

Those aren't permissive-only FYAs, but bimodal arrows - here's a GSV of them in the green phase. Personally I hate bimodals, but I'll save my criticism of them for another time.

There looked to be more bimodals around Lafayette. I don't like them either; they're deceptive. I'm looking at lies.

Definitely don't come to Washington State. There's quite a lot of bimodal FYAs. Some cities, like Lakewood, use them exclusively. Although most use a flashing yellow arrow in the middle.

[Amtrakprod]

what's wrong here: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4143618,-71.2031974,3a,75y,163.43h,80.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s26IvdztrrRLPn6Ah9tdLJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[STLmapboy]

what's wrong here: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4143618,-71.2031974,3a,75y,163.43h,80.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s26IvdztrrRLPn6Ah9tdLJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looks like a decent pedestrian crossing. A bit shaded by trees and the like but still functional.

[jakeroot]

what's wrong here: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4143618,-71.2031974,3a,75y,163.43h,80.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s26IvdztrrRLPn6Ah9tdLJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Seems like the signals themselves are warning enough?

[STLmapboy]

Anybody ever seen anything like this?
Looks extremely redundant to me.

[JoePCool14]

what's wrong here: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4143618,-71.2031974,3a,75y,163.43h,80.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s26IvdztrrRLPn6Ah9tdLJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looks to me like that signal is only Red-Yellow-Yellow despite the Signal Ahead sign right in front of it.

[Amtrakprod]

what's wrong here: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4143618,-71.2031974,3a,75y,163.43h,80.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s26IvdztrrRLPn6Ah9tdLJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looks to me like that signal is only Red-Yellow-Yellow despite the Signal Ahead sign right in front of it.

1/2

There is no stop line!

[fwydriver405]

Anybody ever seen anything like this?
Looks extremely redundant to me.

This signal, leftmost 4-section, approching the Casco Bay Bridge in Portland ME is very similar to what you posted... only inverted.

The closest thing that resembles what you posted is this signal in Dover NH. This has since been replaced with a new configuration which includes FYA's.

[fwydriver405]

what's wrong here: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4143618,-71.2031974,3a,75y,163.43h,80.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s26IvdztrrRLPn6Ah9tdLJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Looks to me like that signal is only Red-Yellow-Yellow despite the Signal Ahead sign right in front of it.

1/2

There is no stop line!

Is this signal operating in flash mode? I only ask because in setups like this, the lower yellow usually flashes in resting mode until a pedestrian presses the button, then it goes solid yellow (middle), than solid red (upper). Also, the ped signal is also completly dark unless the bulbs are burnt out, which usually rest on "DON'T WALK".