2014 Rand McNally Road Atlas

[bugo]

I remember back in the day when we didn't have these QR or Microsoft box codes things in our atlases. I come for the maps.

Touché. And the atlases are no better with them than they were without them.

A scan from my 1991 RMcN for fun, two bases back (three if you count the GIS redo of everything in 2011 that brought back I-170 and added I-278E, I-95E/I-95W, etc.).

What was the first year that this style was used?  I've seen it on a 1982 atlas but I haven't seen any older ones that use it.

[kphoger]

I'm curious to see if they show any more of US-60 across Missouri as four lanes now.  I believe there are no two-lane sections left from Springfield to I-57.  What's shown on the map?

[Alex]

What was the first year that this style was used?  I've seen it on a 1982 atlas but I haven't seen any older ones that use it.

Rand switched bases for the 1980 edition. The base before that ran from the 1960 edition to 1979. The tri-color Interstate shields appeared in 1993 when bases switched again.

[bugo]

What was the first year that this style was used?  I've seen it on a 1982 atlas but I haven't seen any older ones that use it.

Rand switched bases for the 1980 edition. The base before that ran from the 1960 edition to 1979. The tri-color Interstate shields appeared in 1993 when bases switched again.

Thanks.  I need to get a 1980 version, and eventually 81,82, and an 83 in better condition than mine.  Anyone got one for sale?

[hbelkins]

I'm curious to see if they show any more of US-60 across Missouri as four lanes now.  I believe there are no two-lane sections left from Springfield to I-57.  What's shown on the map?

It's shown as four lanes in the 2013 edition. I drove it from the Illinois state line to US 71 in 2001, and most of it between US 67 and US 63 was two lanes then.

[sr641]

Found the 2013 midsie atlas in terre haute. I couldn't find the standard size atlas.

[bugo]

The atlas shows US 371 duplexed with AR 24 and US 63 duplexed with AR 15, both which have been gone for over 10 years.

[ShawnP]

Got mine in the Louisville area today.

I-69 Under Construction all the way to Crane.

US-31 Under Construction south of South Bend.

Still missing I-49 north in Louisiana.

Nice to see I-49 from KC to Joplin (cept the Watkins bleeping lights).

[bugo]

What was the first year that this style was used?  I've seen it on a 1982 atlas but I haven't seen any older ones that use it.

Rand switched bases for the 1980 edition. The base before that ran from the 1960 edition to 1979. The tri-color Interstate shields appeared in 1993 when bases switched again.

Did the pre 1960 atlases use the same base as the '49 atlas that I have?

[okc1]

I found and bought one at my local Walmart this morning, and after looking through it off-and-on the only current theme I can come up with for Rand is "pick and choose". Some states (like Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri) seem to have updates (whether they be correct or incorrect at the current time) while others do not. Off the top of my head, Alabama now shows the rerouting of U.S. 80 onto I-85 east of Montgomery and future I-22 is now shown as complete to Exit 93. Florida, on the other hand, looks virtually unchanged since the three 2012 versions. I-295 is still not shown along the eastern portion of the Jacksonville beltway, three new interchanges along FL 417 in southeast Orlando are still not shown (and they have all been open for quite some time now). It would also seem that they did take Quebec into some consideration this year in their updates and now show A-25 as being complete, more portions of A-30 and A-50 as being complete, and the next sections of A-410 under construction near Sherbrooke.

I assume that like the other mapping company (that unfortunately still continues to exist, and I am not referring to AAA), they are only allowed a limited number of changes/updates per year so that is why we continue to see only some updates but not all. It is probably also why we continue to see the same errors/omissions (such as I-170 in the downtown Baltimore inset, BR I-194 in the Bismark inset, or the omission of SR 641 in Indiana) year after year, as they probably do not have enough employees to thoroughly cover the atlas. My guess is these errors/omissions/etc. will never be updated unless they were to be given lots of feedback from persons such as ourselves (which I know some have done in the past, myself included), and even then I bet we wouldn't see everything updated and/or corrected as we know it should be. 

Has anyone tried the "tellrand" feature for corrections?  What kind of merchandise discount did you get?

I suspect that they wait for AASHTO approval for some updates.  New US 219 south of Springville NY and US 287 around Boise City OK are not shown as completed, but are awaiting AASHTO approval.

[kphoger]

I found and bought one at my local Walmart this morning, and after looking through it off-and-on the only current theme I can come up with for Rand is "pick and choose". Some states (like Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri) seem to have updates (whether they be correct or incorrect at the current time) while others do not. Off the top of my head, Alabama now shows the rerouting of U.S. 80 onto I-85 east of Montgomery and future I-22 is now shown as complete to Exit 93. Florida, on the other hand, looks virtually unchanged since the three 2012 versions. I-295 is still not shown along the eastern portion of the Jacksonville beltway, three new interchanges along FL 417 in southeast Orlando are still not shown (and they have all been open for quite some time now). It would also seem that they did take Quebec into some consideration this year in their updates and now show A-25 as being complete, more portions of A-30 and A-50 as being complete, and the next sections of A-410 under construction near Sherbrooke.

I assume that like the other mapping company (that unfortunately still continues to exist, and I am not referring to AAA), they are only allowed a limited number of changes/updates per year so that is why we continue to see only some updates but not all. It is probably also why we continue to see the same errors/omissions (such as I-170 in the downtown Baltimore inset, BR I-194 in the Bismark inset, or the omission of SR 641 in Indiana) year after year, as they probably do not have enough employees to thoroughly cover the atlas. My guess is these errors/omissions/etc. will never be updated unless they were to be given lots of feedback from persons such as ourselves (which I know some have done in the past, myself included), and even then I bet we wouldn't see everything updated and/or corrected as we know it should be. 

Has anyone tried the "tellrand" feature for corrections?  What kind of merchandise discount did you get?

I suspect that they wait for AASHTO approval for some updates.  New US 219 south of Springville NY and US 287 around Boise City OK are not shown as completed, but are awaiting AASHTO approval.

I've sent corrections for three items in years past.  Only one has been corrected (US-65 is no longer shown as a full freeway all the way from Springfield to Branson, MO); the other two errors still stand.  One of them (the state of Chihuahua being in the wrong time zone for more than a decade) I've sent two or three times with no correction.

[bugo]

I found and bought one at my local Walmart this morning, and after looking through it off-and-on the only current theme I can come up with for Rand is "pick and choose". Some states (like Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri) seem to have updates (whether they be correct or incorrect at the current time) while others do not. Off the top of my head, Alabama now shows the rerouting of U.S. 80 onto I-85 east of Montgomery and future I-22 is now shown as complete to Exit 93. Florida, on the other hand, looks virtually unchanged since the three 2012 versions. I-295 is still not shown along the eastern portion of the Jacksonville beltway, three new interchanges along FL 417 in southeast Orlando are still not shown (and they have all been open for quite some time now). It would also seem that they did take Quebec into some consideration this year in their updates and now show A-25 as being complete, more portions of A-30 and A-50 as being complete, and the next sections of A-410 under construction near Sherbrooke.

I assume that like the other mapping company (that unfortunately still continues to exist, and I am not referring to AAA), they are only allowed a limited number of changes/updates per year so that is why we continue to see only some updates but not all. It is probably also why we continue to see the same errors/omissions (such as I-170 in the downtown Baltimore inset, BR I-194 in the Bismark inset, or the omission of SR 641 in Indiana) year after year, as they probably do not have enough employees to thoroughly cover the atlas. My guess is these errors/omissions/etc. will never be updated unless they were to be given lots of feedback from persons such as ourselves (which I know some have done in the past, myself included), and even then I bet we wouldn't see everything updated and/or corrected as we know it should be. 

Has anyone tried the "tellrand" feature for corrections?  What kind of merchandise discount did you get?

I suspect that they wait for AASHTO approval for some updates.  New US 219 south of Springville NY and US 287 around Boise City OK are not shown as completed, but are awaiting AASHTO approval.

The Duncan bypass is shown even though it's not a marked state highway. 

Did ODOT ever submit the Poteau Bypass to AASHTO?

And US 377 is marked on the RMN maps even though it was never approved by AASHTO.

[Scott5114]

The Duncan Bypass is a state highway, though, it simply has no numerical designation. There are green signs reading "Duncan Bypass" though.

[lamsalfl]

Are there really a lot of issues with Google Maps?  I've never really come across anything that I know of.  In fact, I usually find they are up to speed almost immediately with new roads, new signings, etc.

ROFL!

Errors from 2.5 years ago.  Cool!

[bugo]

The Duncan and Poteau bypasses are officially SH 00.

[sr641]

The Duncan and Poteau bypasses are officially SH 00.

The pennyrile parkway in Kentucky is officially State Route 9004.

[Alps]

The Duncan and Poteau bypasses are officially SH 00.

OMG lol you could say they have THREE bypasses lol

[sr641]

The Duncan and Poteau bypasses are officially SH 00.

OMG lol you could say they have THREE bypasses lol

Loisville has 3 bypasses. Just ask NE2.

[Brian556]

I wonder if there'd be a market for a "roadgeek's atlas" of sorts... something with a reputation for being accurate and up-to-date as of the year printed on the front cover. Surely it can't be that hard to maintain a standard of quality in an atlas, especially if all the folks working on it had a passion for keeping this sort of thing straight...

I've had this idea for a while. Publish one version for public consumtion, showing only signed designations.
Publish a roadgeek edition, showing hidden designations and all historical former desigations.

I am currently working on hand-drawn "Highway History Maps" of my area.

[NE2]

Loisville is across the Ohio from Metropolis.

[kphoger]

Loisville is across the Ohio from Metropolis.

Dude, that's awesome! 

[kphoger]

And Olivia is across the Mississippi from Chester!

[sr641]

And Olivia is across the Mississippi from Chester!

And Vincennes is across the river from Illinois.

[kphoger]

And Olivia is across the Mississippi from Chester!

And Vincennes is across the river from Illinois.

[adt1982]

And Olivia is across the Mississippi from Chester!

And Vincennes is across the river from Illinois.

Kinda makes you want to cry, doesn't it?