Other roads to make a connection with a freeway

[roadman65]

We have non freeway roads connecting   freeways with other freeways called by us as Breezewoods.  How about situations where a freeway uses another road or street (other than frontage roads) to connect it to the primary road(non freeway)  the exit serves and vice versa.

In Celebration, FL we have FL 417 connected to US 192 via Celebration Avenue where US 192 and FL 417 do not interchange.
In Barrington, NJ you have I-295 Southbound connected to US 30 via Copley Road, and US 30 Westbound connected to both directions of I-295 via Copley Road as well.
In Mount Laurel, NJ you have Southbound I-295 connected to NJ 73 Northbound via Nixon Drive.
In Maple Shade, NJ you have NJ 38 used as connector from Northbound NJ 73 to NJ 41.  Also, NJ 41 Northbound as access from NJ 38 Westbound to NJ 73 Southbound.

I know that there are plenty out there, where an adjacent road is used as a movement to a freeway from an arterial or from the arterial to the freeway.  These are  the some I know of off of my head.

[Alps]

this post hurts my brain

[doorknob60]

In Bend, there is no direct connection between US-97 (basically, but not technically, a freeway) and US-20 east, the main east-west arterial in Bend. You have to use the business loop of 97 for a couple of miles, or exit at somewhere like Hawthorne Ave or Revere Ave and find your way there (but those aren't signed of course). It's quite annoying, but that's the way it is.

[NE2]

So you want all the examples where a sign says 'to'? I'm not going to help.

[nwi_navigator_1181]

I was considering making a thread about instances where you have to use a surface street to make an interstate-to-interstate transition. Since this topic is closely related, I won't waste the space.

Something like this is most prevalent on tollways. Before 2001, drivers looking to enter the Ohio Turnpike from I-77 Northbound had to use State Road 21 to make the link. A direct connection between I-77 and the Turnpike has since been established. In Toledo, surface streets are required (especially U.S. 20) to connect I-475 and the Turnpike. Much closer to home in Chicago, drivers on the inbound Dan Ryan Expressway (I-94) can see signs telling them where to go if they wish to make an "opposite direction" link to the outbound Chicago Skyway (I forget which street is used to make the connection, but the sign is there).

Non-toll example: near the Akron, OH area, going from I-271 north to I-77 south (or inversely, I-77 North to I-271 South) requires using Ohio Route 176 and Brecksville Road to make the connection; those movements are missing when the two interstates cross paths.

[Brandon]

The east end of the current Elgin-O'Hare Expy.  You must make a connection to I-290 using Thorndale Avenue with a signal at IL-53.

Inbound Edens Expy (I-94) to Outbound Kennedy Expy (I-90) and vice versa.  Surface streets must be used to make the connection.

Northbound Tri-State Twy (I-294) to the Inbound Edens Spur (I-94) and vice versa.  Lake-Cook Road must be used between the two all the way to the Edens Expy which leads to the next one...

Inbound Edens Expy (US-41) to the Outbound Edens Spur (I-94) and vice versa.

Inbound Indiana Toll Rd to Outbound Cline Ave at the west/north end of Cline Ave.  Calumet Ave (US-41) must be used between the two.

Outbound Stevenson Expy (I-55) to the Southbound Tri-State Twy (I-294).  LaGrange Rd (US-12/20/45) must be used between the two as there is no ramp at the I-55/I-294 interchange.

Outbound Eisenhower Extension (I-290) to Northbound Tri-State Twy (I-294) west of St Charles Rd.  A section of Lake St (US-20) is used to make the connection.

Inbound Eisenhower Extension to the Northbound Tri-State Twy.  Again, the same section of Lake St is used.

[nwi_navigator_1181]

^Speaking of Cline Avenue, those looking to connect Indiana 912 from end to end must exit to Calumet Avenue, Drive to Indianapolis Boulevard, turn south toward Columbus Drive (U.S. 12), and rejoin Cline Avenue from there (all of this because of the current bridge situation). It may seem funny, but those not too familiar with the area might be using it more than I think (especially if you're jumping from casino to casino).

[Brandon]

^Speaking of Cline Avenue, those looking to connect Indiana 912 from end to end must exit to Calumet Avenue, Drive to Indianapolis Boulevard, turn south toward Columbus Drive (U.S. 12), and rejoin Cline Avenue from there (all of this because of the current bridge situation). It may seem funny, but those not too familiar with the area might be using it more than I think (especially if you're jumping from casino to casino).

And I almost forgot about the other connection with the Indiana Toll Rd that Cline Ave has.  You must exit at Indiana 312 and use the ramps and a surface street to access the ramps for the Toll Rd.  There's a signal there as well.

[sp_redelectric]

Wow...so many examples in Portland alone:

I-5 Exit 308 Marine Drive to Marine Drive eastbound, must use a short stretch of M.L.K. Jr. Boulevard/Oregon 99E to reach Marine Drive

I-5 Exit 300B SB U.S. 26 East/Oregon 99E South, to Oregon 99E you must use Belmont Street prior to reaching 99E; to get to U.S. 26 you must continue south on M.L.K., right on Mill, left on 3rd, continue on Division, right on 11th, continue on Milwaukie before reaching 26.

I-405 Exit 1A NB Naito Parkway - you must use Harbor Drive to reach Naito.

I-5 Exit 299A NB Oregon 43/U.S. 26 East/Macadam Blvd. - no matter what at this exit you're making U-turns.  Although you technically end up on Macadam, it's a stretch that does not serve anything and it's not what most people consider "Macadam" which you must continue north, then effectively U-turn onto Hood Avenue on the opposite side of I-5, returning back to southbound Macadam and Oregon 43.  To get to U.S. 26 you must also drive north on Macadam, U-turn onto Hood, then a second U-Turn involving Whitaker Street and Kelly Avenue to get to 26 east (Ross Island Bridge, Powell Boulevard)

I-5 Exit 297 SB Terwilliger Blvd. - you must turn right on Barbur (Oregon 99W) before reaching Terwilliger.

I-5 Exit 295 SB Capitol Highway - you must turn right on Taylors Ferry Road before reaching Capitol.  The NB exit is named Taylors Ferry Road, but it is a different part of Taylors Ferry Road.

I-5 Exit 293 SB Haines Street - the off-ramp becomes Dartmouth Street; you must turn right onto 68th Avenue to reach Haines Street (which is actually Atlanta Street in Tigard, you must turn right on Atlanta and cross over I-5 before you're really on Haines Street)

This one is no longer, but U.S. 26 Exit 61 for years and years was "Helvetia/Shute Road", and Shute Road was a good mile south of the interchange.  Today it's "Brockwood Parkway/Helvetia" which more accurately reflects the road travelled.

[jp the roadgeek]

A few in CT, and one each to mention in MA and NY:

- The connection from CT 8 S to CT 15 N uses a piece of CT 108.  Furthermore, the connnections from CT 15 N to CT 8 S, and from CT 8 N to CT 15 S are made by using CT 25.
- I 95 S to I-395 N and I 395 S to I-95 N: A congested 2 mile segment of CT 85 that passes a shopping mall
- I-395 S to CT 2 W:West Town St and CT 32.
- The I-91 N to I-84 E and the I-84 W to I-91 S: CT 15 over the Charter Oak Bridge;  there is no direct connection in downtown Hartford unless you use city streets.  Prior to 1989, the I-84 E to I-91 N connection had to be made by using Morgan St. and Columbus Blvd.
-CT 15 and US 7: there is no direct connection from CT 15 S to Super 7 S.  You have to use old route 7.
-CT 15 and I-95: Connection is made by the Milford Parkway, which now is its own freeway with exit numbers.
-CT 15 and CT 40, I-90 and I-391 are really complicated, but the worst of all time was fixed a few years ago: I-84 and I-87 in Newburgh.

[hbelkins]

Wouldn't the intersection of US 20 and US 52/61/151 in Dubuque fit this category?

[Big John]

Wouldn't the intersection of US 20 and US 52/61/151 in Dubuque fit this category?

Tricky at both connections are at-grade intersections while the rest of 61/151 is of freeway.

[KEVIN_224]

- The I-91 N to I-84 E and the I-84 W to I-91 S: CT 15 over the Charter Oak Bridge;  there is no direct connection in downtown Hartford unless you use city streets.  Prior to 1989, the I-84 E to I-91 N connection had to be made by using Morgan St. and Columbus Blvd.

Ah yes! The dreaded Morgan Street off ramp downtown and swing around. One wrong move and you'll end up down Columbus Boulevard, near where WFSB-TV (CBS) channel 3 used to be. 

Also, there's no direct access from I-295 South to I-95/Maine Turnpike North. That requires the use of the Scarborough Connector near the Maine Mall.

[NE2]

Guys. I think he wanted places where a minor surface road connects a freeway to a major surface road. But that's a silly request, since you can just pick any city and find numerous examples.

Also, there's no reasonable non-tourist access from I-95 north to I-295 north. That requires the use of the Scarborough Connector near the Maine Mall.

Fixed for you.

[roadman65]

Guys. I think he wanted places where a minor surface road connects a freeway to a major surface road. But that's a silly request, since you can just pick any city and find numerous examples.

Also, there's no reasonable non-tourist access from I-95 north to I-295 north. That requires the use of the Scarborough Connector near the Maine Mall.

Fixed for you.

That is what makes the topic interesting, is that there are so many of them.  Anyway, although off topic, I do like hearing some of the other many strange connections that are out there.

One other I would like to add, there are plenty of interchanges out there, that do connect a freeway to a at grade road that are not marked.    For example, in Piscataway, NJ there is South Washington Avenue that is an access from I-287 to CR 529 NB that is signed for S. Washington and Dunnellin( no mention of "TO" CR 529") because further on I-287 does intersect with CR 529 proper in a mile.  I guess for short will say those that are short cuts that we, as well as most, use despite no signs.  Even in Orlando area, NE 2 you can vouch for that, there are two ways to get on I-95 NB from FL 528.  In this case both are marked, but one requires you to use a surface road/ Super Two and the other is direct.  If you find these are more rare than the other usual norms.

[hobsini2]

Ok i think I get the question.

I-88 to Eola Rd. - If you are going from/to WB 88, to get to/from Eola, you use Bilter Rd. If you are going from/to EB 88, to get to/from Eola, you use Diehl Rd.

I-88 to Naperville Rd - If you are going from/to WB 88, to get to/from Naperville Rd, you use Freedom Dr and Warrenville Rd.  If you are exiting 88 EB to get to Naperville Rd, you use Freedom Dr and Diehl Rd or Freedom Dr and Warrenville Rd.  If you are entering EB 88, that is direct ramps from Naperville Rd.

[hbelkins]

I think the I-470 and US 250/WV 2 "volleyball" interchange might loosely fit this category.

[1995hoo]

If I'm understanding the question properly, the exit from the eastbound Belt Parkway in Brooklyn that's marked "Knapp St/Sheepshead Bay" (I believe it's Exit 9) puts you onto westbound Emmons Avenue. If you want Knapp Street you have to turn off Emmons. Emmons is by no means a minor or secondary street, though.

[jp the roadgeek]

  Even in Orlando area, NE 2 you can vouch for that, there are two ways to get on I-95 NB from FL 528.  In this case both are marked, but one requires you to use a surface road/ Super Two and the other is direct.  If you find these are more rare than the other usual norms.

Just like there are 2 ways to get onto I-91 South from US 5/CT 15 south in Hartford, and 2 ways to get onto I-384 E from I-84 W in Manchester.  The 91 primary interchange is a direct connection, the secondary involves using the next exit for Airport Rd, but staying to the left on the ramp to enter I-91 S (comes in handy when the primary ramp is backed up).  The primary connection from 84 to 384 is Exit 59, but a secondary connection is the use of the Exit 62/60 c/d road that has a ramp to I-384 east for people leaving the Buckland Hills Mall area.

[pianocello]

In Lansing, MI, Exit 11 is signed for Jolly Road, but it puts you on Dunckel Rd. Jolly is about a half mile to the south.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.686663,-84.507136&spn=0.01918,0.034719&t=m&z=15

[nwi_navigator_1181]

To go more along the lines of the original topic...

To get from Sibley Boulevard (Illinois 83) east to the outbound Bishop Ford Freeway (I-94 East), you have to turn on Michigan City Road, a diagonal side street set off by a traffic light. The ramp proper follows.

See here.

[roadman65]

In Wilson, PA the EB ramp from US 22 to PA 248 uses either 25th Street (however signed along with PA 248 on guide sign) or Wood Avenue (depending on which direction of PA 248 you want to access.

[kphoger]

So you want all the examples where a sign says 'to'? I'm not going to help.

this post hurts my brain

Amen!   

[PHLBOS]

Some other examples:

Auburn, MA - Exit 8 off I-290 westbound (for MA 12 South, Oxford), the exit ramp places one on Oxford Street.  From that point, one needs to turn left and follow Oxford St. for a short distance to MA 12 (southbridge St.).

Great Valley (East Whiteland Twp, Chester County), PA - US 202/PA 29 interchange. - With the exception of the ramp from US 202 North to PA 29 South, all other ramps to/from these routes involve using other streets for connections.

West Conshohocken, (Montgomery County) PA - I-76/476/PA 23 interchange - in order to access PA 23 (for Conshohocken) from either I-76 (Exit 332 off I-76 West/Exit 331B off I-76 East) or I-476 (Exit 16A off I-476 North/Exit 16(B) off I-476 South), one needs to use Matsonford Road as a link.

Plymouth Meeting, (Montgomery County) PA - Exit 18B off I-476 North (for Ridge Pike West, Norristown), the exit ramp places one on Chemical Road.  One needs to turn Right & follow Chemical Road to a traffic light at Ridge Ave.

Plymouth Meeting, PA - Exit 19 off I-476 North (for Germantown Pike East, Plymouth Meeting), the exit ramp also places one on Chemical Road to use as a means to get to Germantown Pike.

Philadelphia, PA - Exit 348 off I-76 West (TO PA 291), granted this one could be argued given its past route designation history; but at present and as currently signed, this ramp dumps one on Penrose Ave., which one follows to connect w/PA 291 (Platt Bridge for West, 26th St. for East).  Conversely, in order for one to get on I-76 East from PA 291 East, one uses the same stretch of Penrose Ave.

Philadelphia, PA - I-676/US 30/PA 611 (Broad St.) - ramp from I-676 West places one on 15th Street.  Access to PA 611/Broad St. is obtained by turning left onto local Vine St.  From PA 611/Broad St. to I-676 West, one needs to use local Vine St. to 16th St. in order to pick up the I-676 West ramp.

[ftballfan]

I-96 Exit 23: The primary road is 16th Ave, yet I-96 (in both directions) has exits onto side streets that lead to 16th. For example, the WB ramps use Franklin St as a connection and the EB ramps use Jackson St (the EB off-ramp turns into Washington St at a church entrance just as one gets off I-96).

I-96 Exit 30: The EB off-ramp feeds to 3 Mile Rd instead of Alpine Ave.

US-131 Exit 88: The SB ramps come off of/on to Turner Ave instead of Ann St.

I-96 Exit 16: The WB on-ramp is off of Randall St instead of 68th Ave.

I-96 Exit 4: The WB ramps come off of/on to Farr Rd instead of Airline Rd.

I-96 Exit 26: The EB off-ramp feeds to 3 Mile Rd instead of Fruit Ridge Ave.