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Started by Tom89t, January 14, 2012, 01:01:45 AM

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jakeroot

Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 08, 2019, 07:30:05 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8935182,-77.0121945,3a,15y,123.71h,97.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_4gbBJtMzB73KYx-r-zJtQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
WHY DC, JUST WHY!!!! :pan:

If it's the mismatched signal visor, that's oddly common in some parts of the country. I don't see it very much in Seattle, although I can think of a few examples.

That said, I'm not sure I've seen a mismatched visor on a 3M signal.


traffic light guy

Apparently, Philly had a Marbelite doghouse. I belive the image was taken in 1986. I found it on a SEPTA website. The signal itself was installed in the mid-70's. Guess Doghouses were more common back then than I think. I have an odd fascination with old Doghouses.

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jakeroot

Quote from: CJResotko on March 09, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
This is an extremely rare sight to see in Michigan anymore: https://goo.gl/maps/W2TtQcjYDmC2

That's great signal placement, right there.

Though I must ask: what's the rare sight?

Amtrakprod

Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2019, 03:36:55 AM
Quote from: CJResotko on March 09, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
This is an extremely rare sight to see in Michigan anymore: https://goo.gl/maps/W2TtQcjYDmC2

That's great signal placement, right there.

Though I must ask: what's the rare sight?
Yes, I'm confused as well


iPhone
Roadgeek, railfan, and crossing signal fan. From Massachusetts, and in high school. Youtube is my website link. Loves FYAs signals. Interest in Bicycle Infrastructure. Owns one Leotech Pedestrian Signal, and a Safetran Type 1 E bell.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 10, 2019, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2019, 03:36:55 AM
Quote from: CJResotko on March 09, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
This is an extremely rare sight to see in Michigan anymore: https://goo.gl/maps/W2TtQcjYDmC2

That's great signal placement, right there.

Though I must ask: what's the rare sight?
Yes, I'm confused as well


iPhone

If I were to guess, there's 2 possible reasons: At least one direction only has a single traffic light to look at; not a minimum of 2. Or, a signalized intersection with a lot more traffic lights is just 2 car lengths away, behind the GSV camera. I could understand motorists being confused at what lights they should be looking at approaching these intersections, especially if the lights aren't coordinated.
https://goo.gl/maps/phJ7Euveyis

CJResotko

An extremely rare and old traffic signal setup in Detroit, Michigan. (Marbelites and Eagle Durasigs): https://www.google.com/maps/@42.3661447,-83.0805183,3a,44.2y,62.22h,88.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYBRBnlKvYgWLan6ALsQQcg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Sorry for any confusion

jakeroot

Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2019, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 10, 2019, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2019, 03:36:55 AM
Quote from: CJResotko on March 09, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
This is an extremely rare sight to see in Michigan anymore: https://goo.gl/maps/W2TtQcjYDmC2

That's great signal placement, right there.

Though I must ask: what's the rare sight?
Yes, I'm confused as well

If I were to guess, there's 2 possible reasons: At least one direction only has a single traffic light to look at; not a minimum of 2. Or, a signalized intersection with a lot more traffic lights is just 2 car lengths away, behind the GSV camera. I could understand motorists being confused at what lights they should be looking at approaching these intersections, especially if the lights aren't coordinated.
https://goo.gl/maps/phJ7Euveyis

I would have thought that approach was coordinated for both to end at the same time, allowing the two farther signals to act as a second and third signal head for that first stop line. But as we can see from your GSV link (and this one from further down the road), that approach is coordinated to end at different times which does make for an annoying single-display approach.

Though I can see now ^^^^ that it was actually the signals themselves, not their placement.

CJResotko

Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2019, 03:22:52 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 10, 2019, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 10, 2019, 08:22:27 AM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 10, 2019, 03:36:55 AM
Quote from: CJResotko on March 09, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
This is an extremely rare sight to see in Michigan anymore: https://goo.gl/maps/W2TtQcjYDmC2

That's great signal placement, right there.

Though I must ask: what's the rare sight?
Yes, I'm confused as well

If I were to guess, there's 2 possible reasons: At least one direction only has a single traffic light to look at; not a minimum of 2. Or, a signalized intersection with a lot more traffic lights is just 2 car lengths away, behind the GSV camera. I could understand motorists being confused at what lights they should be looking at approaching these intersections, especially if the lights aren't coordinated.
https://goo.gl/maps/phJ7Euveyis

I would have thought that approach was coordinated for both to end at the same time, allowing the two farther signals to act as a second and third signal head for that first stop line. But as we can see from your GSV link (and this one from further down the road), that approach is coordinated to end at different times which does make for an annoying single-display approach.

Though I can see now ^^^^ that it was actually the signals themselves, not their placement.
Yeah, sorry about the confusion, I just wasn't really awake at the time XD

Amtrakprod

Roadgeek, railfan, and crossing signal fan. From Massachusetts, and in high school. Youtube is my website link. Loves FYAs signals. Interest in Bicycle Infrastructure. Owns one Leotech Pedestrian Signal, and a Safetran Type 1 E bell.

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Amtrakprod

Roadgeek, railfan, and crossing signal fan. From Massachusetts, and in high school. Youtube is my website link. Loves FYAs signals. Interest in Bicycle Infrastructure. Owns one Leotech Pedestrian Signal, and a Safetran Type 1 E bell.

index

Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 15, 2019, 07:49:40 PM
Look at this Winter Park FL classic signals: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5978565,-81.3509918,3a,79.5y,224.37h,100.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHOvcG51yKojN7kPEJNhR1g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


Seeing old signals retrofitted like that for modern use to preserve the historic character of an area's also done in other places. There's a city in Mississippi that has a bunch of them but I can't remember exactly what it is.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: index on March 16, 2019, 05:17:50 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 15, 2019, 07:49:40 PM
Look at this Winter Park FL classic signals: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5978565,-81.3509918,3a,79.5y,224.37h,100.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHOvcG51yKojN7kPEJNhR1g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


Seeing old signals retrofitted like that for modern use to preserve the historic character of an area's also done in other places. There's a city in Mississippi that has a bunch of them but I can't remember exactly what it is.

That looks more like a modern signal painted black with cutaway visors to fit into the vision of the area.

But...it's also 2019. Where's the 2nd signal per direction??

MNHighwayMan

Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 16, 2019, 07:38:59 AM
But...it's also 2019. Where's the 2nd signal per direction??

On the other corner–move away from the intersection and you'll easily see it. I didn't notice it at first either.

Amtrakprod

Quote from: index on March 16, 2019, 05:17:50 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 15, 2019, 07:49:40 PM
Look at this Winter Park FL classic signals: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5978565,-81.3509918,3a,79.5y,224.37h,100.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHOvcG51yKojN7kPEJNhR1g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


Seeing old signals retrofitted like that for modern use to preserve the historic character of an area's also done in other places. There's a city in Mississippi that has a bunch of them but I can't remember exactly what it is.
I believe that's Greenwood?


iPhone
Roadgeek, railfan, and crossing signal fan. From Massachusetts, and in high school. Youtube is my website link. Loves FYAs signals. Interest in Bicycle Infrastructure. Owns one Leotech Pedestrian Signal, and a Safetran Type 1 E bell.

Amtrakprod

Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 16, 2019, 07:38:59 AM
Quote from: index on March 16, 2019, 05:17:50 AM
Quote from: Amtrakprod on March 15, 2019, 07:49:40 PM
Look at this Winter Park FL classic signals: https://www.google.com/maps/@28.5978565,-81.3509918,3a,79.5y,224.37h,100.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHOvcG51yKojN7kPEJNhR1g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192


Seeing old signals retrofitted like that for modern use to preserve the historic character of an area's also done in other places. There's a city in Mississippi that has a bunch of them but I can't remember exactly what it is.

That looks more like a modern signal painted black with cutaway visors to fit into the vision of the area.

But...it's also 2019. Where's the 2nd signal per direction??
There is a second signal. Btw I'm most interested in the pedestrian signals having green walk and orange wait in words


iPhone
Roadgeek, railfan, and crossing signal fan. From Massachusetts, and in high school. Youtube is my website link. Loves FYAs signals. Interest in Bicycle Infrastructure. Owns one Leotech Pedestrian Signal, and a Safetran Type 1 E bell.

jakeroot

I've seen those Winter Park ped signals before. If they were symbols, I'd absolutely love them. But I only "really like" them for the time being. Still very cool and very "Vienna". Particularly that they're round and not square.

Not sure which engineer was responsible for them, but props for sticking it to the MUTCD and doing something unique.

riiga

Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2019, 02:59:22 PM
I've seen those Winter Park ped signals before. If they were symbols, I'd absolutely love them. But I only "really like" them for the time being. Still very cool and very "Vienna". Particularly that they're round and not square.

Not sure which engineer was responsible for them, but props for sticking it to the MUTCD and doing something unique.
I second this! Plus the blue (round) parking signs pointing to the parking.

jakeroot

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Quote from: riiga on March 16, 2019, 03:12:10 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2019, 02:59:22 PM
I've seen those Winter Park ped signals before. If they were symbols, I'd absolutely love them. But I only "really like" them for the time being. Still very cool and very "Vienna". Particularly that they're round and not square.

Not sure which engineer was responsible for them, but props for sticking it to the MUTCD and doing something unique.
I second this! Plus the blue (round) parking signs pointing to the parking.

Oddly, those round blue parking signs are actually standard design. Not sure how they ended up as blue. Note these in my area: http://bit.ly/2HoJBmY

The only other round, blue signs are evacuation signs: http://bit.ly/2W5JNuB

EDIT: also sometimes seen on pedestrian paths for "keep right" or "keep left" signs. Probably pulled from Europe alongside the rest of the design of the path:


CJResotko

Peek/TCT and McCain traffic signals - Leslie, Michigan: https://goo.gl/maps/WQkonqtmS1p

Peek/TCT is an extremely rare brand to see in Michigan. There used to be 2 4-way clusters in the town of Elsie, but the intersection was downgraded to a four-way stop.

jakeroot

^^
Peek/TCT is considered, alongside whoever makes those bubbleback signals, and McCain's, to be the most modern of traffic lights here in the PNW.

Unfortunately, it has been several years since I've seen a Peek/TCT installed, though a ton were installed from about 2007-2013.

CJResotko

Quote from: jakeroot on March 16, 2019, 08:13:45 PM
^^
Peek/TCT is considered, alongside whoever makes those bubbleback signals, and McCain's, to be the most modern of traffic lights here in the PNW.

Unfortunately, it has been several years since I've seen a Peek/TCT installed, though a ton were installed from about 2007-2013.
The "bubbleback"  signals are made by Siemens

Bruce

A collection of old signals and signs from the Seattle Municipal Archives. Taken in 1931.


Traffic control devices, 1931 by Seattle Municipal Archives, on Flickr
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jakeroot

I love the basic advice..."this signal was installed after a study"..."the gap after green is for traffic to clear"... Things that you'd never see on a sign now.

CJResotko




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