Same name, different roads for subdivisions

[mcdonaat]

Searched and didn't find anything, so here it goes! Anyone have an example of a road starting up and stopping multiple times for subdivisons? In Baton Rouge, we have Menlo, Boone, Hyacinth, Seyburn, and Chandler, which are unconnected and many times are actually small one block streets.

Map link - http://goo.gl/maps/grwQV
Each street has its own color, for easier viewing.

[PurdueBill]

The only thing I thought of off the top of my head that I was first-hand familiar with was Samoset Ave in Peabody, Mass.  It's possible that the street would have been continuous if not for the West School, but the lay of the land makes it somewhat unlikely.  However, that's not anywhere as extreme as the streets highlighted in yours, and Samoset is all in the same subdivision and connects by another street easily.

[Brandon]

Many streets in the Chicago area start and stop, particularly on the grid systems in the area.  Just as an examples, you have several sections of 75th Street.  One is a major thoroughfare through southern DuPage County, one is a small but busy street by the USP facility in Willow Springs, and the other eastern sections are residential and local streets split by rail lines in the close in suburbs and city of Chicago.

Even more local is George Avenue in Joliet.  It exists in four parts: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=george+avenue,+joliet&hl=en&sll=41.513015,-88.150169&sspn=0.393332,0.617294&t=h&hnear=George+Ave,+Joliet,+Will,+Illinois+60435&z=15.

[1995hoo]

Arlington County, Virginia, does that because there is generally just one "authorized" name per "alphabet." For example, in the three-syllable outlet the "B" position is Buchanan Street. There are five or six separate Buchanan Streets in the county.

I imagine this sort of thing is not all that unusual.

[mcdonaat]

Hmm... maybe I should clarify a little bit, haha. Unconnected streets in separate neighborhoods not on a grid system. The linear direction might even be off (notice Hyacinth having about 1/2 mile offset between the western segment and the middle.

Grid systems can easily be disrupted, but this is an example of multiple neighborhoods using the same named street at approximately the same distance from Highland Road.

[Kacie Jane]

To be blunt, I don't really see how this is any different from a grid system.  I mean, sure, it's not a grid with neat right angles, but the logic behind it is the same.

[PurdueBill]

The Hyacinth example in the original post is pretty wild though...it doesn't line up like it would if it were a real grid...it lines up with other streets and even curves.

[Takumi]

A couple of streets about half a mile from my house are like this; one (Charles Avenue) is broken up by I-95 into two (never connected) segments, while the other (Holly Avenue) has three segments, with the southern and middle broken by a perpendicular street's bridge over I-95 and the middle and northern segment separated by the high school.

[J N Winkler]

I think the OP is asking about carryover of street names (other than obvious examples like numbered streets) where the streets in question overlap the same latitude or longitude but are in separate subdivisions platted by different developers.

In Wichita, where east-west streets are numbered (with some exceptions) but north-south streets have names, carryover of names longitudinally is the norm only for older neighborhoods.  The system starts to break down west of the 4000 West block and east of the 6300 East block.  I live in a subdivision which has a mix of carryover names (Colorado Street, Nevada Street, Sabin Street) but both my street and the next one have names which are sui generis to this subdivision.

I think there are two factors at work here.  First, it is problematic to enforce name carryover in subdivisions where many of the streets are oriented at an angle to the prevailing grid, as is the case in my subdivision.  (This type of design was encouraged in the 1960's and 1970's to create curves in subdivision roads, which would naturally limit speeds.)  Second, I believe the Clean Water Act (the stormwater runoff provisions of which came into effect around 1980) choked off name carryover through two mechanisms:

*  Detention basins themselves disrupt the grid.

*  Developers had more of a financial incentive to master-plan subdivisions for rapid sale of plots and thus speedy transfer of their liability to a homeowners' association.  One common gambit to encourage rapid sale is to provide an amenity, such as a golf course, which disrupts the street grid.  A compressed timeframe limits the developer's opportunity to "listen" for carryover names that develop organically, or for a planning authority to impose them.  Sometimes the developer's need or desire to market the signature amenity overrides a willingness to accept thematically unrelated carryover names that are used in other subdivisions.

Ego is part of the process as well.  On the basis of counting from the nearest generally north-south street that has a carryover name, my street should be named Baehr.  Instead its actual name is the developer's middle name.

[mcdonaat]

In a nutshell, the neighborhoods were all planned by different people, and built during different years. My best guess is that, really, giving the same name would make things easier. However, when you deliver pizza or sandwiches to someone on Boone, you have to ask which neighborhood their Boone is.

It's funny... you'll have Wooddale and Woodgrove and Woodforest and Woodsmith and Boone and Woodplains and Woodview and Boone and Woodland and Woodcreek and Seyburn.

[Scott5114]

An example from the Argentine neighborhood of Kansas City: "Silver", "Ruby", and "Wyandotte" start and stop like this.

Edit: Upon further inspection, it looks like a lot of streets in Kansas City, Kansas do this. Silver/Ruby/Wyandotte are just a few examples.

[mcdonaat]

Wyandotte is crazy... Also found this while going south. All I gotta say is... WTF. http://goo.gl/maps/RJUhI

[NE2]

Wyandotte is crazy... Also found this while going south. All I gotta say is... WTF. http://goo.gl/maps/RJUhI

Found what? Missouri D?

[Scott5114]

Haha. That would be Route D–MO uses lettered secondary highways. For some reason someone decided to put "Missouri" in the shield too.

[PurdueBill]

It's funny... you'll have Wooddale and Woodgrove and Woodforest and Woodsmith and Boone and Woodplains and Woodview and Boone and Woodland and Woodcreek and Seyburn.

Those made me think of a friend's family's neighborhood....Woodfield Drive, Woodfield Drive North, North Woodfield Blvd, Woodfield Drive South, and Woodfield Circle, all intersecting with another one and all different streets.  Woodfield Way is very nearby but connects by a couple non-Woodfield streets.  Seems like a risk for 9-1-1 calls as well as pizza delivery!

In Lafayette, Ind. there is a somewhat random disconnected part of Salem Street right near a part of 29th St. that meets Union St. opposite the major part of 30th St.  There are lots of other little bits of disconnected numbered streets around there that don't match up to the grid.

[vtk]

This doesn't happen much around Columbus.  (Aside from "grid" streets, anyway.)

A neighborhood on the western edge of the county which appeared on maps for many years before finally being built in the 90's has a street called Soldier Dr.  But it was originally planned as Feder Rd, presumably as an extension, though what appeared on maps and was built doesn't connect to the existing Feder Rd.

In the Hilliard area is Kilcullen Dr, which exists in two segments, in two neighborhoods which were probably planned together, but built at differrent times.  It appears that plans were changed in the intervening time, so when the second segment was built it did not connect to the stubby first segment.  There are two houses on said stub, which probably are difficult for delivery drivers, though I suspect they are responsible for the disconnect, not wanting their dead-end to become a through street.

[roadman65]

Clark, NJ has two different Willow Ways.   They are separated by Pumpkin Patch Brook, and were never connected, nor can they unless some homes are demolished.

The section of Willow Way between Lake Avenue and the Brook was built first.  Then the other Willow Way that goes from Deerwood Drive to a Dead End was built some time later.

If the Township of Clark did not build their community pool, I believe the dead end would have continued to end at Oak Ridge Road with another subdivision where the pool is located.

Another thing of interest is that in both Clark, NJ and Scotch Plains, NJ there are two different roadways named "Raritan Road."  They are not on the same line or in a grid, but interesting enough, both roads did connect and were continuous via Lamberts Mill Road that straddles the Westfield- Scotch Plains border as in Clark there is a dead end street named "Old Raritan Road" that terminates at the current Conrail Shared Assets Line directly across from Lamberts Mill Road where it curves away from the border it straddles and into Westfield to briefly follow the rail road.

Also there is a Featherbead Lane in both Clark and Edison that are not connected and are miles apart running two different directions that were once connected via Raritan Road (when Raritan crossed the railroad into Scotch Plains this part of Raritan Road was Featherbead) and Oakridge Road.

I know the Raritan Road and Featherbead Lane does not count here, but is almost similar being they are in two neighboring communities.

[cpzilliacus]

Arlington County, Virginia, does that because there is generally just one "authorized" name per "alphabet." For example, in the three-syllable outlet the "B" position is Buchanan Street. There are five or six separate Buchanan Streets in the county.

I imagine this sort of thing is not all that unusual.

Common in the District of Columbia as well. 

As you know, D.C. is divided up into four quadrants.  Usually the east-west streets are arranged by syllables as well, with  the two-syllable streets starting north of the single-letter streets and so on, as you head away from  the National Mall (along with East Capitol Street, the National Mall is the east-west axis in D.C.).

But just for fun, and to add confusion (and this  has caused issues with D.C. 911 sending emergency response to the correct place), there are some streets that can be found north and  south of the east-west axis, in particular Brandywine Street and Chesapeake Street can be found in the "far" Northwest quadrant of D.C., as well as in Southwest and Southeast D.C.  In Northwest, they intersect both Connecticut Avenue and Wisconsin Avenue; and in Southeast and Southwest, they intersect South Capitol Street.

For even more fun, there is a Yuma Street, N.W. and a Yuma Street, S.E.

There are more examples, but that's all that  I can  think of without having to consult a map.

[catch22]

The street I live on has 19 or 20 (depending on how you count*) individual segments from its start at Livernois Avenue in Detroit westward to its last appearance just east of I-275, traveling through Detroit, Redford Township, and Livonia.

* Where it crosses Telegraph Road (US-24), the section that was in Telegraph's median was removed several years ago, replaced by a Michigan Left ramp just to the north, leaving two segments east and west of Telegraph.

[1995hoo]

The threadbump prompts me to think of the three Glenbrook Roads in the Mantua area of Fairfax County, Virginia. On the map linked below, you'll see two of them; the third one is not labelled at the zoom level I've selected, but it's the piece in between the other two that connects Colesbury Place and Southwick Street. I attended Mantua Elementary School for three years in the mid-1980s and so I knew that area fairly well. Everyone found Glenbrook Road to be odd because it was the only street that was broken up like that.

http://binged.it/YbAERn

[Road Hog]

I'm thinking a lot of these were established before the advent of 911 in a lot of places and were grandfathered in. Modern P&Z commissions would never allow this in my neck of the woods in the same incorporated areas.

(From town to town, all bets are off and you'll probably find 50 Azalea Ways within a 20-mile radius.)

[ftballfan]

The street I live on has 19 or 20 (depending on how you count*) individual segments from its start at Livernois Avenue in Detroit westward to its last appearance just east of I-275, traveling through Detroit, Redford Township, and Livonia.

* Where it crosses Telegraph Road (US-24), the section that was in Telegraph's median was removed several years ago, replaced by a Michigan Left ramp just to the north, leaving two segments east and west of Telegraph.

WOW! That's a lot of different segments!

[cpzilliacus]

The threadbump prompts me to think of the three Glenbrook Roads in the Mantua area of Fairfax County, Virginia. On the map linked below, you'll see two of them; the third one is not labelled at the zoom level I've selected, but it's the piece in between the other two that connects Colesbury Place and Southwick Street. I attended Mantua Elementary School for three years in the mid-1980s and so I knew that area fairly well. Everyone found Glenbrook Road to be odd because it was the only street that was broken up like that.

http://binged.it/YbAERn

There is also a Glenbrook Road in Bethesda, Montgomery County, Maryland.