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Fluxuating Control Cities on Pull through signs

Started by roadman65, January 06, 2013, 08:54:31 PM

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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 12:33:02 AM
It's been three days, and no one's going to point out that fluxuate (as opposed to fluctuate) is not a word?  I guess we're nicer here than on the rest of the internet.

Quote from: Steve on January 06, 2013, 11:13:50 PM
The magical disappearing, reappearing New York on I-80 EB from Cleveland.

Likewise, New York north from Baltimore on I-95.
At least the NJ Turnpike now signs their pull-thru signs with New York.  And between Interchanges 1 & 4 on the DE Turnpike, I can't think of any real pull-thru signs with a city.  So there may actually be some consistancy from Baltimore to North Jersey.  (Not that it's right for Maryland to ignore Delaware, PA & NJ however).



hbelkins

Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 12:33:02 AM
It's been three days, and no one's going to point out that fluxuate (as opposed to fluctuate) is not a word?  I guess we're nicer here than on the rest of the internet.

I noticed immediately but didn't feel the need to comment.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

1995hoo

Quote from: hbelkins on January 10, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 12:33:02 AM
It's been three days, and no one's going to point out that fluxuate (as opposed to fluctuate) is not a word?  I guess we're nicer here than on the rest of the internet.

I noticed immediately but didn't feel the need to comment.

Same here. I'll point out a typo if it's particularly bad or if it's funny, but otherwise I don't always want to be the "spelling Nazi" or the "grammar Nazi." (But if someone uses text-message spelling, I simply ignore the post. I find that stuff hard to read.)
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Kacie Jane

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 10, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 10, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 12:33:02 AM
It's been three days, and no one's going to point out that fluxuate (as opposed to fluctuate) is not a word?  I guess we're nicer here than on the rest of the internet.

I noticed immediately but didn't feel the need to comment.

Same here. I'll point out a typo if it's particularly bad or if it's funny, but otherwise I don't always want to be the "spelling Nazi" or the "grammar Nazi." (But if someone uses text-message spelling, I simply ignore the post. I find that stuff hard to read.)

Fair enough.  To be fair, I didn't notice until yesterday, a couple of hours before I posted, despite seeing the thread right away.  I caught it out of the corner of my eye, thought "What about flux capacitors?", read it properly, and noticed the issue.  And then it started bugging me every time I saw it, so the Anal Spelling Enthusiast in me felt the need to point it out.

golden eagle

South of Memphis, I-55 uses Jackson as a control city, but later down the road, uses Batesville as a control city. Past Batesville, Grenada is the control city, but goes back to Jackson beyond there.

roadman65

Some of you need to go to street view LOL and check out the misspelling that the OOCEA uses for Re-entry.  At EXIT 24, on the FL 528 the overhead guide (and other places on the system) the word Reentry is used.

Then you have the word thru for through, Donut for Doughnut,  Boro for borough, etc.

Of course, even though incorrect technically those are accepted alternate spellings.  Although spell check listed two of those as incorrect.

Anyway, I took note.  I should have looked the word up before using.  John Tesh once said on his radio show that improper spelling can turn readers away especially on job resumes.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

kphoger

"Reentry" does not have to be hyphenated according to most dictionaries.

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Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

1995hoo

Quote from: roadman65 on January 10, 2013, 12:56:20 PM
Some of you need to go to street view LOL and check out the misspelling that the OOCEA uses for Re-entry.  At EXIT 24, on the FL 528 the overhead guide (and other places on the system) the word Reentry is used.

Then you have the word thru for through, Donut for Doughnut,  Boro for borough, etc.

Of course, even though incorrect technically those are accepted alternate spellings.  Although spell check listed two of those as incorrect.

Anyway, I took note.  I should have looked the word up before using.  John Tesh once said on his radio show that improper spelling can turn readers away especially on job resumes.

FWIW, the correct expression is "should have." "should have" is so obvious that it's often used as a "gotcha" kind of incorrect answer on tests like the SAT.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

Kacie Jane

Quote from: roadman65 on January 10, 2013, 12:56:20 PM
Then you have the word thru for through, Donut for Doughnut,  Boro for borough, etc.

"Boro" I think is a case of the abbreviation -- since when you look at it, it's pronounced the same as the full word -- getting overused.

"Thru" is iffy.  I don't have a problem with it in the context of "thru traffic" -- although that's a shitty control city -- but if you tell me you drove "thru a tunnel", I may have to smack you.  (Likewise, "late nite" is okay, but nite as a substitute in other contexts is not.  I have no idea, though, how "lite" became an acceptable way to spell the name of half-fat salad dressings.)

"Donuts" has always been an acceptable spelling as long as I've been alive, at least on this side of the pond, and is in the name of a multinational corporation.

But sadly, "fluxuate" is merely an honest mistake.

SSOWorld

How about bridges as control cities - significance?

Other roads? http://goo.gl/maps/DsaIz

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Ah, the open skies, wind at my back, warm sun on my... wait, where the hell am I?!
As a matter of fact, I do own the road.
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A.J. Bertin

Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 10, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 10, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 12:33:02 AM
It's been three days, and no one's going to point out that fluxuate (as opposed to fluctuate) is not a word?  I guess we're nicer here than on the rest of the internet.

I noticed immediately but didn't feel the need to comment.

Same here. I'll point out a typo if it's particularly bad or if it's funny, but otherwise I don't always want to be the "spelling Nazi" or the "grammar Nazi." (But if someone uses text-message spelling, I simply ignore the post. I find that stuff hard to read.)

Fair enough.  To be fair, I didn't notice until yesterday, a couple of hours before I posted, despite seeing the thread right away.  I caught it out of the corner of my eye, thought "What about flux capacitors?", read it properly, and noticed the issue.  And then it started bugging me every time I saw it, so the Anal Spelling Enthusiast in me felt the need to point it out.

I'm usually kind of a spelling/grammar nazi. I figure... if I make a mistake, I would want someone else to point it out to me so I can fix it. I always try to point out corrections in a polite, constructive way and hope that others point out my mistakes to me in the same manner.
-A.J. from Michigan

roadman65

Quote from: A.J. Bertin on January 10, 2013, 01:33:13 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 10, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 10, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 12:33:02 AM
It's been three days, and no one's going to point out that fluxuate (as opposed to fluctuate) is not a word?  I guess we're nicer here than on the rest of the internet.

I noticed immediately but didn't feel the need to comment.

Same here. I'll point out a typo if it's particularly bad or if it's funny, but otherwise I don't always want to be the "spelling Nazi" or the "grammar Nazi." (But if someone uses text-message spelling, I simply ignore the post. I find that stuff hard to read.)

Fair enough.  To be fair, I didn't notice until yesterday, a couple of hours before I posted, despite seeing the thread right away.  I caught it out of the corner of my eye, thought "What about flux capacitors?", read it properly, and noticed the issue.  And then it started bugging me every time I saw it, so the Anal Spelling Enthusiast in me felt the need to point it out.

I'm usually kind of a spelling/grammar nazi. I figure... if I make a mistake, I would want someone else to point it out to me so I can fix it. I always try to point out corrections in a polite, constructive way and hope that others point out my mistakes to me in the same manner.
Yeah thanks.  It is what we all should do.  Too many people in today's world do not do that and either be mean, or just say nothing to them and gossip behind their backs.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

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1995hoo

Quote from: A.J. Bertin on January 10, 2013, 01:33:13 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 10, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 10, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 12:33:02 AM
It's been three days, and no one's going to point out that fluxuate (as opposed to fluctuate) is not a word?  I guess we're nicer here than on the rest of the internet.

I noticed immediately but didn't feel the need to comment.

Same here. I'll point out a typo if it's particularly bad or if it's funny, but otherwise I don't always want to be the "spelling Nazi" or the "grammar Nazi." (But if someone uses text-message spelling, I simply ignore the post. I find that stuff hard to read.)

Fair enough.  To be fair, I didn't notice until yesterday, a couple of hours before I posted, despite seeing the thread right away.  I caught it out of the corner of my eye, thought "What about flux capacitors?", read it properly, and noticed the issue.  And then it started bugging me every time I saw it, so the Anal Spelling Enthusiast in me felt the need to point it out.

I'm usually kind of a spelling/grammar nazi. I figure... if I make a mistake, I would want someone else to point it out to me so I can fix it. I always try to point out corrections in a polite, constructive way and hope that others point out my mistakes to me in the same manner.

For me, the thing is that I find typos everywhere, and I often spot them very quickly. Road signs, restaurant menus, the missal at Sunday Mass, the newspaper, opposing parties' briefing (my favorite was when opposing counsel called my client's product a "pubic health hazard" when they meant "public")....I find them EVERYWHERE. I also know that depending on the forum, some people take offense if you seem to be nitpicking too much on typos. So I've kind of reached the point where I tend to ignore something that I think looks like it was an honest typo (given that we all make mistakes, and given that typos can be really easy to make if you're typing on your phone or the like) but I might be more likely to point it out if I think it looks like someone either misunderstood what a word meant or genuinely didn't know how to spell it. I think in the latter two cases it's helpful to point it out so that the person doesn't make the same mistake in the future in a situation where it might be embarrassing–for instance, I once knew a guy who didn't know how to spell "résumé," so he sounded it out and spelled it "resimay." I hurried to correct him as quickly as possible!

In the case of "fluxuating," I simply didn't feel motivated enough to note it.

But if a mistake is just an obvious typo that looks like it's a case of fat fingers, I don't know that it necessarily benefits the person to mention it.

(If I really wanted to get on my grammar/punctuation horse I'd be noting posts like Reply #36 in this thread from roadman 65 where it says "Yeah thanks" and pointing out the improper omission of the comma between those two words. But if I were on the receiving end of that kind of comment I might feel that the person making it is being a dick, so I therefore try to refrain from mentioning such things.)

BTW, no doubt anyone who has observed my regular use of the em dash (this thing – ) instead of two hyphens, or the cent sign ¢ instead of "$0.75" or "75c," has figured out that I feel strongly about typography!
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
I have no idea, though, how "lite" became an acceptable way to spell the name of half-fat salad dressings.)

I can't stand those that type 'Coors Lite' and 'Miller Light'. They are not the correct spellings of those beers!

The preferred spelling is 'Water', and 'Water', respectively.

1995hoo

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 10, 2013, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
I have no idea, though, how "lite" became an acceptable way to spell the name of half-fat salad dressings.)

I can't stand those that type 'Coors Lite' and 'Miller Light'. They are not the correct spellings of those beers!

The preferred spelling is 'Water', and 'Water', respectively.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

kphoger

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 10, 2013, 03:52:36 PM
75c

Guilty!  I can just never, ever remember Alt+0162.  However, I don't feel too guilty, since c is the correct abbreviation for the euro cent.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

agentsteel53

that's an insult to water!

that said, Coors Light ain't bad.  Miller is mediocre, and Budweiser is ... uurrrgh!
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US81

Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 12:33:02 AM
It's been three days, and no one's going to point out that fluxuate (as opposed to fluctuate) is not a word?  I guess we're nicer here than on the rest of the internet.

Quote from: Steve on January 06, 2013, 11:13:50 PM

I guessed it must be a British variant (like "connexion") and presumed I was the only one who didn't know this, since... no one was discussing it.  :)

wphiii

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 10, 2013, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on January 10, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
I have no idea, though, how "lite" became an acceptable way to spell the name of half-fat salad dressings.)

I can't stand those that type 'Coors Lite' and 'Miller Light'. They are not the correct spellings of those beers!

The preferred spelling is 'Water', and 'Water', respectively.

Really? I learned it was P-I-S-S. Must be a regional thing.

roadman65

Speaking of typos, did anyone check out the link about the future Garden State Parkway construction projects in the regional threads?   The official NJ Turnpike Authority website spelled  "bridge" as "bride" to report about one of the bridge rehabilitation projects.

The biggest one that I think is spelled wrong, but for effectiveness in advertising, is KOA for Kampgrounds of America.   Then they use  also in their advertising for cabins, I think either Kabins or Kamping Cabins.  I am not sure.

Then the Fisherman's Cove Restaurant that was in Orlando back in the 90's, had "Krazy Coconut Shrimp."
Kwick Stop convenience stores is another.

The biggest one that made it through is  the word "ain't" which was once deemed improper use of grammar is now the norm over the exception. 

Then you have the street talk lingo, like "Da" for "the" like in the neigborhood where many R & B and Rap artists use as well as urban folks now say Da Hood.  Then the recent attention grabber that was never a word, but now is would be "Yo."   "Brotha" for Brother or "Sista" for Sister is another accepted form of improper gramar or "what up" for what's up even though what's up is considered a phrase and not a valid sentence.

The problem is we got so used to it, we consider it the normal way now or not notice it at all.  I feel bad for children in school being corrected for misusing words that are used on TV and by their parents as normal vocabulary.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

SidS1045

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 10, 2013, 10:47:18 AM
I don't always want to be the "spelling Nazi" or the "grammar Nazi."

NO WORDS FOR YOU!!!

Sorry, I couldn't resist...
"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." - Edward R. Murrow

1995hoo

#47
Quote from: kphoger on January 10, 2013, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 10, 2013, 03:52:36 PM
75c

Guilty!  I can just never, ever remember Alt+0162.  However, I don't feel too guilty, since c is the correct abbreviation for the euro cent.

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply I was criticizing anyone for it. I've always found it odd that the cent sign was omitted from computer keyboards, and as a result it's largely disappeared–heck, you can find OOCEA signs in Florida that say things like "PAY TOLL $.75" (the omission of the zero between the dollar sign and the decimal point irks me too).

I'm just picky about my typography.



Quote from: roadman65 on January 11, 2013, 08:02:53 AM
Speaking of typos, did anyone check out the link about the future Garden State Parkway construction projects in the regional threads?   The official NJ Turnpike Authority website spelled  "bridge" as "bride" to report about one of the bridge rehabilitation projects.

The biggest one that I think is spelled wrong, but for effectiveness in advertising, is KOA for Kampgrounds of America.   Then they use  also in their advertising for cabins, I think either Kabins or Kamping Cabins.  I am not sure.

Then the Fisherman's Cove Restaurant that was in Orlando back in the 90's, had "Krazy Coconut Shrimp."
Kwick Stop convenience stores is another.

The biggest one that made it through is  the word "ain't" which was once deemed improper use of grammar is now the norm over the exception. 

Then you have the street talk lingo, like "Da" for "the" like in the neigborhood where many R & B and Rap artists use as well as urban folks now say Da Hood.  Then the recent attention grabber that was never a word, but now is would be "Yo."   "Brotha" for Brother or "Sista" for Sister is another accepted form of improper gramar or "what up" for what's up even though what's up is considered a phrase and not a valid sentence.

The problem is we got so used to it, we consider it the normal way now or not notice it at all.  I feel bad for children in school being corrected for misusing words that are used on TV and by their parents as normal vocabulary.


Another current fad in that vein is the ever-increasing misuse of the word "fail" as a noun, such as the people who say things like, "The condition of the grass at FedEx Field on Sunday was a huge fail." WRONG! There's no such thing as "a fail." The correct word is "failure": "Your English teacher will fail you because of your consistent failure to use proper grammar." I think the real problem is that nowadays a lot of people fail (ha ha) to recognize the difference between fast-moving formats (like chat rooms) and space-limited formats (like SMS or Twitter), on the one hand, and standard correspondence (such as e-mail) or more "conversation-based" (such as this sort of forum, where the post to which you reply won't vanish unless a moderator or the writer deletes it) formats. Certain forms of writing that are technically "incorrect" are perfectly understandable when you're limited to 140 characters or when chat room comments are rocketing past. That sort of thing has been around for years in the form of newspaper headlines, which because of space limitations have always omitted words that would be required in a standard sentence. But back before the advent of SMS and Twitter and the like you wouldn't hear someone having a regular conversation say something like "Griffin surgery reported successful." He'd say something like, "I heard on the radio that Griffin's surgery was successful." Nowadays for some reason some people seem to think that it's acceptable to SPEAK their silly SMS abbreviations, or to do inexplicable things like spelling "just" as "juss" (why the heck would anyone do that????), in standard e-mail.

Maybe I'm a stickler, but some of that comes from recognizing that when you send e-mail to a client it's essentially just like a printed letter with certain formatting differences due to its being electronic (for example, the inside address is omitted because the "To:" field serves the same purpose).
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

deathtopumpkins

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 11, 2013, 10:05:40 AM
Another current fad in that vein is the ever-increasing misuse of the word "fail" as a noun, such as the people who say things like, "The condition of the grass at FedEx Field on Sunday was a huge fail." WRONG! There's no such thing as "a fail." The correct word is "failure": "Your English teacher will fail you because of your consistent failure to use proper grammar." I think the real problem is that nowadays a lot of people fail (ha ha) to recognize the difference between fast-moving formats (like chat rooms) and space-limited formats (like SMS or Twitter), on the one hand, and standard correspondence (such as e-mail) or more "conversation-based" (such as this sort of forum, where the post to which you reply won't vanish unless a moderator or the writer deletes it) formats. Certain forms of writing that are technically "incorrect" are perfectly understandable when you're limited to 140 characters or when chat room comments are rocketing past.

While using text/chat/whatever speak in other contexts is awful for the most part, I use, and I have seen plenty of other people here and elsewhere use things like IMHO and FTFY in posts. Things like this I feel have evolved from being just chat/text/whatever speak to being recognized acronyms.

As for using "fail" as a noun, blame the internet. I don't exactly see it as still being "wrong" though, since the "proper" use of words does change over time. The English language a hundred years ago was significantly different compared to the English language today, so I see things like "fail" just being an example of that continual linguistic evolution.
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