AARoads Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

New rules to ensure post quality. See this thread for details.

Author Topic: Illinois notes  (Read 305377 times)

Crash_It

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 404
  • Location: Waukegan IL
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 06:59:52 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2050 on: September 18, 2021, 03:39:22 AM »

There's 'renumbering' threads for US and I's how about IL state highways?
My wish list:

1. Give Randall/Orchard Rd an IL state #.
2. Reinstate IL-32 for the north/south IL-137.
3. Move US-41 off of Foster Av, to replace US-14 easternmost section past Peterson/Lincoln. Truncate US-14 at 'new' 41. Foster is just too narrow for a US highway, and has stop signs to boot!
4. Re-route IL-56 from eastern section of Butterfield Rd. to 22nd St/Cermak Rd. to Harlem/43 or Manheim/12-20-45.
5. Give Pulaski/Crawford a state #, at least south of I-55.
6. Name US-14 'NW Highway' past Crystal Lake to WI, instead of ending at Virginia St. Try to do same with other routes with commonly known street names: North Av, Milwaukee Av, Lake St, Ogden Av. [Within Chicago CSMA]

Just my 'dream'.  :sleep:

One was granted, IL-171 extended to I-90,  :D

Mine would be to restore the truncated routes and put numbers on all the unmarked state routes (Touhy, Dempster, Golf, McCormick, Willow/Palatine... This one is perhaps the biggest one).
Logged

hobsini2

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 3139
  • Age: 45
  • Location: Bolingbrook, IL
  • Last Login: December 05, 2021, 01:38:29 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2051 on: September 19, 2021, 03:35:53 PM »

There's 'renumbering' threads for US and I's how about IL state highways?
My wish list:

1. Give Randall/Orchard Rd an IL state #.
2. Reinstate IL-32 for the north/south IL-137.
3. Move US-41 off of Foster Av, to replace US-14 easternmost section past Peterson/Lincoln. Truncate US-14 at 'new' 41. Foster is just too narrow for a US highway, and has stop signs to boot!
4. Re-route IL-56 from eastern section of Butterfield Rd. to 22nd St/Cermak Rd. to Harlem/43 or Manheim/12-20-45.
5. Give Pulaski/Crawford a state #, at least south of I-55.
6. Name US-14 'NW Highway' past Crystal Lake to WI, instead of ending at Virginia St. Try to do same with other routes with commonly known street names: North Av, Milwaukee Av, Lake St, Ogden Av. [Within Chicago CSMA]

Just my 'dream'.  :sleep:

One was granted, IL-171 extended to I-90,  :D

Mine would be to restore the truncated routes and put numbers on all the unmarked state routes (Touhy, Dempster, Golf, McCormick, Willow/Palatine... This one is perhaps the biggest one).
I would like to see:
1. IL 7 be truncated back to Theodore St & Larkin Ave in Joliet and then extended north along Weber Rd, Naper Blvd & Naperville Rd to Roosevelt Rd in Wheaton.  Cosign it with IL 38 west to County Farm Rd. Then turn north onto County Farm Rd and Barrington Rd ending at IL 59 in Barrington.  Theodore St goes back to local control.
2. Now I know someone will ask about 159th & Southwest Hwy because of Wish 1. Well, starting at IL 59 & Renwick Rd, a new state highway (Perhaps IL 183) runs east on Renwick Rd to IL 53.  IL 183 takes over the remaining section of former IL 7 on 159th St and Southwest Hwy ending at IL 50 Cicero Ave.
Logged
I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes. Keep firing, assholes! - Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)

Revive 755

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 4447
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 10:26:45 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2052 on: September 19, 2021, 11:17:17 PM »

The state roads through the Western suburbs are pretty good.

Strongly disagree:

1) IL 31 and IL 25 are very slow with too many central business districts.  Even with all of the stoplights and extra distance, Randall and Kirk/Farnsworth are faster.  IL 25 and IL 31 south of I-90 seems strong contenders for decommissioning.

2) Much of IL 47 is long overdue for additional lanes.  Parts of it will probably be one of those facilities that needs six lanes when the initial four-laning is finally completed.

3) US 20 versus Plank Road in Kane County - the county roadway is much better for through traffic and even had a partial bypass built for Burlington.  Still waiting for at least a partial bypass of Pingree Grove for US 20.

4) US 20 between Plank Road and the end of the Elgin Bypass - another candidate for a facility that might need 6 lanes when the initial widening (which is already overdue) finally happens.
Logged

cabiness42

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 4051
  • Age: 47
  • Location: Munster, IN
  • Last Login: Today at 04:20:35 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2053 on: September 20, 2021, 07:26:36 AM »

The state roads through the Western suburbs are pretty good.

Strongly disagree:

1) IL 31 and IL 25 are very slow with too many central business districts.  Even with all of the stoplights and extra distance, Randall and Kirk/Farnsworth are faster.  IL 25 and IL 31 south of I-90 seems strong contenders for decommissioning.

2) Much of IL 47 is long overdue for additional lanes.  Parts of it will probably be one of those facilities that needs six lanes when the initial four-laning is finally completed.

3) US 20 versus Plank Road in Kane County - the county roadway is much better for through traffic and even had a partial bypass built for Burlington.  Still waiting for at least a partial bypass of Pingree Grove for US 20.

4) US 20 between Plank Road and the end of the Elgin Bypass - another candidate for a facility that might need 6 lanes when the initial widening (which is already overdue) finally happens.

If they're gonna decommission 25 and 31, I wish they'd done it before I spent the better part of a day clinching them this spring.
Logged

US20IL64

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 193
  • Location: Elmhurst IL
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 11:09:05 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2054 on: September 20, 2021, 10:08:51 AM »

IL-53 designation should stay on the north Expressway between Dundee Rd/IL-68 and Lake-Cook Rd. And then go to Hicks Rd through Long Grove. So, the 'would have been 53' is not numbered for about a mile, just "To IL-53" south. It's left over from when the X-way ended at 68.
Logged

paulthemapguy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 5787
  • nobody asked me

  • Age: 32
  • Location: Illinois
  • Last Login: Today at 07:24:03 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2055 on: September 20, 2021, 11:58:08 AM »

The state roads through the Western suburbs are pretty good.

Strongly disagree:

Welcome to the Chicago suburbs.  The county roads and municipal arterials are almost always better alternatives than the heinously neglected state roads.
Logged
Avatar is the last interesting highway I clinched.
My Shield Gallery, Sorted https://flic.kr/s/aHsmHwJRZk
Source Photos https://flic.kr/s/aHskFU42pF
TM Clinches https://bit.ly/2UwRs4O

National collection status: 345/424. Only 79 route markers remain!

Hobart

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 53
  • the man of mediocrity is here

  • Location: Tinley Park, Illinois
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 07:16:48 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2056 on: September 20, 2021, 03:22:17 PM »

The state roads through the Western suburbs are pretty good.

Strongly disagree:

Welcome to the Chicago suburbs.  The county roads and municipal arterials are almost always better alternatives than the heinously neglected state roads.

I would like to say, as someone in the south suburbs in Cook County, the Cook County roads are just as terrible as the state ones. Every other county in Chicagoland you make a great point, but between the city and the Will County line, everything's equally bad.
Logged
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

US20IL64

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 193
  • Location: Elmhurst IL
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 11:09:05 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2057 on: September 20, 2021, 04:24:51 PM »

NW Cook seem to be better than West Cook, in that they are wide with turning lanes.
Seems like a different County in general. "Woodfield Co."
Logged

paulthemapguy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 5787
  • nobody asked me

  • Age: 32
  • Location: Illinois
  • Last Login: Today at 07:24:03 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2058 on: September 21, 2021, 10:57:22 AM »

I would like to say, as someone in the south suburbs in Cook County, the Cook County roads are just as terrible as the state ones. Every other county in Chicagoland you make a great point, but between the city and the Will County line, everything's equally bad.

Point taken.  Anything is better than CDOT.  I think my thought applies mostly to the outer suburbs, or "exurbs."

Seems like a different County in general. "Woodfield Co."

Lol, Woodfield County.  I like that.
Logged
Avatar is the last interesting highway I clinched.
My Shield Gallery, Sorted https://flic.kr/s/aHsmHwJRZk
Source Photos https://flic.kr/s/aHskFU42pF
TM Clinches https://bit.ly/2UwRs4O

National collection status: 345/424. Only 79 route markers remain!

Crash_It

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 404
  • Location: Waukegan IL
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 06:59:52 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2059 on: September 21, 2021, 12:00:37 PM »

The state roads through the Western suburbs are pretty good.

Strongly disagree:

Welcome to the Chicago suburbs.  The county roads and municipal arterials are almost always better alternatives than the heinously neglected state roads.

I would like to say, as someone in the south suburbs in Cook County, the Cook County roads are just as terrible as the state ones. Every other county in Chicagoland you make a great point, but between the city and the Will County line, everything's equally bad.

What state roads in So Cook are in terrible shape? 1 just got resurfaced, 83 is in good shape as is 50, 43 and 394 is currently being resurfaced
Logged

JoePCool14

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1995
  • I'm surrounded by IDiOTs.

  • Age: 21
  • Location: Illinois / Wisconsin
  • Last Login: Today at 11:51:50 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2060 on: September 22, 2021, 08:59:57 AM »

CCHD (which is the actual name of the department, not CDOT, unless you meant Chicago) roads are not great in my area. They've been resurfacing some roads, but there's still a lot that I'd consider in poor shape. There aren't usually many great upgrades going on either.
Logged

:) Needs more... :sombrero: Not quite... :bigass: Perfect.
JDOT: We make the world a better place to drive.

paulthemapguy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 5787
  • nobody asked me

  • Age: 32
  • Location: Illinois
  • Last Login: Today at 07:24:03 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2061 on: September 22, 2021, 03:35:15 PM »

CCHD (which is the actual name of the department, not CDOT, unless you meant Chicago) roads are not great in my area. They've been resurfacing some roads, but there's still a lot that I'd consider in poor shape. There aren't usually many great upgrades going on either.

I did mean Chicago, as an example of where the municipal roads are terrible compared to the county roads.
Logged
Avatar is the last interesting highway I clinched.
My Shield Gallery, Sorted https://flic.kr/s/aHsmHwJRZk
Source Photos https://flic.kr/s/aHskFU42pF
TM Clinches https://bit.ly/2UwRs4O

National collection status: 345/424. Only 79 route markers remain!

ChiMilNet

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 457
  • Location: Chicago West Suburbs
  • Last Login: Today at 10:09:16 PM
    • ChiMil Photos
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2062 on: September 22, 2021, 03:40:27 PM »

CCHD (which is the actual name of the department, not CDOT, unless you meant Chicago) roads are not great in my area. They've been resurfacing some roads, but there's still a lot that I'd consider in poor shape. There aren't usually many great upgrades going on either.

I did mean Chicago, as an example of where the municipal roads are terrible compared to the county roads.

I wouldn't call Cook County stellar by any means, but CDOT is the worst. If you live in the city, plan to replace your tires at least a year or two more frequently than you would otherwise. Also, stoplights coordination... no such thing there!

One of the worst things about Cook County is the highways website, which, somehow, is worse than IDOT's website! If they update it once a year just when the projects list is released annually, that is about it!
Logged

US20IL64

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 193
  • Location: Elmhurst IL
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 11:09:05 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2063 on: September 23, 2021, 12:04:58 AM »

IL-19, Irving Park, in Chicago is different every year, torn often much for pipes, etc. While Addison St, is smooth, but narrow, maybe the Cubs pay for it?  :-D

Same with US 14, Peterson Av, always tore up between each summer, while Devon Av is usually ok. And in the rich areas, like Sauganash, 14 is usually smooth.

Regarding Cook Co, Grand Av in Franklin Park is fairly well kept up. Just needs a few more left turn lanes.
Logged

ET21

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 2680
  • Age: 29
  • Location: Chicagoland, USA
  • Last Login: Today at 12:41:36 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2064 on: September 23, 2021, 09:38:39 AM »

That's probably due to Chicago replacing the 110 year old pipes underneath the streets over the next few years
Logged
The local weatherman, trust me I can be 99.9% right!
"Show where you're going, without forgetting where you're from"

Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

abefroman329

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 3416
  • Age: 42
  • Location: Chicago
  • Last Login: November 28, 2021, 11:54:59 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2065 on: September 23, 2021, 10:38:49 AM »

Same with US 14, Peterson Av, always tore up between each summer, while Devon Av is usually ok. And in the rich areas, like Sauganash, 14 is usually smooth.
As I recall, they completely closed Devon for several blocks in Edgebrook two summers ago.  It was a pain, especially for anyone trying to get to the Kennedy from the Far North Side, but at least it was done in one summer.
Logged

Hobart

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 53
  • the man of mediocrity is here

  • Location: Tinley Park, Illinois
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 07:16:48 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2066 on: September 23, 2021, 10:21:39 PM »

The state roads through the Western suburbs are pretty good.

Strongly disagree:

Welcome to the Chicago suburbs.  The county roads and municipal arterials are almost always better alternatives than the heinously neglected state roads.

I would like to say, as someone in the south suburbs in Cook County, the Cook County roads are just as terrible as the state ones. Every other county in Chicagoland you make a great point, but between the city and the Will County line, everything's equally bad.

What state roads in So Cook are in terrible shape? 1 just got resurfaced, 83 is in good shape as is 50, 43 and 394 is currently being resurfaced

IL-43 south of Vollmer is quite bad, but I'm mainly talking about the roads maintained by the Cook County Highway Department.

175th street in Tinley Park has been notoriously bad for a literal decade, 167th street and 171st street have the standard bumpiness from being paved with concrete, Ridgeland north of 175th is almost as bad as 175th itself, and there are two "temporary" signal installations that have been up for a decade or more. One still uses incandescent bulbs. It's so bad that the Village of Tinley Park got Cook County to turn over 175th and Ridgeland after some work is done.
Logged
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

paulthemapguy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 5787
  • nobody asked me

  • Age: 32
  • Location: Illinois
  • Last Login: Today at 07:24:03 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2067 on: October 15, 2021, 12:00:24 AM »

A traffic signal modernization program has swept across Joliet, especially downtown.  A lot of mast arms have been revised to a setup that includes one signal head per lane, and yellow-bordered backplates are now widespread.  Sadly, this means a lot of the classic Illinois-style truss assemblies are disappearing.
Logged
Avatar is the last interesting highway I clinched.
My Shield Gallery, Sorted https://flic.kr/s/aHsmHwJRZk
Source Photos https://flic.kr/s/aHskFU42pF
TM Clinches https://bit.ly/2UwRs4O

National collection status: 345/424. Only 79 route markers remain!

ET21

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 2680
  • Age: 29
  • Location: Chicagoland, USA
  • Last Login: Today at 12:41:36 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2068 on: October 15, 2021, 10:06:27 AM »

Yeah I've been noticing that once traffic lights are replaced these days, we get the yellow background plates. It's still very isolated here but I'm noticing a few more each month
Logged
The local weatherman, trust me I can be 99.9% right!
"Show where you're going, without forgetting where you're from"

Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90, I-94
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

Hobart

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 53
  • the man of mediocrity is here

  • Location: Tinley Park, Illinois
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 07:16:48 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2069 on: October 15, 2021, 07:22:17 PM »

Honestly, I'll miss the old style truss setups, but I am somewhat looking forward to the yellow stripes on the edges of the signals. Yeah it's losing a bit of personality compared to other states, but it certainly works at increasing visibility. Maybe we'll even get back plates with yellow strips for signals mounted on pedestals, like the rest of the state does.


I'm hoping the state cheaps out too and puts the yellow strips onto the edges of some really old signals, like this one in Taylorville in 2013. I just like the way it looks.

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5586572,-89.2982245,3a,53.9y,242.97h,81.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7Q58JjcGPSy5EeMHD0CoaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Logged
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

ilpt4u

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 2565
  • Location: Southern IL
  • Last Login: Today at 10:29:26 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2070 on: October 15, 2021, 07:34:05 PM »

D9 IDOT did the SoIL Stoplights a few months ago with the Yellow borders added to the backplates, most places Iíve noticed, anyway. Iíll keep my eyes peeled if there are stragglers

Local jurisdiction signals generally have not yet adopted the Yellow backplate borders, yet anyway

I feel like the Springfield IDOT District has been using the Yellow borders on the backplates for years, fwiw
Logged

Revive 755

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 4447
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 10:26:45 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2071 on: October 15, 2021, 10:45:14 PM »

Local jurisdiction signals generally have not yet adopted the Yellow backplate borders, yet anyway

Depends on the jurisdiction.  Given all the recent signal replacement projects Kane County may now have more reflective than non-reflective backplates on county-jurisdiction roads.  Kane County also seems to be using them for almost all recent signal projects.

EDIT:  McHenry County may also be trending towards more frequent use of the retroreflective backplates.  They used them on the Randall Road rebuild.  Might see a lot more if the rumored flashing yellow arrow projects come through.  Though with the Illinois Standard Specs making retroreflective backplates default, it is likely the retroreflective backplates will spread among local signals.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2021, 10:55:58 PM by Revive 755 »
Logged

US20IL64

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 193
  • Location: Elmhurst IL
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 11:09:05 AM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2072 on: October 16, 2021, 01:43:49 AM »

There are now flashing yellow left-turn signals on Randall Rd, in Batavia/Geneva. And in Yorkville area.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2021, 02:06:07 AM by US20IL64 »
Logged

Revive 755

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 4447
  • Last Login: December 07, 2021, 10:26:45 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2073 on: October 16, 2021, 12:54:12 PM »

IDOT has posted the Type Size and Location plans on their website for replacing I-270 over the Mississippi River: 
EB Bridge
WB Bridge
Logged

edwaleni

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1344
  • Last Login: Today at 09:19:13 PM
Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #2074 on: October 16, 2021, 01:48:56 PM »

IDOT has posted the Type Size and Location plans on their website for replacing I-270 over the Mississippi River: 
EB Bridge
WB Bridge

I remember when the original opened after all the lawsuits. All the traffic was diverted at Old Chain of Rocks (former Bypass US-40) west of Alton Road.

At least this one will have shoulders. While it reduces the overall count of pylons, not really an issue since boats can't navigate through here, the design is typical design/build generic with 2 longer spans to eliminate the mentioned pylons.
Logged

 


Opinions expressed here on belong solely to the poster and do not represent or reflect the opinions or beliefs of AARoads, its creators and/or associates.