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Plan for US 42 Lane Reductions in Louisville gets trashed publicly

Started by tidecat, May 31, 2012, 10:32:23 PM

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tidecat

A group called "Save42.org" ran an editorial on WAVE 3 Television tonight blasting Louisville Metro Councilwoman Tina Ward-Pugh's plan to reduce part of Brownsboro Road from 4 lanes to 2 lanes:

http://www.wave3.com/category/22970/hot-button-editorials

It will be interesting to see if this costs Tina Ward-Pugh her job in the next election (2014), as this plan has upset a lot of residents.


hbelkins

Something similar was done to US 127 in Harrodsburg. That road used to be four lanes with no turning lanes. A car turning left would jam up the left lane. Now it's a two-lane road with a two-way center left turn lane, and traffic seems to flow a lot better. They call this a "road diet" and I think the people there would like it if they knew how well it worked elsewhere.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

codyg1985

Huntsville, AL has been doing the road diet with some of its streets. Often a road with a five-lane cross section gets reduced to a three-lane cross section with bike lanes in either direction. Or, a three-lane cross section gets reduced to two lanes with bike lanes in either direction. We don't have many roads with four lanes and no center turn lane.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
Something similar was done to US 127 in Harrodsburg. That road used to be four lanes with no turning lanes. A car turning left would jam up the left lane. Now it's a two-lane road with a two-way center left turn lane, and traffic seems to flow a lot better. They call this a "road diet" and I think the people there would like it if they knew how well it worked elsewhere.

US 30 has a similar setup in Lancaster Co. Pa.  I wasn't necessarily with that setup.
Please, don't sue Alex & Andy over what I wrote above

Alps

Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 01, 2012, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
Something similar was done to US 127 in Harrodsburg. That road used to be four lanes with no turning lanes. A car turning left would jam up the left lane. Now it's a two-lane road with a two-way center left turn lane, and traffic seems to flow a lot better. They call this a "road diet" and I think the people there would like it if they knew how well it worked elsewhere.

US 30 has a similar setup in Lancaster Co. Pa.  I wasn't necessarily with that setup.
Most of 30 seems too narrow to have ever been four lanes. I'd rather see two with passing than the three they have now. But really, unless you need to clinch US 30, there are good alternate, parallel routes that will save you 15-30 minutes.

mgk920

WisDOT did that with WI 96 between Appleton and Little Chute a few years ago - they reduced the former four lanes to two with a shared center left-turn lane.  Traffic was, and still is, lighter than what warrants four lanes and there are numerous primarily residential driveways lining it.  This was done when the old concrete four lanes was asphalt overlaid.  They also striped a bicycle lane onto each side.

Mike

JREwing78

I could see the merits of this "road diet" closer to downtown, assuming that the plan is to provide a center turn lane and have provisions for bus stops out of the travel lane. Farther away, though, towards 264, it appears to be busy enough to warrant all the driving lanes it has now.

Janesville, WI has several sections of 4-lane without a center turn lane. Some are lightly trafficked and could stand a diet. Others (Milton Ave - WI-26) need 4 driving lanes and a center turn lane quite badly.

Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: Steve on June 02, 2012, 04:14:12 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 01, 2012, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
Something similar was done to US 127 in Harrodsburg. That road used to be four lanes with no turning lanes. A car turning left would jam up the left lane. Now it's a two-lane road with a two-way center left turn lane, and traffic seems to flow a lot better. They call this a "road diet" and I think the people there would like it if they knew how well it worked elsewhere.

US 30 has a similar setup in Lancaster Co. Pa.  I wasn't necessarily with that setup.
Most of 30 seems too narrow to have ever been four lanes. I'd rather see two with passing than the three they have now. But really, unless you need to clinch US 30, there are good alternate, parallel routes that will save you 15-30 minutes.
I count 4 here. How many do you see?
Please, don't sue Alex & Andy over what I wrote above

mgk920

Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 02, 2012, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: Steve on June 02, 2012, 04:14:12 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 01, 2012, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
Something similar was done to US 127 in Harrodsburg. That road used to be four lanes with no turning lanes. A car turning left would jam up the left lane. Now it's a two-lane road with a two-way center left turn lane, and traffic seems to flow a lot better. They call this a "road diet" and I think the people there would like it if they knew how well it worked elsewhere.

US 30 has a similar setup in Lancaster Co. Pa.  I wasn't necessarily with that setup.
Most of 30 seems too narrow to have ever been four lanes. I'd rather see two with passing than the three they have now. But really, unless you need to clinch US 30, there are good alternate, parallel routes that will save you 15-30 minutes.
I count 4 here. How many do you see?


Yikes!  Are those 'special' lanes for the party bigshots, like they did on Moscow (as in Russia) city streets during the Commie days?

  :wow:

Mike

ShawnP


Alps

Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 02, 2012, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: Steve on June 02, 2012, 04:14:12 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 01, 2012, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
Something similar was done to US 127 in Harrodsburg. That road used to be four lanes with no turning lanes. A car turning left would jam up the left lane. Now it's a two-lane road with a two-way center left turn lane, and traffic seems to flow a lot better. They call this a "road diet" and I think the people there would like it if they knew how well it worked elsewhere.

US 30 has a similar setup in Lancaster Co. Pa.  I wasn't necessarily with that setup.
Most of 30 seems too narrow to have ever been four lanes. I'd rather see two with passing than the three they have now. But really, unless you need to clinch US 30, there are good alternate, parallel routes that will save you 15-30 minutes.
I count 4 here. How many do you see?

I see two one-way left-turn lanes. But I'm biased, having traveled there and all.

Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: Steve on June 05, 2012, 11:25:32 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 02, 2012, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: Steve on June 02, 2012, 04:14:12 AM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 01, 2012, 11:42:23 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on May 31, 2012, 11:21:58 PM
Something similar was done to US 127 in Harrodsburg. That road used to be four lanes with no turning lanes. A car turning left would jam up the left lane. Now it's a two-lane road with a two-way center left turn lane, and traffic seems to flow a lot better. They call this a "road diet" and I think the people there would like it if they knew how well it worked elsewhere.

US 30 has a similar setup in Lancaster Co. Pa.  I wasn't necessarily with that setup.
Most of 30 seems too narrow to have ever been four lanes. I'd rather see two with passing than the three they have now. But really, unless you need to clinch US 30, there are good alternate, parallel routes that will save you 15-30 minutes.
I count 4 here. How many do you see?

I see two one-way left-turn lanes. But I'm biased, having traveled there and all.
So what about the outer lanes, since I've traveled there and all as well.
Please, don't sue Alex & Andy over what I wrote above