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Started by bulkyorled, August 03, 2012, 07:51:34 AM

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doorknob60

This is more of a confusion issue than anything, but it's relevant. In Bend, before they built the Parkway, US 97 was 3rd St. Now, even after the Parkway was built (which is now US 97, and 3rd is Business 97), people that have lived in Bend for a long time still commonly refer to 3rd St as simply "97", which confuses the large group of people that recently moved here. To make it worse, the addresses of many businesses along 3rd are still 1234 S Highway 97 or whatever, even though it's not 97. What bugs me most is when there is a commercial for a business saying something like "We're located on Empire between the Parkway and 97". Except that statement makes no sense, because the Parkway is 97. Oh well, I shouldn't complain, I'm sure this is quite common when bypass highways are built :P


bulkyorled

Quote from: Bigmikelakers on August 04, 2012, 04:33:35 AM
I can name a few in the LA area.

Long Beach/Hawaiian Gardens: Woodson St/226th St

Manhattan Beach/Redondo Beach: 2nd St/Robinson St

Hermosa Beach/Manhattan Beach: 33rd St/Homer St

Redondo Beach/Hermosa Beach: Havemeyer Ln/7th Pl

La Palma/Cerritos: Caballero Bl/183rd St

Cerritos/La Palma: Del Amo Bl/La Palma Av

Cerritos/La Palma: Carmenita Rd/Moody St

Cerritos/La Palma: Marquardt Av/Walker St

Carson/Harbor Gateway (Los Angeles): Victoria St/190th St

Rancho Palos Verdes/San Pedro (Los Angeles): Miraleste Dr/9th St

Carson/Long Beach: 223rd St/Wardlow Rd

Calabasa/Woodland Hills (Los Angeles): Calabasas Rd/Ave San Luis

I'll post more if I find any

I could be wrong but I dont think Calabasas Road is only on one side. Calabasas Rd is signed in Woodland Hills for a quick tick. At Valley Circle it turns into Ave San Luis.
But the rest seem like Cerritos & La Palma dont get along!
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Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on August 03, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
East of St. Paul, there is a road that is Century Avenue on the Ramsey County side and Geneva Avenue on the Washington County side. North of I-94 it's still MN-120 but south of I-94 the state turned back the road, and it is posted with county highway numbers from both counties. I don't know if it's so posted in the same segment or if the segments alternate.

It's also called Division & East County Line, it has 5 names :P

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MA 1A in Lynn:  Broad/Lewis St. at Atlantic/Chestnut St. intersection.

MA 107 in Salem: Essex St./Highland Ave. at Jackson St. intersection.

MA 114 in Salem: Summer/North St. at Essex St. intersection.

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roadman65

Quote from: bulkyorled on September 16, 2012, 09:43:47 AM
Quote from: Bigmikelakers on August 04, 2012, 04:33:35 AM
I can name a few in the LA area.

Long Beach/Hawaiian Gardens: Woodson St/226th St

Manhattan Beach/Redondo Beach: 2nd St/Robinson St

Hermosa Beach/Manhattan Beach: 33rd St/Homer St

Redondo Beach/Hermosa Beach: Havemeyer Ln/7th Pl

La Palma/Cerritos: Caballero Bl/183rd St

Cerritos/La Palma: Del Amo Bl/La Palma Av

Cerritos/La Palma: Carmenita Rd/Moody St

Cerritos/La Palma: Marquardt Av/Walker St

Carson/Harbor Gateway (Los Angeles): Victoria St/190th St

Rancho Palos Verdes/San Pedro (Los Angeles): Miraleste Dr/9th St

Carson/Long Beach: 223rd St/Wardlow Rd

Calabasa/Woodland Hills (Los Angeles): Calabasas Rd/Ave San Luis

I'll post more if I find any

I could be wrong but I dont think Calabasas Road is only on one side. Calabasas Rd is signed in Woodland Hills for a quick tick. At Valley Circle it turns into Ave San Luis.
But the rest seem like Cerritos & La Palma dont get along!
I believe Imperial Highway at the 405 near LAX has an alternate name: Sunyvale Avenue.  Anyway, at least that is what google maps show.
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Google Maps also shows "KY-9001 E/Hwy 9001 E/Rte 9001 E/State 9001 E/State Hwy 9001 E/State Route 9001 E/Wendell H. Ford Western Kentucky Pkwy". They must be alternate names. Reality doesn't trump the Goog.
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Quote from: NE2 on October 13, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
Google Maps also shows "KY-9001 E/Hwy 9001 E/Rte 9001 E/State 9001 E/State Hwy 9001 E/State Route 9001 E/Wendell H. Ford Western Kentucky Pkwy". They must be alternate names. Reality doesn't trump the Goog.
Like Steve says, you cannot trust googlemaps as a reliable source.  I have seen other maps make mistakes too, like I-69 being U. C in Indiana where it has not even been started yet.  Or once where CO 40 east of Denver is marked US 40 on one map, which maybe true.  Just because the State of Colorado does not want (or consider)US 40 to exist between Denver and Limone does not mean that FHWA does.  There have been other cases, like TX really wants US 77 to not exist between Waco and the Oklahoma Border, but because it exists in OK, KS, NE, and a short distance in IA, it cannot be officially decommissioned between those two points.   Last I heard, US 77 is continuous and not in two segments.   
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swbrotha100

AZ 87 runs through various cities in the east valley of Phoenix. In Chandler and Gilbert, it is Arizona Avenue. In Mesa it's called Country Club Drive. There's a 1.5 mile stretch where it forms the border between Mesa and Chandler, then Mesa and Gilbert.

nyratk1

NY 25/Jericho Tpke. along the Nassau County/NYC border used to be Jamaica Avenue on the south/Queens side and Jericho on the Nassau side. NYC was pressured into switching the south side into Jericho Tpke. in 2005-06 by local businesses.

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Laura

Quote from: kj3400 on August 06, 2012, 03:22:21 PM
I was wondering when this would pop up.

In Baltimore County, just west of Southwest Blvd (US 1) in Halethorpe, there is a road that is Oregon Av. NB and Carville Av. SB.

In Halethorpe? haha, this is an example of a town having 2 names. Locally, I've always heard it referred to as Arbutus.

MD 129 goes through a weird bunch of name changes, including a section with 2 names, near Druid Hill Park in Baltimore City. When 129 breaks off from Reisterstown Road, the south side of the street becomes Auchentoroly Terrace and the north side becomes Swan Drive. Then, the Auchentoroly name breaks off onto a side street, the Swan Drive name gets dropped, and both sides become McCulloh Street. Then, the south side picks up the name Druid Hill Avenue before the sides divide into two distinctly different streets.

I need to look at an old map of the area to see why the Auchentoroly/Swan and Druid Hill/McCulloh two-name instances exist. MD 129 is very wide in this area (at least 6 lanes), so I wouldn't be surprised if there used to be land dividing the road that was taken.

kphoger

Are there any examples of a street having a different name in an alternate reality or parallel universe?  :hmmm:

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Coelacanth

Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on August 03, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
it is posted with county highway numbers from both counties. I don't know if it's so posted in the same segment or if the segments alternate.
I was in this area last week. There are two blue pentagon shields (one for each county) mounted side-by-side on the same signpost.

kj3400

Quote from: Laura Bianca on October 16, 2012, 08:24:08 AM
Quote from: kj3400 on August 06, 2012, 03:22:21 PM
I was wondering when this would pop up.

In Baltimore County, just west of Southwest Blvd (US 1) in Halethorpe, there is a road that is Oregon Av. NB and Carville Av. SB.

In Halethorpe? haha, this is an example of a town having 2 names. Locally, I've always heard it referred to as Arbutus.

MD 129 goes through a weird bunch of name changes, including a section with 2 names, near Druid Hill Park in Baltimore City. When 129 breaks off from Reisterstown Road, the south side of the street becomes Auchentoroly Terrace and the north side becomes Swan Drive. Then, the Auchentoroly name breaks off onto a side street, the Swan Drive name gets dropped, and both sides become McCulloh Street. Then, the south side picks up the name Druid Hill Avenue before the sides divide into two distinctly different streets.

I need to look at an old map of the area to see why the Auchentoroly/Swan and Druid Hill/McCulloh two-name instances exist. MD 129 is very wide in this area (at least 6 lanes), so I wouldn't be surprised if there used to be land dividing the road that was taken.

You know I've always wondered about that street. I go down that portion of MD 129 a lot and I never knew whether it was all Swan Dr, McCulloh St, or if I was just going crazy  :-D.
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mapman1071

Quote from: swbrotha100 on October 14, 2012, 04:55:45 PM
AZ 87 runs through various cities in the east valley of Phoenix. In Chandler and Gilbert, it is Arizona Avenue. In Mesa it's called Country Club Drive. There's a 1.5 mile stretch where it forms the border between Mesa and Chandler, then Mesa and Gilbert.

AZ 87 From Baseline Road To Western Canal,  S. Country Club Drive, Mesa (SB)/N Country Club Drive, Gilbert (NB)

South Of the Western Canal, Both Sides of the Street are In Chandler and is N Arizona Avenue

BiggieJohn

West Des Moines, IA and west  along University Ave
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Waukee,+IA&hl=en&ll=41.599864,-93.736682&spn=0.006418,0.01369&sll=30.384982,-97.737336&sspn=0.029469,0.05476&oq=waukee&t=h&hnear=Waukee,+Dallas,+Iowa&z=17

there are several different cities north/south of University Ave, leading to a serious naming disaster.

They have tried twice in the last 10 years to change some names, renumber, add NW/NE/SW/Se directions etc, all of which have only confused the issue even more.

apeman33

This affects part of U.S. 69 in Fort Scott just south of Walmart since one side is inside the city limits but the other is in the county. The city calls it Main Street and it's the 2500 and 2600 blocks going southbound. But to the county, it's the 1000 block of U.S. 69 going northbound. If the city ever annexes the land that a bank sits on just south of Walmart on the west side of the road, it will have to change its address.

kphoger

Quote from: apeman33 on October 28, 2012, 01:38:41 AM
This affects part of U.S. 69 in Fort Scott just south of Walmart since one side is inside the city limits but the other is in the county. The city calls it Main Street and it's the 2500 and 2600 blocks going southbound. But to the county, it's the 1000 block of U.S. 69 going northbound. If the city ever annexes the land that a bank sits on just south of Walmart on the west side of the road, it will have to change its address.

The bank couldn't just keep its current address as an anomaly?  Nobody would know the difference.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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apeman33

Quote from: kphoger on October 28, 2012, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: apeman33 on October 28, 2012, 01:38:41 AM
This affects part of U.S. 69 in Fort Scott just south of Walmart since one side is inside the city limits but the other is in the county. The city calls it Main Street and it's the 2500 and 2600 blocks going southbound. But to the county, it's the 1000 block of U.S. 69 going northbound. If the city ever annexes the land that a bank sits on just south of Walmart on the west side of the road, it will have to change its address.

The bank couldn't just keep its current address as an anomaly?  Nobody would know the difference.

The address confuses people now. Those who live inside the city limits see "1012 U.S. 69" and think it's between 10th and 11th streets, not south of 25th. The bank has to clarify its location in every radio and newspaper ad or else people will try to look for it in the wrong place. 1012 U.S. 69 shouldn't be the next address south of 2500 South Main nor the one across the street from 2507 South Main.



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