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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #125 on: June 27, 2015, 11:46:46 AM »

Looking at StreetView, here's what I can piece together of what the new exit numbers will be:
WB:
?: ON-3 (original end of 401) (no idea, imagery from 2014)
?: Todd Lane (no idea, imagery from 2014)
5: ON-3 to the Ambassador Bridge https://goo.gl/maps/INIi4
?: Ojibway Parkway (too far away from E.C. Row)

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?: E.C. Row (gore sign not posted yet at time StreetView was there)
6: Todd Lane https://goo.gl/maps/jrKfD
?: ON-3 (original end of 401) (no idea, imagery from 2014)

Guess this is better than nothing. lol.

There's an Exit 7 I saw in the Westbound video, but I don't know where.

10: ON-3 (original end of 401) Eastbound

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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #126 on: June 27, 2015, 07:30:34 PM »

There's also these 2 videos posted on Youtube who might give more clues about the new exit numbers.

Thanks for posting those two videos.  Was able to get 2 more exit numbers from them.  Updated my post on the previous page.

Also, it seems that they will be ending the 401 temporarily @ Exit #5, even though you still will be able to go all the way to Ojibway Parkway.

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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #127 on: June 28, 2015, 03:37:41 PM »

That could also be temporary signage.  The section between the exit for ON 3 and Ojibway Parkway isn't done and won't be opening until later.
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #128 on: June 28, 2015, 10:29:04 PM »

That could also be temporary signage.  The section between the exit for ON 3 and Ojibway Parkway isn't done and won't be opening until later.

The way it's stripped at Exit #5 seems to indicate that it will open to Ojibway Parkway on opening day.  There is a lane that goes to the left.  You can clearly see this @ the 9:15 minute mark of the WB video. https://youtu.be/4eSBPVkJpfI?t=9m15s
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #129 on: June 28, 2015, 10:34:07 PM »

naw.  Hwy 401 will end just east of the EC Row Expressway interchange at Labelle Street until the new bridge is opened in 2020 (ish).  Despite the fact that the highway was fully striped as far as Ojibiway Parkway, its not going to be opened for another 5 years.
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #131 on: June 29, 2015, 02:52:17 PM »

Now updated in OSM (including adding a ramp that got missed earlier); it will take a bit longer to show up in high zooms and get into the OSRM routing database, but I already dirtied the tile cache at each level so the area should rerender soon.
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #132 on: June 29, 2015, 04:33:06 PM »

Has construction on the bridge over the Detroit River even started yet? Or are NIMBYs screwing with it?
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #133 on: June 29, 2015, 04:44:22 PM »

Has construction on the bridge over the Detroit River even started yet? Or are NIMBYs screwing with it?

Latest news: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/local-companies-to-submit-qualifications-for-gordie-howe-bridge-work-1.3127450
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #134 on: June 29, 2015, 04:50:00 PM »

Has construction on the bridge over the Detroit River even started yet? Or are NIMBYs screwing with it?

Latest news: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/local-companies-to-submit-qualifications-for-gordie-howe-bridge-work-1.3127450

Seems like it is going through well and at the international level NIMBYs won't screw with it.
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #135 on: June 29, 2015, 06:29:08 PM »

Why does the new section of ON 401 have such a low speed limit?  60 kph?  Seriously?  Even parallel ON 3 has 80 kph!
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #136 on: June 29, 2015, 06:49:19 PM »

Why does the new section of ON 401 have such a low speed limit?  60 kph?  Seriously?  Even parallel ON 3 has 80 kph!

I believe it's because the lanes were reduced to two lanes, and the highway isn't complete its construction yet. Surprised me as well though.

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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #137 on: June 29, 2015, 07:08:25 PM »

Why does the new section of ON 401 have such a low speed limit?  60 kph?  Seriously?  Even parallel ON 3 has 80 kph!

I believe it's because the lanes were reduced to two lanes, and the highway isn't complete its construction yet. Surprised me as well though.

When construction is finished the speed will probably be 90 to 100 kph.
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #138 on: June 29, 2015, 08:01:33 PM »

Check the Blue Water Bridge approaches on Highway 402 and look at the incredibly slow speed limit there and you'll find your answer....
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #139 on: June 29, 2015, 11:17:00 PM »

I believe it's because the lanes were reduced to two lanes, and the highway isn't complete its construction yet. Surprised me as well though.

Correct. I believe in the design plans it's supposed to be signed at 80-100 km/h when it's finished, with the limit dropping near the Huron Church Rd exit, probably due to the 90-degree curve and the possibility of traffic backups. Eastbound I think it's planned to be 90 along the section inside EC Row. Of course, MTO might decide to post something different when it's done.

My understanding is that it's supposed to be opened all the way to Ojibway Parkway when the work on the connecting ramps and roadways are done, rather than just sitting there for years until the GHIB is done, although it might not be signed as 401 westbound at the Huron Church exit to discourage non-local traffic (perhaps "Truck Ferry to USA" or something), since it will divert some traffic away from using the Huron Church/EC Row parclo, particularly the truck ferry traffic and local traffic destined for points east rather than Windsor.
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #140 on: June 30, 2015, 10:49:02 AM »

When construction is finished the speed will probably be 90 to 100 kph.

The most recently released plans call for it to be 80 km/h from the bridge to the diversion from the ECR alignment, then 90 km/h from there to approximately Cousineau Rd, then 100 km/h from Cousineau Road easterly. I don't know if they've changed anything, but that was the most recent plans for that stretch once the construction crews clear out.

Check the Blue Water Bridge approaches on Highway 402 and look at the incredibly slow speed limit there and you'll find your answer....

Beginning at the BWB plaza, it's 80 km/h for 1710 m, then opens up to the full 100 km/h. Not really "incredibly slow" by any stretch of the imagination.
Now, before reconstruction it was a 70 km/h zone for a while out further, and during the work that was reduced to 50 km/h under the DCZ. Now that was painful.
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #141 on: July 01, 2015, 01:19:55 AM »

Google still didn't (it's been a day and a half, c'mon now! :-D ) have the road updated, so I sent an email to Google. They should have it fixed soon hopefully.

When construction is finished the speed will probably be 90 to 100 kph.

The most recently released plans call for it to be 80 km/h from the bridge to the diversion from the ECR alignment, then 90 km/h from there to approximately Cousineau Rd, then 100 km/h from Cousineau Road easterly. I don't know if they've changed anything, but that was the most recent plans for that stretch once the construction crews clear out.

Here: http://www.hgparkway.ca/sites/default/files/pdfs/WEP%207th%20PIOH%20-%20Roll%20Plan%20WEB.pdf

Document was slow to load on my computer. Red speed limits are the 401.
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #142 on: July 01, 2015, 08:54:08 AM »

Google updated it! Now it shows the completed part of the Herb Gray parkway! :D
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #143 on: July 01, 2015, 10:29:21 AM »

Google updated it! Now it shows the completed part of the Herb Gray parkway! :D

Only problem is that they still show tons of buildings in the corridor and overtop of both {3} & {401}.

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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #144 on: July 01, 2015, 12:01:52 PM »

Was the Herb Gray Parkway timed to be open for Canada Day or was it just a coincidence?
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #145 on: July 01, 2015, 03:12:42 PM »

Imagery is also available in the historical imagery layer of Google Earth, dated March 2015.



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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #146 on: July 01, 2015, 04:33:45 PM »

Was the Herb Gray Parkway timed to be open for Canada Day or was it just a coincidence?

It opened on Monday. That would have been nice if they opened it on Canada Day though. They could have some sort of 8 km walk / run similar to what happened before the 404 extension opened last September.

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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #147 on: July 01, 2015, 06:25:34 PM »

Maybe off topic, but what's the opinion of Windsor residents in regards to the extension? Any ideas?
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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #148 on: July 01, 2015, 11:51:34 PM »

All traffic forced off at Ojibway for now?

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Re: Highway 401 in Ontario - busiest freeway in the world
« Reply #149 on: July 02, 2015, 01:07:10 AM »

Maybe off topic, but what's the opinion of Windsor residents in regards to the extension? Any ideas?

Not sure, but I would think reactions would be mixed. Although environmental concerns were addressed, a large portion of tall grass prairie habitat was destroyed. However, through traffic has been drastically reduced, which can only mean locals would be pleased. The highway is of course below grade, so noise won't be as much of a concern.

All traffic forced off at Ojibway for now?

Labelle Street. Apparently (according to Satellite) striping is done all the way to Ojibway, but isn't opened yet. Should open later this year hopefully.
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